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#1 Posted on 18.8.02 1746.18
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From the observer website:

"Ultimo Dragon, one of the greatest workers of all time, returned to EMLL TV on the show which aired in Mexico over the weekend. Los Guerreros del Infierno jumped him, which lead to their main event match against Shocker & Negro Casas & Vampiro (who Dragon said was responsible for him coming back to Mexico). Hopefully this airs on TV in two weeks."

I thought for all intents and purposes his arm was mush. If it has improved to the point it is viable for him to work, then this is excellent news. And if his pupils also make their way to EMLL, Damn.

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#2 Posted on 18.8.02 1803.42
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Rumors have been flying for years that he was coming back to TORYUMON soon. I guess it's finally coming to fruition. I hope he's back and his arm works.

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#3 Posted on 18.8.02 1804.26
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There had been rumors circulating about for months that might attempt a comeback.

I'd look toward the Toryumon vs. T2P card in September as a likely return date.
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#4 Posted on 18.8.02 1822.53
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Maybe the reason they ran the angle was for him to get a warmup match (out of the spotlight) in Mexico before September?

Barnett said he's getting paid lots of money to wrestle, so I guess it'll be a matter of where first, and for how long.
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#5 Posted on 18.8.02 1842.14
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You know, if the WWE was smart, they would get Ultimo on contract and let him get some primo American exposure. And if/when he decides to hang up the mask, then he would make a great addition to the development team for future curiserweights.

If Finley can do what he's done for the ladies, imagine what Ultimo could do for Cruisers...
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#6 Posted on 18.8.02 1947.19
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Does he even want to work for the WWE or is he happier working outside of them? I loved to watch this guy wrestle. Here's to many more matches!
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#7 Posted on 18.8.02 1954.55
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Why wouldn't he want to wrestle in WWE? After all, he's a former WWE cruiserweight champion, sort of. And we all know how well cruiserweights get pushed in WWE.
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#8 Posted on 18.8.02 2021.16
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For years, Ultimo was THE premier cruiserweight, winning the "8 titles" and holding it for as long as he did. I hope he is better.
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#9 Posted on 18.8.02 2026.19
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I hope he stays as far away from Stamford as possible and keeps his student with him.

Toryumon and T2P are my favorite companies in the business right now and I don't want them besmerched.

Remember how well they booked Magnum Tokyo and Ciima in WCW?
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#10 Posted on 18.8.02 2125.54
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Was Magnum Tokyo the guy with the cat mask and pink tights that hung out with Disco and Alex Wright? Whoever that guy was had a great gimmick. Sure it was comic relief, but he wore a freakin little black mask and pink tights.

When was Ciima in WCW?

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#11 Posted on 18.8.02 2218.40
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    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
    Was Magnum Tokyo the guy with the cat mask and pink tights that hung out with Disco and Alex Wright? Whoever that guy was had a great gimmick. Sure it was comic relief, but he wore a freakin little black mask and pink tights.

    When was Ciima in WCW?

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I saw Cima all of one time in WCW, aside from (I think) a six-man tag schmozz. It was a singles match on Thunder, IIRC, and I think they spelled his name Shima.

He got pyro. Lame Adam Bomb surplus mushroom cloud pyro, but pyro all the same. And he won his match, I seem to remember.

I remember thinking that that (and the fact that they kept talking about them as Ultimo's students) meant that he, Tokyo Magnum (as they insisted on calling him) and Judo Suwa were going to actually do something.

I was young, and naive.

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#12 Posted on 19.8.02 0638.07
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What's really funny is that Disco apparently is going over to Japan and team with Magnum in a six-man, I think on the big September show. I think it would be really funny if they also brought Alex Wright to be the third person.
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#13 Posted on 19.8.02 1248.38
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If I remember correctly, UD was backstage at a wwf show a year-or-two ago and there was talk of him training some of the light/crusierweights, despite his arm problems.

But it's obvious that didn't work out.

I do hope his arm is better. I'm not a big fan of Japanese wrestling, but I have the Chris Jericho RF tape and the Jericho/UD match is on there- and it's pretty damn good.
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#14 Posted on 19.8.02 1534.52
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God, I hope he is able to return. I loved watching his matches, as they were always entertaining, regardless of his opponent (though it was usually another cruiser).

I won't be expecting any handspring manuvers or things of that nature, but he'll still be able to throw those kicks of his. The only other wrestler I've seen with a set of kicks that look as punishing is Tajiri.
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#15 Posted on 19.8.02 1627.00
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    Originally posted by GumbyTom
    If I remember correctly, UD was backstage at a wwf show a year-or-two ago and there was talk of him training some of the light/crusierweights, despite his arm problems.

    But it's obvious that didn't work out.

    I do hope his arm is better. I'm not a big fan of Japanese wrestling, but I have the Chris Jericho RF tape and the Jericho/UD match is on there- and it's pretty damn good.


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DR: I could see Ultimo wrestling in WWE. His students in WWE would be great exposure. CIMA, SUWA and Magnum in WCW was great experience. Where else would have that kind of experience as Japanese rookies? Look how well they turned out after the WCW and EMLL experiences.

Of course, if WWE was smart they would send developemental guys to train with Ultimo in Japan since Ultimo is THE greatest trainer of wrestlers EVER.

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#16 Posted on 19.8.02 1637.06
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    Originally posted by DEAN RASMUSSEN
    DR: I could see Ultimo wrestling in WWE. His students in WWE would be great exposure. CIMA, SUWA and Magnum in WCW was great experience. Where else would have that kind of experience as Japanese rookies? Look how well they turned out after the WCW and EMLL experiences.

    Of course, if WWE was smart they would send developemental guys to train with Ultimo in Japan since Ultimo is THE greatest trainer of wrestlers EVER.

    DEAN.



CIMA & SUWA in the WWE... oh, man, that'd be something. Put 'em on Smackdown with Eddie, Chavo, and Tajiri and LET THE DICK HEELS REIGN SUPREME.
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#17 Posted on 19.8.02 1830.25
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Jesus christ on a minibike! I saw like 90% of the bizarrely split show on Saturday, somehow missed Ultimo Dragon, did my usual channel flipping through all recaps except the 'estrella' highspot reel on Sunday.

I'm gonna haveta start taping those shows, I guess.

Hey, I'm detecting a really mild endorsement of Ultimo's in-ring skills in many of the other postings on this thread. I know him only through his WCW matches (of which there were about fifteen with Y2J, so the gentleman who posted digging their one match should keep looking for others on old Saturday Night and Nitro tapes), but the guy was great. Always welcome on my TV screen.

How the heck did Nate get to be a light heavyweight in only seven-plus months?!? I'm a laggard in THIS, too?!
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#18 Posted on 19.8.02 1834.31
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The episode with Ultimo Dragon's first apperance won't be on for another couple weeks.
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#19 Posted on 19.8.02 1846.36
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Thanks! That's the kind of thing these boards (and of course, this one in particular!) do that nothing else can really do. I appreciate the tip.
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#20 Posted on 19.8.02 2052.04
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    Originally posted by humanmeal
    How the heck did Nate get to be a light heavyweight in only seven-plus months?!? I'm a laggard in THIS, too?!


Would you believe I was trained by Ultimo Dragon?

Nah, neither would I. Clean livin', I guess.
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