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#1 Posted on 30.8.02 1112.51
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http://espn.go.com/main.html

According to ESPN.com there will not be a strike. It is difficult to root for either side in this situation. But, how do you fairly carve up a $3.5 BILLION dollar pie?

Let's go Cardinals!!!!!
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#2 Posted on 30.8.02 1148.11
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grrrr...i was actually pulling for a strike...oh well, maybe they'll have another in 4 years...
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#3 Posted on 30.8.02 1150.17
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This is great news. Now I can finally start paying attention to baseball again. Go Twins go!
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#4 Posted on 30.8.02 1310.21
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Now the hard part: winning the fans back. It'll take more than an apartment in Toronto and Blue Jays season tickets Mr. Selig... But I'm listening...
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#5 Posted on 30.8.02 1319.25
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And the Expos Stay!
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#6 Posted on 30.8.02 1326.24
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    Originally posted by CajunMan
    And the Expos Stay!


Not necessarily... it says MLB cannot contract teams until 2006. It says nothing about selling and relocating the Expos.
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#7 Posted on 30.8.02 1330.36
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Question about the revenue sharing:

Is there a floor so that the small market teams are forced to spend the money they will be getting or can they just pocket it?

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#8 Posted on 30.8.02 1436.40
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Nope. There is absolutely nothing stopping the Kansas City Royals or the Detroit Tigers or the Tampa Bay Devil Rays from taking the money, putting it in their back pocket, siting back, and enjoying another 60-102 season. Of course, there's nothing stopping John Henry or George Steinbrenner from saying "Hey! It's been four years and your team still sucks! What the hell's going on?"
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#9 Posted on 30.8.02 1444.47
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Hallelujah! If baseball had gone away, I'd be forced to cry even more when watching Field of Dreams.

Then I'd have to torture Selig to death.

PS--I know it's not all his fault, so don't start that sub-thread, okay?
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#10 Posted on 30.8.02 1529.24
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    Originally posted by evilwaldo
    Question about the revenue sharing:

    Is there a floor so that the small market teams are forced to spend the money they will be getting or can they just pocket it?








Players don't want a floor because then theoretically it would allow a cap (logic from the Don Fehr school of thought). Today did make me wish Captain Carl Everett was still in Boston though, because him locked in the clubhouse for 4 hours with his teammates waiting for a plane could have provided much amusement.
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#11 Posted on 30.8.02 1649.36
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    Originally posted by gugs
    Nope. There is absolutely nothing stopping the Kansas City Royals or the Detroit Tigers or the Tampa Bay Devil Rays from taking the money, putting it in their back pocket, siting back, and enjoying another 60-102 season. Of course, there's nothing stopping John Henry or George Steinbrenner from saying "Hey! It's been four years and your team still sucks! What the hell's going on?"


Yeah, but say you're the Marlins and you already have shitty attendance and a lousy team. I think for a couple of years there will be big time pressure on those teams, especially from the larger teams like the Yankees, to step up and try do to something about it. If it pretty much stays the same I guess they would either have to (1) go back to the way it is now since the large market teams would say giving all the luxury tax and local revenue didn't help or (2) blow it up and go NFL-style, which for baseball would seem completely impossible.

I heard the REAL thing that brought everyone to the bargaining table for so long was Guru's threat to close the baseball forum. I think Peter Gammons said that.
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#12 Posted on 30.8.02 1807.46
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If the small market teams put money back into their farm systems and rebuild then we should start to see the effects after 4 years.

If they choose to resign players and keep their teams together then that is good also.

But if the money is put into teams pockets and not spent on the franchises then in 4 years then we may see an owners revolt which would be very interesting.

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#13 Posted on 30.8.02 1837.58
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"DAMN IT, IT SHOULD NEVER HAVE GONE THIS FAR IN THE FIRST PLACE" -CRZ (13.6.2 WWE Smackdown)

So baseball's not going on strike and they expect everything to be all better now. Well, here's a novel concept: FUCK BASEBALL ANYWAY! A strike never should have been threatened to begin with. It's a classic case of a baby threatening to throw a tantrum if he doesn't get what he wants. That analogy applies to BOTH players and owners! Who the hell are they to put themselves on such a high horse and assume that the world revolves around them?

Don't get me wrong, I'm happy they reached an agreement and I'm happy that my dreams for a Freeway World Series are still alive. But I'm just pissed off that it even had to reach that point at all, you know?

If they really want to make things better, they can issue the fans a public apology or something, because not all fans are as forgiving as me.
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#14 Posted on 30.8.02 2039.47
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Surely we're not supposed to provide the players or owners any good will for taking the negotiations all the way up until the last minute before making a deal. You could make the arguement that it wasn't a strike itself but the wait over the strike that causes the most damage, because they wait until the last week(end) to cover more ground than in several months of earlier talks. Seeing Jayson Stark giving live updates at midnight on ESPNews as the negoations were being hammered out wasn't a scary sight. It was just tired and exasperating. This "whole will they or won't they" period has been. Now that the college football season and the NFL are ready to kick in, we'll see if anyone cares enough to give baseball more than just passing interest.
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#15 Posted on 30.8.02 2129.06
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    Originally posted by evilwaldo
    If the small market teams put money back into their farm systems and rebuild then we should start to see the effects after 4 years.

    If they choose to resign players and keep their teams together then that is good also.

    But if the money is put into teams pockets and not spent on the franchises then in 4 years then we may see an owners revolt which would be very interesting.




So I guess this begs the question: what does baseball do in this event? How do you remove an owner who's content to let their teams rot and pocket the revenue-sharing money? Can they?
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#16 Posted on 31.8.02 2001.17
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    Originally posted by drjayphd

      Originally posted by evilwaldo
      If the small market teams put money back into their farm systems and rebuild then we should start to see the effects after 4 years.

      If they choose to resign players and keep their teams together then that is good also.

      But if the money is put into teams pockets and not spent on the franchises then in 4 years then we may see an owners revolt which would be very interesting.




    So I guess this begs the question: what does baseball do in this event? How do you remove an owner who's content to let their teams rot and pocket the revenue-sharing money? Can they?



I know that at the end of Marge Schott's reign in Cincinnati there were talks about the commissioner invoking a rule that would remove her from the franchise but I am not clear on the rule.

My concern is that the 6 owners that are probably against this deal sway 3 or 4 owners to their side in 4 years forming a blocking minority that could overrule any deal that might be struck.
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#17 Posted on 3.9.02 1751.20
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I'd be a lot happier with the fact that the strike was averted if 1) I was a Braves fan rather than a Mets fan, and 2)Major league baseball found some way to include me in their revenue sharing plan.
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