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#1 Posted on 14.10.02 2207.43
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Will Trippulaytch reveal why Kane is a murderer? It's time for The 10/14/02 Wiener of the Day Great Thomas RAW Report!

Kane/Hurricane vs. Christian/Jericho: Power moves galore! OMG NEW TAG CHAMPS! NEW TAG CHAMPS! O CANADA!

Storm vs. Al Snow: Slight pop for Storm. J.R. pisses off Regal. God, the crowd is DEAD! DEAD DEAD DEAD! Anyway, Storm wins.

Victoria: YES! The fitness model story! Thank God it wasn't the lesbian story!

Highlight Reel: It made NWA's X-Division look like a Jakked match! Which isn't saying much. Ha! Ha! Ha!

Trippulaytch et Ric Flair: OMG TRIPPULAYTCH IN A SUIT! That's gonna ilicit screams from the fangirls!

Hardy vs. Rico: J.R. mentions American Gladiators. Dead crowd! DEAD! Hardy wins via Swanton.

Kane et Terri Are Friends: Awwwwwwwwwwwww....

Kane: "What?'s" galore! Kane's a drunk driver! And a date-raper! And a necrophiliac!

Molly/Victoria vs. Jacqueline/Trish (Special Referee: Stacy Kiebler): Stacy is a crappy heel referee. Jackie wins.

Pat Patterson: Remember when Pat was a McMahon Stooge? Fah! He gets the biggest pop of the night. Five-star video montage. I smell Samoans... I was right! Hey, they DO remember the Stooges! Thanks for coming out, Gerry! Big Show face turn, and that's about it.

Nowinski vs. Dreamer: Welcome back, Chris! Al Snow makes sure Dreamer doesn't cheat, and Chris wins.

Trippulaytch: HA! HA! HA! The idiots were about to go on commerial break, but Trippulaytch wouldn't let 'em!

Randy Orton: He tore his shoulder! He mentioned "The Screwjob!" OMG Randy Orton heel turn!

Booker T vs. Big Show: Big Show heel turn. Jericho screws Booker T. Big Show wins.

The Main Event: RVD gets his hide whipped. The crowd is still deader than Katie Vick. RVD with a Superman comeback, the faces return, Trippulaytch wins.

That's all for this week. Until then, Good Night, take care of yourselves, and above all else, I have never seen a crowd more dead than in Montreal. That is all.
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#2 Posted on 14.10.02 2214.49
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Y'know. I'm not a difficult man to please. And to me it really doesn't matter who writes RAW, whether it's Steph, Trips, Brian, Hayes, or Heyman. BUT WHEN YOU CAN'T KEEP CONTINUITY FOR A HALF HOUR, YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS WRITING TELEVISION!

What the fuck was up with Big Show and Three Minutes standing right next to each other, whipping RVD without even looking at each other a half-hour after Show whips the crap out of Rosie and Jamal?

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#3 Posted on 14.10.02 2217.12
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Yes, it's the grand return of...and a fashion report, too!

Silly everyone, "Dragon Pink" doesn't have ANYTHING to do with dragons.

Happy Thanksgiving to the north-of-the-border-ers. Or, as I call it, Monday.

Kane, in mask and straps, and Hurri-Kane, in mask and cape, vs. Christian, with HIS music and ugly red outfit, and Y2J, with a beard of pharonic proportions. Cheat to win! A good match.

DeadCowMan makes matches. Hey, are those new tag belts?

MrCanada, in zigzag black trunks vs. Head, in blue trunks. Willy "gets the F out" and comes down to the ring. More Canadian winning.

Victoria spills the beans. Ooo, what a betrayal (not that SHE'S bitter). Jeffey, Spikey, and Robbie chat; DeadCowMan books more matches. Whoo! mopes, Thhhor stalks.

Jeffey, in wifebeater, with black hanky and glow-in-dark facial, vs. Rico, in Tiger-striped suit, with old Billy/Chuck music, and sideburns. Hey, Jeff's chewing gum! Nice match.

Kane/Terri share a moment. Hey, they match.

Kane chats. WHoever had "accident" in the pool (me!) wins. No, Thhhor, Kane couldn't have done that (see X-Pac/Tori/Kane from summer of '99). This angle has gone from dumb to stupid, VERY stupid...quickly.

Kane leaves, but Hurri-Kane has that "I'm gonna do something about this" look.

Hey, it's bondage time; Booker looks stoked.

Pat Patterson. Um, let's feel the "three minutes" vibe. Man, more bi-lingual stuff. Why doesn't my German come in handy anymore? We need the good ol' German heels! Y'know, EVENTUALLY, someone will bring backup to these segments. Hey, this stuff is kinda coming together now.

Head and H-man chat. Now: H-man, in H-undies vs. Tommy, in "Psych ward" shirt.

Terri/Thhhor chat. Hey, HHHE reads the "police reports". To summarize: Kane=murderer necrophiliac; RVD=chump; HHHe=game, the.

Randy Orton - an STD walking. JR, in black hat, chats with Randy. Hello Randy, meet my HEEL.

Booker, in fiery Booker-undies, vs. Giant, in black singlet. Foreshadowing: Flair/HHH and a forklift. Bad match, predictable interference.

Hey, how fortunate that ALL the faces would be in that locker room at the SAME TIME. Thhhor, in iron cross undies, with Whoo! and wearing the belt, vs. RVD, in RVD singlet. Booker leads the face cavalry; Kane returns. Okay match.

Sigh; except for the Katie Fick (aka Lucy II) stuff this was pretty good. Now they've just gotta do the little things. I mean, Show was strapping Rosie/Jamal earlier in the show, but he cooperates with them in the main event? And why didn't Y2J get some shots in on HHH? Keep up the good work, Raw team.
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#4 Posted on 14.10.02 2217.56
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In a turn of events that words can barely describe, Triple H came out from the back with something to say. He told Kane that he knew all about Katie Fick. He then accused the big man off killing her. As RAW went off the air, The Game spoke these ugly words -- "Kane, you are a murderer!"

It's Fick, dammit. It's Fick.

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#5 Posted on 14.10.02 2223.13
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The Orton “Angle” push continues in fine fashion. Great promo, even if the crowd already hated him. Leave it to Vince to use the opportunity to push the Bret Hart incident into the ground, from this promo to the “Anthology” promo. “YOU SCREWED BRET” chant imminent. Hebner hates his life.

The IC history video was nice, even if I didn't see Ravishing Rick Rude in it. I HAD to have missed him, RIGHT? And how great was it to see the legendary hug between Warrior and Hogan when Warrior won mind...

I am all for Jericho/Christian as tag champs. I am all for Booker T/Goldust getting the shot at the PPV. I can’t remember the name of the PPV and there’s no chance of me actually ordering it, but what the heck…

“Bite me”?!? “BITE ME”?!?

You know what else Victoria has in common with Chyna? Her SUCKY ASS PROMOS

So here comes Kane to do this serious promo, and the crowd resurrects the “What” chant. I loved that. I would have loved it more if they chanted “Boring”. Then H comes out and does this promo that pisses me off all over again. But now it’s because the whole thing’s watered down and dumb. Ooooh! He said “semen”. How cutting edge.

Here comes Big Show with a strap to save Patterson! He’s a face! Wait…He’s fighting Booker T! He’s a heel again! Wait...D’Lo’s attacking Kane! He’s a heel! WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON HERE

You know what would be original? If a “Falls Count Anywhere” match began and ended IN THE RING and never once left the confines of the ropes.

So was it a missed cue…or was H really bogarting the show? Let the rumors fly, but it was as funny as it was ironic.

Eh. The show didn’t suck, but it sure felt like it sucked.

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#6 Posted on 14.10.02 2223.35
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Hmm.... I forget -- are we allowed to use profanity here? Cuz if so, I've got a lovely off-color rhyme for everyone.
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#7 Posted on 14.10.02 2224.14
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Good, I get to be the first to say this...

The commercials jobbed to Triple H! He's holding back corporate America!

That is all.
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#8 Posted on 14.10.02 2225.28
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    He told Kane that he knew all about Katie Fick. He then accused the big man off killing her. As RAW went off the air, The Game spoke these ugly words -- "Kane, you are a murderer!"

    It's Fick, dammit. It's Fick.


It could be worse. She could be Katie Fabe... you know... K. Fabe? (rim shot) Thanks, I'll be here all week!
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#9 Posted on 14.10.02 2226.29
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The capacity crowd actually chanted "This show sucks!".

I believe that says it all.
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#10 Posted on 14.10.02 2227.13
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Warning: Horrible joke ahead.

How much Fick could a red freak fuck if a red freak could fuck Fick?
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#11 Posted on 14.10.02 2232.08
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Wow, this was one of the poorest two hour productions of all time. I usually hate Canada, but they put up with a lot tonight, so I don't blame to much for the dead crowd although the Kane interview didn't need What? chants. On the ohter hand, I'm shocked the fans didn't rush in the ring during the main event when it was just the heels. The front row looked poised to move a few times. Part of me wished they did, so we didn't see the further protection of HHH by the creative crew. Man, if this guy won't job in a non-title match or even get Kane's finisher prior to a PPV then there is little or no hope of him getting this belt taken off in the near future.

A Fan- Praying for someone to take a stand after tonight.
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#12 Posted on 14.10.02 2235.03
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WTF line of the night:
Jim Ross: "It's a Canadian Lumberjack match, Canadian in such that the lumberjacks will have leather straps."

I didn't know Canadians were required to carry leather straps...

Missed line of the night:
Kane (in response to HHH asking if he'd had sex with Katie before or after she died): Well, I'd rather have sex with a corpse than Chyna.

Funniest spot of the night:
The 'You Screwed Bret' chant switching to a spontaneous 'Big Show Sucks' chant and Show looks over his shoulder with a "what the hell?" look on his face. Props to the HHH/Flair forklift spot during the Falls Count Anywhere match as well. I found myself thinking "It would be funny if they went into the women's locker room, after the Nicole Bass lawsuit." and lo-and-behold they did.

I'd say the 2 tag matches were the best matches tonight. I actually thought the tag title match was over on a couple of different occasions and wasn't sure who was going to win it. The women's match was good as well and Trish vs. Victoria at No Mercy could be a really good match.

It won't be a show that will be remembered 3 months from now, but it was an entertaining effort none-the-less.
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#13 Posted on 14.10.02 2238.06
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The forklift spot YES. That ruled. BEEP BEEP BEEP
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#14 Posted on 14.10.02 2240.16
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I could've sworn they were chanting "This Show Sucks."
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#15 Posted on 14.10.02 2241.55
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I *warned* you last week not to bitch about the HHH/Kane murder angle until you knew where it was going. Sure, you scoffed at it last week, but now that it's got necropheliac undertones and HHH saying the word "semen", you realize that... Okay, what the fuck was that?

Um, what else...

Glad to see Jericho and Christian as a full-time tag team. Jericho's got *nothing* to do right now, and this could freshen him up a bit. I hate to say it, but, as of late, he's *deserved* to be a midcarder.

Victoria's promo was big-time unintended comedy. What the hell was she looking at? Ah. the turbulent world of fitness modelling, spilling over into the squared circle... My fragile heart can't take it.

Randy Orton's injury couldn't have come at a worse time. That was the first time I gave a damn about him since he debuted, and now he's not going to be around for a few months. Great. Good to see Nowinski back, though. I could've sworn he was going to be out longer than that.

The tribute to the IC Belt was mark-out city, I must admit. Not only the video footage featuring a ton of people we aren't supposed to remember.. (Who was that bald guy? And the smug-looking guy with the blond crewcut? And the transvestite in the leather chaps?), but, I must admit, I actually said the phrase "Come on, Brisco - kick his ass!" out loud, in my bedroom, by myself. I'm so ashamed.

Plus, I always mark out huge for D'Lo On TV!!! And I'm the last Big Show mark, so it's all the proverbial gravy... (Was Show fighting alongside The Island Boyz at the end, or did they both just happen to be attacking faces? I didn't notice.)

I thought the RVD - HHH/Flair fued was over because Van Dam teamed with Dreamer two weeks ago... I could've sworn they were BURYING HIM~! Eh, what do I know...

It was definitely a "You screwed Bret" chant. Aside from the HHH angle, the show was fine.

A Fan: Look, I get pigeonholed as the big HHH defender (and I don't even really like the guy), but I would see no sense in selling the guy as a strong heel and then jobbing him in a match right before the PPV. Honestly, he should've looked *stronger*. He didn't even win the match - Flair hit Van Dam with the belt while RVD had Hunter beat and HHH kinda rolled on top of him. It was hardly the squash everyone's gonna make it out to be.

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#16 Posted on 14.10.02 2248.35
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Click Here

    JR Said in the Ross Report
    I am looking forward to RAW this Monday night from Montreal, where the fans are usually off the chart.

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#17 Posted on 14.10.02 2249.01
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The frustrating thing is that this show had some really good elements, really good parts, but then countered it with really bad elements. If the WWE could just get it all together, they might really be putting good shows on.

The forklift spot was fun. Jericho with his "how you doin'?" to Trish after smashing Booker with a chair was great. Orton's promo was great, and his new commerical about him being a stud and his dad telling him to use protection was hilarious. The IC title montage package was pretty cool to watch, all that history.

Of course on the flipside you had the whole insinuation of necrophilia or rape, which is just a lovely thought. You had Bischoff calling it the WCW You have the missed continutity with Big Show that has already been mentioned.

Many times, the WWE shows are mostly good, and one can look beyond the bad parts, because the overall show makes up for it. In this case, I thought it was about 50/50, and the good parts were often overshadowed by the screwups.
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#18 Posted on 14.10.02 2249.35
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    Originally posted by OlFuzzyBastard
    Glad to see Jericho and Christian as a full-time tag team. Jericho's got *nothing* to do right now, and this could freshen him up a bit. I hate to say it, but, as of late, he's *deserved* to be a midcarder.

    Victoria's promo was big-time unintended comedy. What the hell was she looking at? Ah. the turbulent world of fitness modelling, spilling over into the squared circle... My fragile heart can't take it.

After seeing all of Jericho's antics outside the ring during the match, I think he needs to immediately become the manager of every single heel on the roster. I was laughing my ass off at him most of the time. I don't think he and Christian are full time tag partners, either. I'm guessing this is just a way to drag out the Booker T/Chris Jericho feud even longer. I wonder if they'll go one-on-one at Survivor Series or if they'll captain actual SS teams.

And I didn't notice anything at all wrong with Victoria's promo. It wasn't great, by any means, but it was certainly better than, say, Chris Benoit. I was just relieved that there was no intimate relationship of any kind involved.

And I still can't believe there aren't 3 or 4 threads talking about the fact that Test wasn't on the show. Hell, even Johnny Stamboli came out at the end.
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#19 Posted on 14.10.02 2304.56
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Totally unrelated, but OlFuzzyBastard, what's that cartoon in your sig? It's REALLY funny, but my monitor sucks and I can't quite read between the lines to get the name of the strip.
Back to your regularly scheduled ranting

(And, for the record, while I normally defend even the shittiest, what a pile of poo...)
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#20 Posted on 14.10.02 2306.11
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Crud crud crud!!!

The Chrisses won the tag title on a cheap rollup/ropes trick.

Snow got Stormed. Blame JR for dissing Regal.

Somebody visually cued Victoria off big time. What was she looking at?

Well, at least Molly doesn't have the worst angle of the year. That murder angle is beyond terrible.

In a match that was supposed to highlight the Victoria/Trish feud, Molly was in it almost the whole match. Stacy is a bad wrestler, and an even worse referee. They have to realize that referees are a part in making a good match. With Stacy in it, one cannot possibly have a good match AT ALL.

Too much HHH as usual, even butting in a match with the forklift.

Bob Orton got booed out of the building, HAHA.

The IC montage was OK. They had Pat Patterson there because Pedro Morales would have beaten the shi-- out of the Island Boyz.

Weird, one minute Big Show whipped the Boyz, the next they were together lamely whipping RVD.

Kane is not Stone Cold in terms of end of show beatings.

Bad bad Raw. We still have Smackdown.

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