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The 7 - Basketball - David Stern melts down on Jim Rome
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#1 Posted on 13.6.12 1812.14
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Maybe asking if the lottery was fixed wasn't the brightest idea.

Jim Rome Asked David Stern About the NBA Lottery Being Fixed and Stern Responded, “Have you stopped beating your wife?” [UPDATE: Audio]


    David Stern is sick of being asked about whether or not the NBA draft lottery is rigged.

    It’s a legitimate question, of course – more than a handful of people I’ve talked to asked, “hmmm, wonder if Benson agreed to buy the hapless, talentless Hornets under the agreement that Stern deliver him a franchise player who could stir fan interest?” – but the NBA commish has had enough with the questions.

    Undaunted, Jim Rome asked Stern about the lottery this afternoon. In a mocking tone, Stern shot back, “have you stopped beating your wife?” as if to say that’s how much credibility the question has. It doesn’t appear as if Rome has ever had any such incident. The 1985 draft, though … conspiracy theories linger.


To be fair, Rome's question was idiotic. It's one thing to be a conspiracy theorist, but it's another to come right out and ask Stern that question. Did he honestly expect to hear, "Yes, it is rigged, why do you ask?" But Stern went into that interview knowing how much of a dope Jim Rome is. Why let it turn into a circus like that?
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#2 Posted on 13.6.12 1913.06
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"Have you stopped beating your wife?" is a ... weird comeback.

Perhaps Rome has some sort of spousal abuse history that I am not aware of (although the article suggests this is not the case), but that sort of outburst is going to bite Stern in the ass harder than any lottery-fixing allegations, I imagine.
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#3 Posted on 13.6.12 1948.47
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Its in reference to a straw man argument. I do love how ESPN is burying the line on their website. Rome's question while aimed at the conspiracy fans is also a question fans had as well. Yeah, Stern was never going to come out and say it, but Rome, who I admit is a complete total Asshole, had every right to ask the question. Stern was fine with saying No, maybe a little oversensitive Daddy with the "Shame on you". He should have just said No again to Rome's follow up and either walk out or waited for Rome to move on. This looks like Rome hit a nerve and the conspiracy guys will think it has to do with him getting too close to the truth for Stern's liking.
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#4 Posted on 13.6.12 2053.28
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    Originally posted by lotjx
    Its in reference to a straw man argument.

It doesn't really fit. The point of "Have you stopped beating your wife?" is that there's no right way to answer it, because it presupposes something. Both a yes and a no answer imply that you have in fact been beating your wife.
Rome's question was nothing like that. In fact Stern answered it with "No, and shame on you for asking." It does get pretty stupid when Rome admits about 2 minutes in that he doesn't think it was fixed. If you don't think it's fixed, then why ask the question, except to create controversy? Stern got a nice dig in later with "That's not a question that I've been asked before by a respectable journalist", implying that he doesn't put Rome in that group (and rightfully so).
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#5 Posted on 14.6.12 0845.22
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    Originally posted by Mr. Boffo
      Originally posted by lotjx
      Its in reference to a straw man argument.

    It doesn't really fit. The point of "Have you stopped beating your wife?" is that there's no right way to answer it, because it presupposes something. Both a yes and a no answer imply that you have in fact been beating your wife.

Both you and lotjx are right. Stern used that somewhat well-known quip but he used it incorrectly. So, if you understood the roots of the quip, you're left thinking, "Silly David Stern, you used it wrong." If you DIDN'T understand, you probably started googling Jim Rome's police record. It would have made sense if Rome asked, "When did you start fixing the draft?" or something similar.
    Originally posted by Mr. Boffo
    It does get pretty stupid when Rome admits about 2 minutes in that he doesn't think it was fixed. If you don't think it's fixed, then why ask the question, except to create controversy?

Isn't this a very common interview technique? Whether or not Rome believed it's rigged is not entirely relevant. What is relevant is that thousands upon thousands of people DO think it's rigged. Thus, the question is worth asking, if only to get a straightforward answer, direct from the horse's mouth.

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#6 Posted on 14.6.12 1126.33
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    Originally posted by StingArmy

      Originally posted by Mr. Boffo
      It does get pretty stupid when Rome admits about 2 minutes in that he doesn't think it was fixed. If you don't think it's fixed, then why ask the question, except to create controversy?

    Isn't this a very common interview technique? Whether or not Rome believed it's rigged is not entirely relevant. What is relevant is that thousands upon thousands of people DO think it's rigged. Thus, the question is worth asking, if only to get a straightforward answer, direct from the horse's mouth.
Because so many people do think the draft (and the NBA in general) is sometimes rigged, I agree that you have to ask SOMETHING. But if you want a real response (truthful or not), given Stern's stick-up-my-butt over-sensitivity to tough questions, I think Rome asked the wrong question. Dan Patrick explained it really well this morning. I think the idea should be to get Stern to discuss the issue in general, but the "yes-or-no" question Rome gave him wasnt the best way to do it.
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#7 Posted on 16.6.12 1514.44
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The 1985 NBA Draft Lottery, when the Knicks' envelope was bent, was the most-obvious rig job ever, and it landed the Knicks Patrick Ewing.

Today's method would make it virtually impossible to rig, I would think. Besides, people would be making this argument if four other teams had won it, too.
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#8 Posted on 16.6.12 2328.25
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You could always answer "I don't beat my wife, asshole."
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