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#1 Posted on 18.10.02 0708.53
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Are the Bungles so bad that they have violated their lease ? Some people in the local government think so - read on.....

CINCINNATI -- The Cincinnati Bengals have been so bad this season that government officials are wondering if they have violated their agreement to play in Paul Brown Stadium.


Hamilton County's three commissioners want to know if the Bengals' failure to field a competitive team violates the lease. The commissioners unanimously voted Wednesday to ask county prosecutor Michael Allen for a legal opinion on the subject.


The Bengals are 0-6 this season and 10-28 since moving into the stadium, a taxpayer-financed, county-owned facility that opened in September 2000. They have sold out just seven of 19 home games.


Voters in 1996 approved a half-cent increase in the county's sales tax to generate money to build new stadiums for both the Bengals and baseball's Cincinnati Reds. The Reds' new stadium is to open next April.


Allen's office had not formally received the commissioners' request on Thursday. The commissioners are asking for a review of the lease and a legal opinion whether it's possible to sue the Bengals over the lease.


Commissioner Todd Portune referred to a sentence in the lease that says the sales tax increase for the stadiums was needed to keep competitive and viable major league football and baseball teams in Cincinnati.


"Has the long losing record of poor performances on the field risen to violate the express or implied conditions of the agreement?'' Portune said.


Bengals spokesman Jack Brennan declined to respond Thursday.
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#2 Posted on 18.10.02 0724.42
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"Keep" competitive football in Cincinnati. The Bengals haven't been competative since what, 1990 or 1991?
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#3 Posted on 18.10.02 0849.19
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Curse of Bo Jackson.
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#4 Posted on 18.10.02 0909.33
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I would love to see a lawsuit happen. The cities spend enough taxpayer dollars for these new stadiums to increase the owners net worth.

Maybe it would force other pathetic teams in other sports (Phillies) to you know, actually try to be competitive.

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#5 Posted on 18.10.02 0913.52
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    Originally posted by evilwaldo
    I would love to see a lawsuit happen. The cities spend enough taxpayer dollars for these new stadiums to increase the owners net worth.

    Maybe it would force other pathetic teams in other sports (Phillies) to you know, actually try to be competitive.







Phillies were in the race until the last week in the 2001 season and were around .500 this season. Bungles are a .300 team for a decade.
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#6 Posted on 18.10.02 1115.14
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    Originally posted by redsoxnation

      Originally posted by evilwaldo
      I would love to see a lawsuit happen. The cities spend enough taxpayer dollars for these new stadiums to increase the owners net worth.

      Maybe it would force other pathetic teams in other sports (Phillies) to you know, actually try to be competitive.







    Phillies were in the race until the last week in the 2001 season and were around .500 this season. Bungles are a .300 team for a decade.



Check this out:

http://www.thebaseballpage.com/stats/alltime_wl_nl.htm

and

http://www.mcubed.net/mlb/phi.htm (scroll down to year by year)

14 sub-.500 seasons in 16 years makes the Phillies the Bengals of baseball.

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#7 Posted on 18.10.02 1302.34
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I don't understand why you say the Benglas haven't TRIED to be competitive. The Brown's have gone out of their way to get players like Dillon, Warrick, Justin Smith and Takeo Spikes. Hell, they're spending the money! They TRIED to get Beldsoe, they tried to get other QB's, and guess what? They wouldn't come. What do you do when your team is so bad people refuse to play? I'll bet if they get first round draft pick it'll be a while before we see the guy even suit up.

It's definitely not a lack or trying, granted, I think firing Lebeau would be a step in the right direction.
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#8 Posted on 18.10.02 1410.33
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    Originally posted by WhoBettahThanDeion
    I don't understand why you say the Benglas haven't TRIED to be competitive. The Brown's have gone out of their way to get players like Dillon, Warrick, Justin Smith and Takeo Spikes. Hell, they're spending the money! They TRIED to get Beldsoe, they tried to get other QB's, and guess what? They wouldn't come. What do you do when your team is so bad people refuse to play? I'll bet if they get first round draft pick it'll be a while before we see the guy even suit up.

    It's definitely not a lack or trying, granted, I think firing Lebeau would be a step in the right direction.





Bledsoe was NOT a free agent, the Patriots traded him. Unless Bledsoe wanted to retire and not receive anymore of his 100 million dollar pact, he would have gone to Cinci.
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#9 Posted on 18.10.02 1450.45
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hahahahahaha. HAHAHAHAHAHA.
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#10 Posted on 18.10.02 1517.13
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    Originally posted by redsoxnation

      Originally posted by WhoBettahThanDeion
      I don't understand why you say the Benglas haven't TRIED to be competitive. The Brown's have gone out of their way to get players like Dillon, Warrick, Justin Smith and Takeo Spikes. Hell, they're spending the money! They TRIED to get Beldsoe, they tried to get other QB's, and guess what? They wouldn't come. What do you do when your team is so bad people refuse to play? I'll bet if they get first round draft pick it'll be a while before we see the guy even suit up.

      It's definitely not a lack or trying, granted, I think firing Lebeau would be a step in the right direction.





    Bledsoe was NOT a free agent, the Patriots traded him. Unless Bledsoe wanted to retire and not receive anymore of his 100 million dollar pact, he would have gone to Cinci.



Would you trade Brian Simmons and a first round draft pick for someone who MIGHT come play for you?
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#11 Posted on 18.10.02 1538.15
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I know that if I was drafted by the Bungles...I would seriously be checking out the opportunities in the CFL. Better to go there for a year or two and sit out the period Cincy owned my rights and then come back that put up with that nonsense...
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#12 Posted on 18.10.02 1544.53
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    Originally posted by BobHollySTILLRules

      Originally posted by redsoxnation

        Originally posted by WhoBettahThanDeion
        I don't understand why you say the Benglas haven't TRIED to be competitive. The Brown's have gone out of their way to get players like Dillon, Warrick, Justin Smith and Takeo Spikes. Hell, they're spending the money! They TRIED to get Beldsoe, they tried to get other QB's, and guess what? They wouldn't come. What do you do when your team is so bad people refuse to play? I'll bet if they get first round draft pick it'll be a while before we see the guy even suit up.

        It's definitely not a lack or trying, granted, I think firing Lebeau would be a step in the right direction.





      Bledsoe was NOT a free agent, the Patriots traded him. Unless Bledsoe wanted to retire and not receive anymore of his 100 million dollar pact, he would have gone to Cinci.



    Would you trade Brian Simmons and a first round draft pick for someone who MIGHT come play for you?






I dont think Nancy or his wife were going to pass up 100 mil. If he went to the Pathetics in their dark days, he would go to Cinci, as long as he was paid.
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#13 Posted on 18.10.02 1553.24
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    Originally posted by WhoBettahThanDeion
    I don't understand why you say the Benglas haven't TRIED to be competitive. The Brown's have gone out of their way to get players like Dillon, Warrick, Justin Smith and Takeo Spikes. Hell, they're spending the money! They TRIED to get Beldsoe, they tried to get other QB's, and guess what? They wouldn't come. What do you do when your team is so bad people refuse to play? I'll bet if they get first round draft pick it'll be a while before we see the guy even suit up.

    It's definitely not a lack or trying, granted, I think firing Lebeau would be a step in the right direction.




Dude We been over this before. The Bengals are a half ass nickel and dime organization. The ownership has no earthly idea how to run a football franchise. They USED to know. But somehow they forgot. Yeah theyve brough in those players you mentioned, but theyve also drafted guys like Akili Smith, and Dan Wilkinson. And they seem kike they refuse to hire a decent Coach.Whay arent THEY after Marvin Lewis? Or Bill Parcels? Why does Paul Brown continue to run that team like a Pee Wee league team?
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#14 Posted on 18.10.02 1937.27
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I agree with most of what you said, but drafting Dan Wilkinson and Akili Smith isn't fair. Are you going to tell me that the next 5 teams behind them wouldn't have picked those guys to? I mean really. Akili Smith was highly touted, the Browns almost took him #1 and Dan Wilkinson was supposed to be the next great defensive tackle. You can't rip the fact that they drafted them...maybe you can rip the way they developed them, but not the fact that they drafted them.
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#15 Posted on 19.10.02 0450.48
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    Originally posted by BobHollySTILLRules
    I agree with most of what you said, but drafting Dan Wilkinson and Akili Smith isn't fair. Are you going to tell me that the next 5 teams behind them wouldn't have picked those guys to? I mean really. Akili Smith was highly touted, the Browns almost took him #1 and Dan Wilkinson was supposed to be the next great defensive tackle. You can't rip the fact that they drafted them...maybe you can rip the way they developed them, but not the fact that they drafted them.



Good Point, Bob. That is true. But how sad is it that the Bengals have had a top five pick for 12 years straight and have nothing to show for except a pissed off Corey Dillon?
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#16 Posted on 19.10.02 0732.45
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    Originally posted by rockdotcom_2.0

      Originally posted by BobHollySTILLRules
      I agree with most of what you said, but drafting Dan Wilkinson and Akili Smith isn't fair. Are you going to tell me that the next 5 teams behind them wouldn't have picked those guys to? I mean really. Akili Smith was highly touted, the Browns almost took him #1 and Dan Wilkinson was supposed to be the next great defensive tackle. You can't rip the fact that they drafted them...maybe you can rip the way they developed them, but not the fact that they drafted them.



    Good Point, Bob. That is true. But how sad is it that the Bengals have had a top five pick for 12 years straight and have nothing to show for except a pissed off Corey Dillon?



And they got Corey in the 2nd round, too.
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#17 Posted on 19.10.02 1226.42
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This is all I have left to say on this subject. Yes, we all know the Bengals suck. No secret there.

BUT, it's a sad state of affairs when someone can sue a professional football team for NOT winning. Period. I don't care if they went twenty years without a win, it's not right. It shows our justice system is a being misused somewhere. Why not sue some REAL criminals, some REAL wrongdoers.

An owner moving a team to a city that cares, or whatever isn't NEARLY as bad as someone trying to sue someone else for not winning in what is supposed to be a competitive sport.
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#18 Posted on 19.10.02 1356.53
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While I agree that there is way too much litigation around here, i think its actually funny that the taxpayers want a little payback. All these sports teams cry about wanting new stadiums and arenas to stay competitive and blah blah. So taxpayers vote to pay taxes to build the multi million dollar palaces, instead of improving roads or schools. Im glad for once that someone is attempting to hold a half ass ownership groups feet to the fire. I say sue em all, the Tampa Bay Devil rays organization oughta be next.
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#19 Posted on 23.10.02 0018.15
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    Check this out:

    http://www.thebaseballpage.com/stats/alltime_wl_nl.htm

    and

    http://www.mcubed.net/mlb/phi.htm (scroll down to year by year)

    14 sub-.500 seasons in 16 years makes the Phillies the Bengals of baseball.


Well, keep in mind that in one of those over-500 years, the Phils made the World Series...and might've won had Joe Carter not BROKE YOUR HEARTS! HA HA HA HA HA!!!!...sorry, but us Jays fans are living in the past.

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