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#1 Posted on 12.8.02 1603.45
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This issue is geared toward the other writers out there.

How do you guys usually handle punctuation after a parenthetical phrase? I have seen this handled one of three ways, for example:

1. Glen Jacobs has had numerous gimmicks, but his most famous character is Kane (which is my favorite gimmick).

2. Glen Jacobs has had numerous gimmicks, but his most famous character is Kane. (which is my favorite gimmick)

3. Glen Jacobs has had numerous gimmicks, but his most famous character is Kane (which is my favorite gimmick.)

I usually ascribe to # 1, but I don't know for sure which way is the correct APA-style way of handling parenthesis. Can you help?
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#2 Posted on 12.8.02 1608.05
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According to my AP style book, it's #1.
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#3 Posted on 12.8.02 1612.10
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    Originally posted by Torchslasher
    correct APA-style


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#4 Posted on 12.8.02 1810.16
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Numero Uno.
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#5 Posted on 12.8.02 2030.11
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I've always been under the idea that #3 was correct. Is there any other rules where the period comes before the parenthesis?
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#6 Posted on 12.8.02 2118.29
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2 is wrong. 1 is correct, and I have seen 3 used a lot, so it may be acceptable, but stick with 1.
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#7 Posted on 12.8.02 2220.56
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#3 is correct according to my "English for Business Communications" text, and is the method I've personally used since '96.
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#8 Posted on 12.8.02 2258.58
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I'm also in the #1 camp.
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#9 Posted on 13.8.02 0016.08
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#1 too...

i do know for a fact that if we were talking about quotes, the period would go in the quote.

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#10 Posted on 13.8.02 0024.20
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#1 is correct according to the APA, that much I know. Having been known to write things from time to time, I am also aware of the writer's prerogative to completely make up grammar rules as you see fit, depending on the situtation.
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#11 Posted on 13.8.02 0120.50
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#1.

Although, if you start a whole new sentence in parentheses, it's OK to put the period at the end of that sentence before you put the end parenthese.

#2 is most definitely wrong, and I have seen people use #3 on occasion but that's wrong as well, according to what I've been taught.

But different forms of writing have different rules.
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#12 Posted on 13.8.02 0633.17
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    Originally posted by ManiacalClown
    #1 is correct according to the APA, that much I know.


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#13 Posted on 13.8.02 0838.01
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Thanks for the help guys. With so many books out there like the AP stylebook, the MP book and the "English for Business Communications" book that Bullitt talks about, there is room for both 1 and 3 I guess.

The punctuation after a parenthetical phrase is certainly less of an issue for me than the correct use of to, two and too, as well as how to use contractions correctly.
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#14 Posted on 13.8.02 0925.46
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You need the period outside the parentheses in order to close the thought expressed by the sentence. At least, that's how I've understood the spirit of how the punctuation is meant to work there.
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#15 Posted on 13.8.02 1035.01
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FWIW, #1 is correct according to my trusty old MLA handbook.
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#16 Posted on 15.8.02 1321.25
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#1 is the correct one according to MLA, etc, etc.

The main concern is that you don't start typing things like this:

ur so st2pid im $$$ i bet u dont like grls <@;]
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#17 Posted on 15.8.02 1618.16
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#1 is definitely correct, but the following has always driven me crazy.

Is this right:

Glen Jacobs has had numerous gimmicks, but his most famous character is Kane (which Torchslasher called his "favorite gimmick").

or this:

Glen Jacobs has had numerous gimmicks, but his most famous character is Kane (which Torchslasher called his "favorite gimmick.")

or this:

Glen Jacobs has had numerous gimmicks, but his most famous character is Kane (which Torchslasher called his "favorite gimmick.)"

or this:

Glen Jacobs has had numerous gimmicks, but his most famous character is Kane (which Torchslasher called his "favorite gimmick)."

I think its #2, but Ive never been sure.

Also is this right:

Glen Jacobs has had numerous gimmicks, but his most famous character is Kane (and I have to say, I love Kane!).

Or this:

Glen Jacobs has had numerous gimmicks, but his most famous character is Kane (and I have to say, I love Kane)!

Strangely enough though, if we combine the two above, Im pretty sure there is only one obviously correct way to write it, as in:

Glen Jacobs has had numerous gimmicks, but his most famous character is Kane (earlier Torchslasher said "its my favorite gimmick!").


(edited by MoeGates on 15.8.02 1721)
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#18 Posted on 15.8.02 1621.19
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I want to say #1, but I'm less sure on this one.

I always try and avoid special punctuation and parenthetical phrases.

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#19 Posted on 15.8.02 1655.05
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There are many kinds of pie, such as apple pie (which is my favorite).

The first part is talking about the kinds of pie, and the part after the comma is also talking of pie. The period after the parenthesis is ending the pie thought, while the part within the parenthesis is related to pie, but not entirely relevent to the subject and can be cut if needed.

So, in short, I was told to always put a period AFTER the end parenthesis or face execution. What can I say, my English teacher is crazy.
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#20 Posted on 15.8.02 2146.21
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    Originally posted by MoeGates
    #1 is definitely correct, but the following has always driven me crazy.

    Is this right:

    Glen Jacobs has had numerous gimmicks, but his most famous character is Kane (which Torchslasher called his "favorite gimmick").



That's correct. Think about it this way - if you removed the phrase in parentheses, would what's left still be a correct sentence? If the phrase was removed, Version #2 would become a sentence with no ending punctuation, and Versions #3 & #4 would become a sentence with an unpaired quotation mark.

An exception to this rule would be if the phrase in parentheses was its' own complete sentence, like this:

Glen Jacobs has had numerous gimmicks, but his most famous character is Kane. (It's also been his most popular character.)

Steph
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