The W
Views: 103811311
Main | FAQ | Search: Y! / G | Color chart | Log in for more!
19.4.08 0431
The 7 - Random - Punctuation and Parenthesis
This thread has 1 referral leading to it
Register and log in to post!
Pages: 1 2 Next(3307 newer) Next thread | Previous thread
User
Post (21 total)
Torchslasher
Knackwurst
Level: 107

Posts: 185/3283
EXP: 13086190
For next: 5163

Since: 17.1.02
From: New F'n Jersey

Since last post: 12 days
Last activity: 11 days
#1 Posted on 12.8.02 1603.45
Reposted on: 12.8.09 1607.56
This issue is geared toward the other writers out there.

How do you guys usually handle punctuation after a parenthetical phrase? I have seen this handled one of three ways, for example:

1. Glen Jacobs has had numerous gimmicks, but his most famous character is Kane (which is my favorite gimmick).

2. Glen Jacobs has had numerous gimmicks, but his most famous character is Kane. (which is my favorite gimmick)

3. Glen Jacobs has had numerous gimmicks, but his most famous character is Kane (which is my favorite gimmick.)

I usually ascribe to # 1, but I don't know for sure which way is the correct APA-style way of handling parenthesis. Can you help?
Promote this thread!
Parts Unknown
Lap cheong
Level: 81

Posts: 453/1724
EXP: 4987536
For next: 5334

Since: 2.1.02
From: Darkenwood

Since last post: 2 days
Last activity: 15 hours
#2 Posted on 12.8.02 1608.05
Reposted on: 12.8.09 1610.09
According to my AP style book, it's #1.
Fazzle
Kishke
Level: 43

Posts: 331/401
EXP: 559481
For next: 5570

Since: 2.1.02
From: Wilmington, NC

Since last post: 3755 days
Last activity: 3357 days
#3 Posted on 12.8.02 1612.10
Reposted on: 12.8.09 1619.39

    Originally posted by Torchslasher
    correct APA-style


Drink enough beers until you don't care anymore? :)
The Psycho Pirate
Chorizo
Level: 27

Posts: 45/141
EXP: 115591
For next: 569

Since: 31.3.02
From: Earth-Three

Since last post: 4504 days
Last activity: 4231 days
#4 Posted on 12.8.02 1810.16
Reposted on: 12.8.09 1819.42

Numero Uno.
Super Shane Spear
Bierwurst
Level: 84

Posts: 557/1839
EXP: 5494855
For next: 167121

Since: 2.1.02
From: Sector 7 Slums

Since last post: 1769 days
Last activity: 1769 days
#5 Posted on 12.8.02 2030.11
Reposted on: 12.8.09 2038.50
I've always been under the idea that #3 was correct. Is there any other rules where the period comes before the parenthesis?
eviljonhunt81
Pepperoni
Level: 67

Posts: 405/1084
EXP: 2485594
For next: 107292

Since: 6.1.02
From: not Japan

Since last post: 3165 days
Last activity: 3162 days
#6 Posted on 12.8.02 2118.29
Reposted on: 12.8.09 2129.02
2 is wrong. 1 is correct, and I have seen 3 used a lot, so it may be acceptable, but stick with 1.
Bullitt
Shot in the dark
Level: 85

Posts: 287/1929
EXP: 5897766
For next: 798

Since: 11.1.02
From: Houston

Since last post: 50 days
Last activity: 4 days
#7 Posted on 12.8.02 2220.56
Reposted on: 12.8.09 2223.29
#3 is correct according to my "English for Business Communications" text, and is the method I've personally used since '96.
CRZ
Big Brother
Administrator
Level: 215

Posts: 1106/16497
EXP: 147995007
For next: 116510

Since: 9.12.01
From: ミネアポリス

Since last post: 11 hours
Last activity: 11 min.
AIM:  
ICQ:  
Y!:
#8 Posted on 12.8.02 2258.58
Reposted on: 12.8.09 2259.03
I'm also in the #1 camp.
Zeruel
Thirty Millionth Hit
Moderator
Level: 132

Posts: 763/5247
EXP: 26481377
For next: 650627

Since: 2.1.02
From: The Silver Spring in the Land of Mary.

Since last post: 12 days
Last activity: 3 days
#9 Posted on 13.8.02 0016.08
Reposted on: 13.8.09 0029.02
#1 too...

i do know for a fact that if we were talking about quotes, the period would go in the quote.

ManiacalClown
Landjager
Level: 62

Posts: 371/932
EXP: 1982399
For next: 2298

Since: 2.1.02
From: Houston, TX

Since last post: 723 days
Last activity: 723 days
AIM:  
#10 Posted on 13.8.02 0024.20
Reposted on: 13.8.09 0029.12
#1 is correct according to the APA, that much I know. Having been known to write things from time to time, I am also aware of the writer's prerogative to completely make up grammar rules as you see fit, depending on the situtation.
ekedolphin
Scrapple
Level: 133

Posts: 949/5387
EXP: 27521395
For next: 331345

Since: 12.1.02
From: Indianapolis, IN; now residing in Suffolk, VA

Since last post: 304 days
Last activity: 142 days
#11 Posted on 13.8.02 0120.50
Reposted on: 13.8.09 0129.06
#1.

Although, if you start a whole new sentence in parentheses, it's OK to put the period at the end of that sentence before you put the end parenthese.

#2 is most definitely wrong, and I have seen people use #3 on occasion but that's wrong as well, according to what I've been taught.

But different forms of writing have different rules.
The Psycho Pirate
Chorizo
Level: 27

Posts: 47/141
EXP: 115591
For next: 569

Since: 31.3.02
From: Earth-Three

Since last post: 4504 days
Last activity: 4231 days
#12 Posted on 13.8.02 0633.17
Reposted on: 13.8.09 0633.18

    Originally posted by ManiacalClown
    #1 is correct according to the APA, that much I know.


I don't know if I'd trust the grammar of either Bradshaw or Ron Simmons. Damn!
Torchslasher
Knackwurst
Level: 107

Posts: 186/3283
EXP: 13086190
For next: 5163

Since: 17.1.02
From: New F'n Jersey

Since last post: 12 days
Last activity: 11 days
#13 Posted on 13.8.02 0838.01
Reposted on: 13.8.09 0845.17
Thanks for the help guys. With so many books out there like the AP stylebook, the MP book and the "English for Business Communications" book that Bullitt talks about, there is room for both 1 and 3 I guess.

The punctuation after a parenthetical phrase is certainly less of an issue for me than the correct use of to, two and too, as well as how to use contractions correctly.
Dr Unlikely
Landjager
Level: 63

Posts: 234/935
EXP: 1992052
For next: 105111

Since: 2.1.02

Since last post: 9 days
Last activity: 19 hours
AIM:  
#14 Posted on 13.8.02 0925.46
Reposted on: 13.8.09 0929.06
You need the period outside the parentheses in order to close the thought expressed by the sentence. At least, that's how I've understood the spirit of how the punctuation is meant to work there.
chuckc14
Summer sausage
Level: 46

Posts: 214/453
EXP: 671783
For next: 39996

Since: 2.1.02
From: Nashville

Since last post: 3357 days
Last activity: 1745 days
#15 Posted on 13.8.02 1035.01
Reposted on: 13.8.09 1035.20
FWIW, #1 is correct according to my trusty old MLA handbook.
WyldeWolf1
Boerewors
Level: 41

Posts: 242/361
EXP: 469517
For next: 10632

Since: 20.6.02
From: Florida

Since last post: 4609 days
Last activity: 4609 days
#16 Posted on 15.8.02 1321.25
Reposted on: 15.8.09 1329.04
#1 is the correct one according to MLA, etc, etc.

The main concern is that you don't start typing things like this:

ur so st2pid im $$$ i bet u dont like grls <@;]
MoeGates
Andouille
Level: 89

Posts: 579/2132
EXP: 6855932
For next: 59996

Since: 6.1.02
From: Brooklyn, NY

Since last post: 19 days
Last activity: 3 days
#17 Posted on 15.8.02 1618.16
Reposted on: 15.8.09 1626.14
#1 is definitely correct, but the following has always driven me crazy.

Is this right:

Glen Jacobs has had numerous gimmicks, but his most famous character is Kane (which Torchslasher called his "favorite gimmick").

or this:

Glen Jacobs has had numerous gimmicks, but his most famous character is Kane (which Torchslasher called his "favorite gimmick.")

or this:

Glen Jacobs has had numerous gimmicks, but his most famous character is Kane (which Torchslasher called his "favorite gimmick.)"

or this:

Glen Jacobs has had numerous gimmicks, but his most famous character is Kane (which Torchslasher called his "favorite gimmick)."

I think its #2, but Ive never been sure.

Also is this right:

Glen Jacobs has had numerous gimmicks, but his most famous character is Kane (and I have to say, I love Kane!).

Or this:

Glen Jacobs has had numerous gimmicks, but his most famous character is Kane (and I have to say, I love Kane)!

Strangely enough though, if we combine the two above, Im pretty sure there is only one obviously correct way to write it, as in:

Glen Jacobs has had numerous gimmicks, but his most famous character is Kane (earlier Torchslasher said "its my favorite gimmick!").


(edited by MoeGates on 15.8.02 1721)
The Psycho Pirate
Chorizo
Level: 27

Posts: 53/141
EXP: 115591
For next: 569

Since: 31.3.02
From: Earth-Three

Since last post: 4504 days
Last activity: 4231 days
#18 Posted on 15.8.02 1621.19
Reposted on: 15.8.09 1629.02

I want to say #1, but I'm less sure on this one.

I always try and avoid special punctuation and parenthetical phrases.

Freeway
Scrapple
Level: 111

Posts: 580/3504
EXP: 14449829
For next: 418577

Since: 3.1.02
From: Calgary

Since last post: 483 days
Last activity: 170 days
#19 Posted on 15.8.02 1655.05
Reposted on: 15.8.09 1659.03
There are many kinds of pie, such as apple pie (which is my favorite).

The first part is talking about the kinds of pie, and the part after the comma is also talking of pie. The period after the parenthesis is ending the pie thought, while the part within the parenthesis is related to pie, but not entirely relevent to the subject and can be cut if needed.

So, in short, I was told to always put a period AFTER the end parenthesis or face execution. What can I say, my English teacher is crazy.
Stephanie
Landjager
Level: 63

Posts: 388/946
EXP: 2027346
For next: 69817

Since: 2.1.02
From: Madison, WI

Since last post: 699 days
Last activity: 168 days
#20 Posted on 15.8.02 2146.21
Reposted on: 15.8.09 2159.07

    Originally posted by MoeGates
    #1 is definitely correct, but the following has always driven me crazy.

    Is this right:

    Glen Jacobs has had numerous gimmicks, but his most famous character is Kane (which Torchslasher called his "favorite gimmick").



That's correct. Think about it this way - if you removed the phrase in parentheses, would what's left still be a correct sentence? If the phrase was removed, Version #2 would become a sentence with no ending punctuation, and Versions #3 & #4 would become a sentence with an unpaired quotation mark.

An exception to this rule would be if the phrase in parentheses was its' own complete sentence, like this:

Glen Jacobs has had numerous gimmicks, but his most famous character is Kane. (It's also been his most popular character.)

Steph
Pages: 1 2 NextThread ahead: Green Lantern
Next thread: Ephedra
Previous thread: How long would you last on 24?
(3307 newer) Next thread | Previous thread
The 7 - Random - Punctuation and ParenthesisRegister and log in to post!

The W™ message board - 7 year recycle

ZimBoard
©2001-2015 Brothers Zim
This old hunk of junk rendered your page in 0.298 seconds.