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#1 Posted on 31.7.02 2320.36
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THE DEATH VALLEY DRIVER VIDEO REVIEW JOSHI 100!
VERSION 3.0 (August 2002)

1 Meiko Satomura
2 Tomoko Watanabe
3 Mariko Yoshida
4 Chikayo Nagashima
5 Ran YuYu
6 NOKI-A
7 Azumi Hyuga
8 Manami Toyota
9 Momoe Nakanishi
10 Faby Apache
11 Carlos Amano
12 Yoshiko Tamura
13 Ayako Hamada
14 Kaoru Ito
15 Nanae Takahashi
16 Lioness Asuka
17 Aja Kong
18 Commander Boirshoi
19 Lady Apache
20 The Bloody
21 Sumie Sakai
22 Ai Fujita
23 Misae Genki
24 Mayumi Ozaki
25 Mary Apache
26 Chigusa Nagayo
27 Yuka Shiina
28 Tsubasa Kuragaki
29 Rena Takase
30 Chapparita ASARI
31 Toshie Uematsu
32 Megumi Yabushita
33 GAMI
34 Kumiko Maekawa
35 KAORU
36 Devil Masami
37 Michiko Omukai
38 Toshio Yamada
39 Hiroumi Yagi
40 Etsuko Mita
41 Baby A
42 Yuki Miyazaki
43 Rie Tamada
44 Kayoko Haruyama
45 Takako Inoue
46 Esther Morena
47 Bionic J
48 Sugar Satoh
49 Mima Shimoda
50 Kaori Yoneyama
51 Cynthia Moreno
52 Sakura Hirota
53 Rumi Kazama
54 Dynamite Kansai
55 Malia Hosaka
56 Fang Suzuki
57 Miyuki Fujii
58 PIKA
59 Sachie Abe
60 Cheerleader Melissa
61 Lady Pentagon
62 Kayo Noumi
63 Yu Yamagata
64 Molly Holly
65 Shinobu Kandori
66 Leilani Kai
67 Eagle Sawai
68 Kyoko Inoue
69 Hiroyo Muto
70 Ran Maru
71 Erika Watanabe
72 Miss Natural
73 Yumiko Hotta
74 Yuka Nakamura
75 Ofune
76 Heather Savage
77 MARU
78 Marcela
79 Mari Kuwada
80 Mercedes Martinez
81 Miss Janeth
82 Tiffany
83 Little Jeanie
84 Emi Tojyo
85 Tanny Mouse
86 Mika Nishio
87 Chitose Yamamoto
88 Obacchi Iizuka
89 Trish Stratus
90 Diana La Cazadora
91 Saki Maemura
92 Bambi
93 Amber Holly
94 GEE STAR
95 Mizuho Ishikawa
96 Kazuki
97 Rain
98 Ayako Sato
99 Taylor Matheny
100 Mighty Heidi

[DVDVR JOSHI CHAMBER OF 100: Phil Rippa, Tim Noel, Ray Duffy, Pete Stein, Scott Leighton, Marcel Hille, Tom K and young Dean Rasmussen.]
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#2 Posted on 1.8.02 0841.45
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When did you become young again, Dean? Are you having some delusions? Did you get a mini-van yet?
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#3 Posted on 1.8.02 0941.20
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    Originally posted by pieman
    When did you become young again, Dean? Are you having some delusions? Did you get a mini-van yet?

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DR: I HAVE NO MINI-VAN, thus I AM NOT OLD YET!

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#4 Posted on 1.8.02 1019.44
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    Originally posted by DEAN RASMUSSEN
    1 Meiko Satomura
Well, I'll be damned. Stupid ol' hardly any joshi watched ever ME actually has her #1 as well!

(Mostly because she's the only one who I have lusted after enough to actually remember her name...which I guess makes everyone else a tie for #2?)
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#5 Posted on 1.8.02 1206.10
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BTW Chris - I would like to apologize to you on behalf of all the Death Valley Driver staff for the posting of another long list on this message board. Dean sometimes misses the memos :-)

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#6 Posted on 1.8.02 1224.14
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Okay, so I didn't know who nearly all of these wrestlers were, so I googled and found Michiku Pro and they had profiles of most of these wrestlers. Very interesting reading but it raised a question. In each profile, it has the wrestlers' blood type. Is this for instant arena transfusions or what?
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#7 Posted on 1.8.02 1344.46
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    Originally posted by pieman
    Okay, so I didn't know who nearly all of these wrestlers were, so I googled and found Michiku Pro and they had profiles of most of these wrestlers. Very interesting reading but it raised a question. In each profile, it has the wrestlers' blood type. Is this for instant arena transfusions or what?


I believe in some of the Japanese video games, they also list the wrestler's blood type in their bio.

Because I'm too lazy to do it myself (and I'm at work), what's the gaijin count on the list?
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#8 Posted on 1.8.02 1354.13
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Here are the American ladies (at least the ones that I caught, I dont think I missed any)

47 Bionic J
55 Malia Hosaka
60 Cheerleader Melissa
64 Molly Holly
66 Leilani Kai
72 Miss Natural
76 Heather Savage
80 Mercedes Martinez
83 Little Jeanie
89 Trish Stratus
93 Amber Holly
94 GEE STAR
97 Rain
99 Taylor Matheny
100 Mighty Heidi

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#9 Posted on 1.8.02 1410.25
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>>In each profile, it has the wrestlers' blood type. Is this for instant arena transfusions or what?<<

It's a common Japanese belief that blood type is somehow tied into your personality. You'll find it in manga and anime a lot as well.
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#10 Posted on 1.8.02 1427.43
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MOLLY ONLY 64? :(
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#11 Posted on 1.8.02 1507.55
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Well, she _is_ the highest-ranked female wrestler that 95% of the readers of this board have ever heard of. It's not like she's #64 and Torrie Wilson is #8, or something like that. Just sayin'.

She's up from #92 last time around and #89 the version before that, so there is progress. (Jazz was the other WWF representative last time, at #96, and it's hard to say if she'd have stuck around had she not been injured.) Trish has clawed her way onto this version of the list, and if you'd told me a year ago that _that_ would happen, I would've laughed out loud.

Molly at 64 is less of a denigration of Molly than a statement of how good most of the other 63 have been.

EDIT: (Whoops -- missed a WWF woman on the last version. Jackie was #84.)

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#12 Posted on 1.8.02 1628.02
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I'm amazed the first "How low is Molly?" post was only #10.

Having not watching joshi on a regular basis since the peak of AJW and Toyota, I don't even know most of the names on the list anymore.

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#13 Posted on 1.8.02 1642.36
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Query: how can booking style affect these ratings? One can't help but think that the WWE women are severely hampered by the current WWE booking style, while the joshi in Japan are greatly enhanced by it. Man, Cheerleader Melissa over Molly...

I also heard that some circuits in Japan are going for a more Americanized style. Will it greatly hurt the wrestlers in the Land of the Rising Sun in terms of performance? I read some of the recent Toyota matches, and they read ugly, not Trish-Jackie ugly, but ugly nonetheless.

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#14 Posted on 2.8.02 1013.22
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The booking style doesn't affect them directly. One can be a great wrestler in a stupid gimmick, or when horribly misbooked. (For example, Joey Abs of the Mean Street Posse was in the top 50 for several DVD500s in a row, solely based on his indy work.)

The trick is that Joey was putting on great matches outside the WWE, and the WWE women typically aren't. It's all about the ringwork. Hence, their body of work to be considered consists mostly of once-a-week three-minute matches and an occasional PPV appearance, being compared to joshi clubbing each other into goo for half an hour with higher-impact moves.

If Molly and Trish did a tour in GAEA and performed well, they'd likely shoot up the rankings. There's certainly plenty of room on the list. But they won't go top 10 simply because they're _capable_ of great matches; those matches have to be actually happening in that six-month span, and that's much harder to pull off in the WWE environment.

I haven't seen Cheerleader Melissa myself.
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#15 Posted on 2.8.02 1810.14
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I have seem Melissa in action from her days in All Pro Wrestling (a very good mat work league with some flying). She took on one of the male trainers in one match, and was in a mixed tag match too. In the second match her partner, a big guy who wasn't too keen in putting anybody but himself over, betrayed her and did some wicked faceplants. She took all the moves very well without crying once, and managed some decent offense too. I also saw pictures of her doing suicide twist planchas on three to five people on the floor(!). Even I went whoa. I don't plug sites too often, but any site that shows entire matches online is all right im my book.

http://www.allprowrestling.com/



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#16 Posted on 2.8.02 2305.14
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Fuck Dean, where is the love for Moolah and Mae Young, seriously. Can any of these women bump like these two can. Mae Young took a powerbomb off the stage through a table last year and got the shaft, and look at the bumping they did on Raw. Not to mention they should score points with you for being LESBIANS.
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#17 Posted on 3.8.02 1746.49
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Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco:Fuck Dean, where is the love for Moolah and Mae Young, seriously. Can any of these women bump like these two can. Mae Young took a powerbomb off the stage through a table last year and got the shaft, and look at the bumping they did on Raw.

DR: That's just stuntwork. Ya gotta be in actual matches.

BDL: Not to mention they should score points with you for being LESBIANS.

DR: Ya know, I would MODESTLY conjecture that 40 of the 100 on the list are women who join other women in a celebration of their mutual womanliness...

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#18 Posted on 4.8.02 0118.58
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Wow I am just shocked (and pleased) that Trish Stratus made this list of Japanese wrestling worshippers top women (if that sounded sarcastic, I didn't mean it to be) LOL.

On a more interesting note 40% have "special friendship" with there fellow women. Now that's interesting =) You know I heard a rumor that... Naa I can't do it I can't defame there names on something as legit as a messageboard. Because as a poster I have a special responsibility
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#19 Posted on 4.8.02 0123.20
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Are these 'special relationships' well known in Japan? And do the joshi show it in creative ways, since PDAs are generally discouraged there? Or are the gestures as broad as Billy, Chuck and Rico?
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#20 Posted on 4.8.02 0859.03
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Whether or not you consider the gestures to be broad is largely dependent upon whether or not you think GAEA valet Police is female or not.

I should have popped into the chat Thursday to say THIS LIST HAS NO CREDIBILITY, but I was still holding out for Ran in the top 5, and lo and behold, there she is. Aside from not seeing Mei vs. Chikayo (working on that), I like the top 10. I would yell at someone for Bolshoi Ahead of Fujita, but then Scott told me he didn't go the extra mile for Ai, so I yelled at him. But Ran at 5 is good - what matches did the trick for y'all?
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