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#1 Posted on 8.11.02 2349.57
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1) Eddie Guerrero
2) Chris Benoit
3) Yuki Ishikawa
4) Genichiro Tenyru
5) Jushin Lyger
6) El Hijo del Santo
7) Kurt Angle
8) Rey Misterio Jr.
9) American Dragon
10) Naohiro Hoshikawa
11) Satoshi Kojima
12) Dick Togo
13) Osamu Nishimura
14) Shocker
15) Low-Ki'
16) Rey Bucanero
17) Shinjiro Ohtani
18) Blue Panther
19) Masato Tanaka
20) Tiger Mask IV
21) Doug Williams
22) Ultimo Guerrero
23) Taiyo Kea
24) Masayuki Naruse
25) SUWA
26) Fenix (Ray Gonzalez)
27) Chris Hero
28) Katsumi Usuda
29) Yuji Nagata
30) Shinya Hashimoto
31) La Parka
32) Nicho el Millonario
33) Koji Kanemoto
34) Kenichiro Arai
35) Carl Contini (Carl Malenko)
36) Jamie Knoble
37) Tarzan Boy
38) Chavo Guerrero Jr.
39) Dr. Wagner Jr.
40) Takashi Sasaki
41) Homicide (JAPW)
42) Masaaki Mochizuki
43) Takehiro Murahama
44) Wataru Inoue
45) Negro Casas
46) Jun Akiyama
47) Taka Michinoku
48) Daisuke Ikeda
49) El Satanico
50) Tsuyoshi Kikuchi
51) Ian Rotten
52) Christopher Daniels (Curry Man)
53) Spanky
54) Zumbido
55) Olimpico
56) Colt Cabana
57) Minoru Tanaka (Heat)
58) CM Punk
59) Kaz Hayashi
60) Tony Kozina
61) Yoshinobu Kanemaru
62) Virus
63) Ikuto Hidaka
64) El Dandy
65) Steve Corino
66) Gedo
67) Susumu Yokosuka
68) Negro Navarro
69) Mitsuharu Misawa
70) Genki Horiguchi
71) Asian Cougar
72) Mascara Magica
73) Kenta Kobashi
74) Kohei Sato
75) Brock Lesnar
76) Onryo
77) Preston Quinn
78) Hirotaka Yokoi
79) Atlantis
80) El Samurai
81) K-NESS (Darkness Dragon)
82) Hideki Nishida (Hayate)
83) Goldust
84) Men's Teioh
85) Ryo Saito
86) Vader
87) CW Anderson
88) Takeshi Morishima
89) Richard Slinger
90) Edge
91) Chris Jericho
92) Super Dragon
93) Chris Hamrick
94) Mike Modest
95) Reckless Youth
96) Red
97) Zach Lee (Cham Pain)
98) Johnny Smith
99) Hurricane
100) Felino
101) Black Tiger (Silver King)
102) Super Delfin
103) Yoshihiro Tajiri
104) Super Shisa
105) Tony Rivera
106) CIMA
107) Katsushi Takemura
108) Villano IV
109) Masahito Kakihara
110) Villano V
111) Makoto Hashi
112) Tarek the Great
113) Booker T
114) El Pantera
115) Black Warrior
116) Bull Pain
117) Masa Fuchi
118) Emilio Charles Jr.
119) Matt Hardy
120) Heavy Metal
121) Robert Thompson
122) Wataru Sakata
123) Great Sasuke
124) Xavier
125) Scorpio (2 Cold Scorpio)
126) Masahiro Chono
127) Mike Quackenbush
128) Villano III
129) Mephisto
130) Daisuke Sekimoto
131) Nobutaka Araya
132) Spike Dudley
133) Takeshi Rikio
134) El Hijo del Perro Aguayo
135) Averno
136) Tomohiro Ishii
137) Sangre Azteca
138) Super Boy (Hayashi Rice Man)
139) MIKAMI
140) Akira Taue
141) Dr. Cerebro
142) William Regal
143) Apolo Dantes
144) Safari
145) Frank Parker
146) Yoshinari Ogawa
147) Paul London
148) Kazunari Murakami
149) Apache
150) Don Fuji
151) Bestia Salvaje
152) Mr. Niebla
153) Gran Hamada
154) Hiroyoshi Tenzan
155) Milano Collection A.T.
156) Micke Segura
157) Koki Kitahara
158) Scorpio Jr.
159) Syxx-Pac
160) Chris Steel
161) James Mason
162) B-Boy
163) A.J. Styles
164) Dragon Kid
165) Jerry Lynn
166) Jado
167) Dr. X
168) Donovan Morgan
169) KENTA
170) Pescatore Yagi
171) Roger Anderson
172) Christian
173) Kendo Ka Shin
174) Jodie Fleish
175) Ace Steel
176) Takuma Sano
177) BJ Whitmer
178) Arkangel del la Morte
179) Dixie
180) Necro Butcher
181) Doug Basham (Machine)
182) Vinny Massaro
183) Takao Omori
184) Bobby Quance
185) Lizmark Jr.
186) Shinya Makabe
187) Hector Garza
188) Matt Stryker
189) Samoa Joe
190) Hisakatsu Oya
191) Nick Dinsmore
192) Mike Kruel
193) Lance Cade
194) Ryuji Hijikata
195) Scott Powers
196) Chuck Palumbo
197) Anthony W Mori
198) Manabu Nakanishi
199) Rising Son
200) Raven
201) Mafia
202) Akitoshi Saito
203) Nobukazu Hirai
204) TARO
205) Monsta Mack
206) Billy Kidman
207) Jimmy Yang
208) Shannon Moore
209) Solar I
210) Takamichi Iwasa
211) Hombre Sin Nombre
212) Slash (Wolfie D)
213) Black Buffalo
214) 2 Tuff Tony
215) Abdullah Jr. Kobayashi
216) Corporal Robinson
217) Gran Naniwa
218) Ultimo Vampiro
219) Juventud Guerrera
220) James Storm
221) Shirley Doe
222) Jonny Storm
223) Takashi Iizuka
224) Adam Booker
225) Minoru Fujita
226) Pinoy Boy
227) Oriental
228) Chad Collyer (Metal Master)
229) James Maritato
230) Latin Lover
231) Dark Guerrera (NOZAWA)
232) Damian 666
233) Phillip J. Fukumasa
234) Jay Briscoe
235) Qeenan Creed
236) Jason Dukes
237) Dos Caras
238) David Young
239) Masao Orihara
240) Universo 2000
241) Tsubasa
242) Hiroshi Watanabe
243) Fuerza Guerrera
244) Tigre Blanco
245) Kuroge Waguta (Yasuka)
246) Hiroshi Hase
247) Robbie Brookside
248) Masada
249) Takashi Sugiura
250) Pentagon
251) Jacey North
252) George Hines
253) Ricky Reyes
254) Brett Como (Black Dragon)
255) Trevor Rhodes (Stan Dupp)
256) Kengo Mashimo
257) Billy Fives
258) Jeremy Lopez
259) Mascara Ano Dos Mil
260) Jardi Frantz
261) Yukihide Ueno
262) Fidel Sierra
263) Bombero Infernal
264) Super Hentai
265) Lance Storm
266) Ryuji Ito
267) Chris Candido
268) Violencia
269) Flash Flanagan (Kobain)
270) Tommy Dreamer
271) Elix Skipper
272) Shunme Matsusaki
273) Masaro Toi
274) Vampiro
275) Cassidy O'Reily
276) Mr. Mexico
277) Chris Michaels
278) YOSSINO
279) Billy Kim
280) Mitsuya Nagai
281) Yutaka Yoshie
282) Kinya Owanagi
283) Bas Rutten
284) Volador Jr. (Komanchi)
285) Super Crazy
286) GENTARO
287) Hideki Hosaka
288) Devon Storm (Crowbar)
289) Alan Stone
290) Brother Yashiini
291) Junji Hirata (Makai Mask #1)
292) Ricky Marvin
293) Tetsuhiro Kuroda
294) Chris Stone
295) Dino Bambino
296) Mosco de la Merced
297) Kazuya Yuasu
298) Shadow WX
299) Mr. Condor
300) Keiji Mutoh
301) Nick Mondo
302) Hooligan
303) William Wealth III
304) Ryuji Yamakawa
305) Superstar Steve
306) Caprice Coleman
307) Kentaro Shiga
308) Kazunori Yoshida
309) Kintaro Kanemura
310) Yoji Anjoh
311) Joey Matthews
312) Mark Brisco
313) Chris Nelson
314) Mitch Ryder
315) Marabunta
316) Gemini Kid
317) Angel Mortal
318) Otto Schwanz
319) Billy Ken Kid
320) Halcon Negro
321) Super Porky
322) D'Lo Brown
323) AAA Mascara Sagrada
324) Oscar Sevilla
325) Mr. Excitement
326) Ricky Santana
327) Mitsunobu Kikuzawa
328) Arashi
329) Brad Hunter
330) Nitro
331) Winger
332) Joel Maximo
333) Jason Cross
334) Sean Hill
335) Dos Caras, Jr.
336) Dylan Night
337) Jose Maximo
338) Jeff Hardy
339) Brazo de Platino
340) Stryker
341) Don Montoya
342) Blue Wolf
343) Tracey Smothers
344) Brazo de Plata
345) Pimpinela Escarlata
346) Shiego Okamura
347) Dan Devine
348) Brazo de Oro
349) Matt Murphy
350) Slim J
351) Chi Chi Cruz
352) Adam Jacobs
353) Black Dragon (IWRG)
354) Rocky Reynolds
355) Quiet Storm
356) Danny Dominion
357) Paramedico
358) Daioh QUALLT
359) Yoshito Sasaki
360) Disco Machine
361) Hiro Saito
362) Jim Steele
363) Sho Funaki
364) Rick Michaels
365) Austin Aries
366) Ron Killings
367) Dr Heresy
368) Sabu
369) Ric Flair
370) Tony Mamaluke
371) Rico
372) Rocky Romero
373) Chocoball Mukai
374) Triple H
375) Bruce (Alan Funk)
376) Buh Buh Ray Dudley
377) Insane Dragon
378) Crash Holly
379) Jay Lethal
380) Flash Barker
381) El Hijo Del Diablo
382) Shelton Benjamin
383) Kuishinbo Kamen
384) Rick Fuller
385) Yuto Aijima
386) Justin Credible
387) Shark Boy
388) Ghost Shadow
389) Berlinetta Boxer
390) Mikey Henderson
391) Adam Flash
392) Sonny Siaki
393) John Cena
394) Bob Evans
395) James Choi
396) Yutaka Fukude
397) Justice Pain
398) EZ Money
399) Jerry Lawler
400) Bison Smith
401) Kid Krazy (El Tornado)
402) Tony Devito
403) Azrael (Jersey)
404) Frankie Kazarian
405) Raimu Michima
406) Spider Nate Webb
407) Scoot Andrews
408) Tomoaki Honma
409) Lazz
410) Kengo Takai
411) Brandon Phoenix
412) Mr. Gannosuke
413) Magnum Tokyo
414) Gary Steele
415) Rikishi
416) Tony Stradlin
417) Mikael Yamaha
418) Tanomusaku Toba
419) Bobby Rude
420) Kazushi Miyamoto
421) Cash Flo
422) Todd Sexton
423) Hurricane Castillo
424) Magnus Maximus
425) Naoshi Sano
426) Showa
427) Corey Edsel
428) Al Snow
429) Frankie Armadillo
430) Blind Rage
431) Sanjay Dutt
432) Pete Madden
433) Jimmy Rave
434) Kamikaze
435) Big Vito
436) Terry Funk
437) Elax the Exploited Child
438) Jeff Jarrett
439) Gabriel (Lost Boyz)
440) Shane
441) Deranged (Jersey)
442) Condotti Shuji
443) Hotstuff Hernandez
444) Hebikage
445) Chase Stevens
446) Maverick Wild
447) Reggatone #2
448) Hidoh
449) Yuki Nishino
450) Scotty Mckeever
451) Johnny Kashmere
452) MA-G-MA
453) Reggatone #1
454) Alex Arion
455) TARU
456) Ron Simmons
457) Prince Nana
458) Navajo Warrior
459) Corey James
460) Super Uchu Power
461) Cosmic Soldier
462) Stevie Richards
463) Tiger's Mask
464) Azteca
465) Race Steele
466) Jinsei Shinzaki
467) Poison Sawada Julie
468) Malice
469) X #2 (K-Dojo)
470) Adam Gooch
471) AAA Psychosis
472) Miracle Man
473) Devil Bhudakhan
474) Vic Grimes
475) Boogalou
476) Mace Mendoza
477) Johnny Curtis
478) Mister Zero
479) Mitch Page
480) Buff E
481) Damien Dragon
482) Suba
483) Trent Acid
484) EC Negro
485) Mr. X (K-Dojo)
486) Tortuger
487) Hardcore Craig
488) Rob Van Dam
489) Tsubo Genjin
490) Dewey Cheatum
491) George South
492) Henry III Sugawara
493) Gamma
494) Bunkhouse Buck (Jimmy Golden)
495) Iceberg
496) Idol X
497) KC Blade
498) Damien Steele
499) Osamu Tachihikari
500) Don Arakawa
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#2 Posted on 8.11.02 2355.41
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Ah, the list that spawns much hatred and vemon filled posts on wrestling boards all over the internet! Quick question for you Dean, if the Rock was still active, where would you place him? I know it would depend on how well he wrestled after August (which he didn't), but do you have any idea where he'd go?
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#3 Posted on 8.11.02 2356.20
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I dunno how Edge can have about 5 North American match of the year candidates in the time period and be that low. Guerrero and Angle weren't wrestling themselves out there, you know. Especially when Mysterio gets such a high spot.
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#4 Posted on 8.11.02 2358.47
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    Originally posted by Mr. Cactuar
    Ah, the list that spawns much hatred and vemon filled posts on wrestling boards all over the internet! Quick question for you Dean, if the Rock was still active, where would you place him? I know it would depend on how well he wrestled after August (which he didn't), but do you have any idea where he'd go?

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DR:I'd have him around 70 if he had a couple matches as good as the one against Lesnar and the tag matches he was in. He was in the zone. I married him this time when he was active if I remember correctly.

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#5 Posted on 9.11.02 0000.08
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4 WWE wrestlers in the top 10! Holy shit! And Jaime Knoble and Brock Lesnar get the proper love they deserve! BEST 500 EVAR!!!!

(edited by Underwater on 9.11.02 0100)
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#6 Posted on 9.11.02 0003.44
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DR:I'd have him around 70 if he had a couple matches as good as the one against Lesnar and the tag matches he was in. He was in the zone. I married him this time when he was active if I remember correctly.

DEAN.



You married him? Wow, I didn't know that!
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#7 Posted on 9.11.02 0011.00
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I don't get how Goldust can be at 70 and Edge at 90. Edge spends the year rocking the house and Goldust, while admittedly very amusing to watch in his skits, has one good match against Rob Van Dam and then WHOOOOSH let's not try to pretend that the Goldust/Booker tag team has had a streak of good matches or anything, huh?
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#8 Posted on 9.11.02 0015.53
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I don't get how Goldust can be at 70 and Edge at 90.

I dunno, for me, it's like: Goldust is far surpassing expectations, while Edge just isn't living up to his potential.

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#9 Posted on 9.11.02 0019.48
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    Originally posted by godking
    I don't get how Goldust can be at 70 and Edge at 90. Edge spends the year rocking the house and Goldust, while admittedly very amusing to watch in his skits, has one good match against Rob Van Dam and then WHOOOOSH let's not try to pretend that the Goldust/Booker tag team has had a streak of good matches or anything, huh?


The DVDVR crew has pretty openly criticized Edge's offense as being really bad, which is why he got a low ranking. And really, if you watch some of Goldust's matches, he is a really fun worker who busts his ass. He's sorta the hidden treasure of the Raw roster.
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#10 Posted on 9.11.02 0023.26
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What more can Edge do? Name the last bad Edge match you've seen.
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#11 Posted on 9.11.02 0028.19
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    Originally posted by fuelinjected
    What more can Edge do? Name the last bad Edge match you've seen.

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DR: He's busting ass to make it to 90. his selling makes up for his complete lack of offense. To get higher, he would have to be able to appear to inflict some sort of damage. Top hundred in the world says that he isn't getting smoked by the top ten in the world wrestlers he's in with.

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#12 Posted on 9.11.02 0154.46
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I'm surprised AL WILSON~! septigerian lover and inspiration to Dean because he can still feel the love of a woman as young & hot as Dawn Marie didn't make the list. I know he's never worked a match, but I would think inspiring Dean the way Al does would get a ranking at about 450 or so.


(edited by joecollins on 9.11.02 0255)
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#13 Posted on 9.11.02 0206.49
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I know you guys don't really like him, but have Jerry Lawler and Al Snow really done anything to deserve the spot above Van Dam?

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#14 Posted on 9.11.02 0310.28
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Once again the list is sh|+. Aside from the top choice everything else is a load of crap. RVD at 488. Yeah sure. Ron Killings at 366. Yeah sure. While Goldust comes in at 83. I think they purposely make this list a pile of bullsh|+ to stir up controversy.
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#15 Posted on 9.11.02 0600.17
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Dammit Joe, you stole my joke!


As for the 500, well, I was a little upset tha Poison Swada Julie only made no. 467. THEN, I realised I didn't know who the Hell Poison Sawada Julie WAS, and I kinda perked up. Although I really do have to question the low ranking of Edge.

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#16 Posted on 9.11.02 0853.12
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    Originally posted by oldschoolhero
    Dammit Joe, you stole my joke!


    As for the 500, well, I was a little upset tha Poison Swada Julie only made no. 467. THEN, I realised I didn't know who the Hell Poison Sawada Julie WAS, and I kinda perked up. Although I really do have to question the low ranking of Edge.




DR: Poison Sawada JULIE is the wrestler from Dynamic Dream Team that used to be just Poison Sawada, but who has kidnapped by aliens and transformed into the androgenous hypnotist that he is today. And people say the Japanese don't do Sports Entertainment.

DEAN.
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#17 Posted on 9.11.02 1044.03
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I'll have to board the "Edge got shafted" bandwagon too. Plus, also throw in Tajiri into the mix. He's looked every bit as impressive as Chavo during his (punishment/unusefulness) time on Velocity. But hey, Goldust is in the top 100, so I'm happy.
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#18 Posted on 9.11.02 1245.40
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75. Brock Lesnar

This does my heart good, seeing Brock so high up on the list. He's been awesome and his progress as a worker and seller has been incredible.
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#19 Posted on 9.11.02 1450.31
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The thread at DVDVR is too massive, so I'm putting my thoughts here.

1) Eddie Guerrero
I'm a bit iffy here. His match with Flair was really underwhelming to me. I'd have given the top spot to Angle.
2) Chris Benoit
Nothing wrong here.
4) Genichiro Tenyru
See what happens when you do multiple MOTYCs in your 50s? Flair wishes he had Tenryu's longevity.
7) Kurt Angle
Should've been #1.
8) Rey Misterio Jr.
Eh, too high.
9) American Dragon
10) Naohiro Hoshikawa
11) Satoshi Kojima
12) Dick Togo
13) Osamu Nishimura
All acceptable. I wish Kojima was higher, but I know KOJI-v-MUTA hurt him.
15) Low-Ki'
And Ki's overrating continues.
17) Shinjiro Ohtani
19) Masato Tanaka
Acceptable.
21) Doug Williams
Need Williams tape now.
23) Taiyo Kea
Always seemed a bit sloppy to me.
73) Kenta Kobashi
With the knees of an 80 year old. Jeez. Kobashi = God
83) Goldust
Did someone tell Dustin its '93 again and he has to justify his push? Jeez, 'Dust has been the sole highlight of Raw when I still watched it.
96) Red
Should be much lower. He's not a wrestler, he's a gymnast. One should be able to sell to make the Top 100.
101) Black Tiger (Silver King)
What the hell happened? Did he lose his motivation after Eddy left? I guess BT/Sammy-v-TM3/TM4 must've hurt him a lot.
119) Matt Hardy
Acceptable
189) Samoa Joe
Should be top 100 easy. Best Indy Heavyweight, period.
267) Chris Candido
Barely active. Shouldn't be ranked.
374) Triple H
375) Bruce (Alan Funk)
376) Buh Buh Ray Dudley
Bubba Ray should be higher.
400) Bison Smith
I seem to recall everybody hating this guy when he worked under a mask. I don't understand what gets him love now.
458) Navajo Warrior
I believe he's injured.
498) Damien Steele
If this is the same Steele that was XPW champ, I believe he's retired.
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#20 Posted on 9.11.02 1758.16
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1) Eddie Guerrero
2) Chris Benoit
7) Kurt Angle
8) Rey Misterio Jr.

Awesome. Kurt's my personal choice because he's been the most versatile, working different kinds of matches against Edge, Benoit and Misterio. But I understand the reasons, the little selling stuff that Rippa mentioned and he still doesn't throw a good punch.

75) Lesnar

He wasn't even on the other lists, I'm pretty sure. Was his OVW work really that different from his WWE work?

83) Goldust

Nuh uh. I still don't know where the Goldust love is coming from. Where are the good matches? What does he have besides his Scot Hall style punch?

90) Edge

Most of the people here think he got screwed, I saw a couple people over at the DVDVR board saying he was overrated because he kept getting carried in matches with four of the top ten wrasslers. I can see both sides of the coin, this spot seems about right. If it were about being in good matches instead of actually being responsible for them, he'd be top 10. But who has he carried? And the stuff he did against the big three heels was definitely less impressive than what Rey did, or what they did against each other.

103) Yoshihiro Tajiri

No way. Tons of good stuff on Velocity during the time period, especially the 12 minute match against Kidman. Was doing all kinds of freaky things to Shane Helms' leg a couple weeks ago. Just really smooth in the ring, his kicks are better than Goldust's punches, he bumps, he does cool mat stuff, what more could you ask for?

119) Matt Hardy

I think he's better than Goldust and Edge, but until he stops being the rag doll for whoever's challenging Lesnar this week, he won't get much of a chance to show it.

206) Billy Kidman

How'd he drop about 100 spots from the last time? I don't know most of the guys in this range so I can't beef with the particular spot, but was he really that much worse these last six months than the period before that?

338) Jeff Hardy

Should be off the list. Seriously, his offense takes a billion years to set up, and on the occasion that he manages to actually hit it, looks totally weak and sloppy. His matches have no point except for him and his opponent hitting their trademark spots, and those are usually blown.

488) Rob Van Dam

Someone on this forum once said RVD looks more like he's trying to look good than he's trying to win a match, that about sums it up for me. Even if his selling was consistent, it would still look like crap because he's no good at pretending to be hurt.
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