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#1 Posted on 24.7.02 1209.46
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These helmets are weird looking. A black scheme that doesn't come off too well. I still don't know why the hell the Texans couldn't be the Oilers.
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#2 Posted on 24.7.02 1226.46
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I think Bud Adams still owns the name Oilers and helmets and home unis are Navy or Dark Blue not Black but from far away it almost looks black.
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#3 Posted on 24.7.02 1251.19
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They are Navy Blue...... good call man. I still wish they could be the Oilers.... who knows though, the Texans could quickly rise like the Ravens?
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#4 Posted on 24.7.02 1252.57
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Bud wanted to stick it to the city of Houston again for not giving into him and building him a new stadium.

Have had a Navy Blue Texans hat since the day they unveiled the logo two years ago - people thought they were an XFL team at first. I think it is one of the better logos out there these days.
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#5 Posted on 25.7.02 0031.27
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The team name Oilers was offically retired by the NFL.

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#6 Posted on 25.7.02 1152.34
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    Originally posted by rikidozan
    The team name Oilers was offically retired by the NFL.




Just another middle finger the NFL gives to Baltimore. The league could never be bothered to do anything for Baltimore when dickhead Irsay stole the Colts out of town. Then they spared the name "Cleveland Browns" and retired "Houston Oilers" after the franchise free-agency of 95-99 started up because the owners dropped the ball and awarded the two expansion franchises to Jacksonville and Charlotte instead of the more deserving Baltimore and St. Louis(two cities who have won the Super Bowl in the last three years; hmm...)
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#7 Posted on 25.7.02 1308.59
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But, in all fairness, neither of those two teams really deserved the championships that they won, especially, Baltimore, since they stolea team right out from a lot of fans. I can't speak for the LA Rams, I don't know what that situation was like. Lastly, I'm not sure that St Louis and Baltimore were really deserving, since they both lost franchises that were originally awarded to them.

To the best of my knowledge, a city has only regained a team after losing it in football four times (and now 5 times). Besides St Louis and Baltimore, only Cleveland, Oakland, and now Houston have regained teams. Oakland wooed back the team who realized it could have done well in its original home, and Cleveland and Houston were awarded new expansion franchises while the wounds of the moves were still in place. If Art Model shows his face on a Cleveland street (or Paul Brown, for that matter), there's a good chance that said man will be killed. Such was the bitterness over that dealing.

Baltimore proved that it couldn't keep football teams, even championship football teams, from the CFL debaucle. And as much as I hate the crap that went on over the naming rights, I don't believe that anyone from Baltimore really has any right to complain about anything football related ever again.

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#8 Posted on 25.7.02 1320.41
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Anyone remember the Baltimore CFL's



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#9 Posted on 25.7.02 1443.42
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    Originally posted by chazerizer
    But, in all fairness, neither of those two teams really deserved the championships that they won, especially, Baltimore, since they stolea team right out from a lot of fans. I can't speak for the LA Rams, I don't know what that situation was like. Lastly, I'm not sure that St Louis and Baltimore were really deserving, since they both lost franchises that were originally awarded to them.

    To the best of my knowledge, a city has only regained a team after losing it in football four times (and now 5 times). Besides St Louis and Baltimore, only Cleveland, Oakland, and now Houston have regained teams. Oakland wooed back the team who realized it could have done well in its original home, and Cleveland and Houston were awarded new expansion franchises while the wounds of the moves were still in place. If Art Model shows his face on a Cleveland street (or Paul Brown, for that matter), there's a good chance that said man will be killed. Such was the bitterness over that dealing.

    Baltimore proved that it couldn't keep football teams, even championship football teams, from the CFL debaucle. And as much as I hate the crap that went on over the naming rights, I don't believe that anyone from Baltimore really has any right to complain about anything football related ever again.

    Go Steelers



There is so much silliness here that I can't even begin to get started. I'm not sure what CFL debacle you're talking about; the Stallions won the Grey Cup in 1995, the Ravens arrived in 1996. It just wasn't going to work anymore because the fans(rightfully so) dropped the Stallions like a bad habit after the announcement of the move.

I'd like to remind you, however, that the only reason the Browns left Cleveland was because Modell couldn't get a new stadium. I'm not saying the team should have left Cleveland, but Indianapolis should never have stolen OUR team in the first place. Why is it, in your eyes, ok for Baltimore to have its team stolen by that dickhead Irsay, but a moral sin for Cleveland to lose it's team? Baltimore didn't get the special treatment that Houston and Cleveland did. Neither did St. Louis. Neither has LA. And neither will San Diego, Indianapolis, or Phoenix when one of those teams bolts for LA.

You're argument that Baltimore can't team teams is inanely ridiculous. But you're right, we can't complain too much anymore now that we have our own Super Bowl Championship again(more than Oakland, Tennesee, Indianapolis, Cleveland, Carolina, Jacksonville, Arizona, Los Angeles, or Houston have had in the last 20 years.)

P.S. For Iceman: The Baltimore CFL's happened because that dickhead Irsay sued Jim Speros(owner of the team) because the team was using the name Baltimore CFL Colts and bitched to the court that people could confuse the CFL Colts with the NFL Colts. CFL Colts was a stopgap measure, Stallions was picked in the offseason, and the team was off to Montreal with the arrival of the Ravens.
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#10 Posted on 25.7.02 1745.36
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Here's an old-time Baw-more reference...

Remember Chris Thomas, the back-up sportscaster on Channel 11? He had a huge Irsay doll (can't remember if it was inflatable or stuff) that he would do bad things to.

That was so kla-sic.

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#11 Posted on 25.7.02 2352.08
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also, around 95-96, the CFL moved or "contracted" all the american teams

edit, here's the quote from the nfl.com history page about the oilers name

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1998
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Tennessee Oilers owner Bud Adams announced the team will change its name to the Tennessee Titans following the 1998 season. The NFL announced that the name Oilers will be retired-a first in league history, November 14.

here's a breif history of the Texans:

1952
Ted Collins sold the New York Yanks' franchise back to the NFL, January 19. A new franchise was awarded to a group in Dallas after it purchased the assets of the Yanks, January 24. The new Texans went 1-11, with the owners turning the franchise back to the league in midseason. For the last five games of the season, the commissioner's office operated the Texans as a road team, using Hershey, Pennsylvania, as a home base. At the end of the season the franchise was canceled, the last time an NFL team failed.

1953
A Baltimore group headed by Carroll Rosenbloom was granted a franchise and was awarded the holdings of the defunct Dallas organization, January 23. The team, named the Colts, put together the largest trade in league history, acquiring 10 players from Cleveland in exchange for five.

1960
Hunt was elected AFL president for 1960, January 26. Minneapolis withdrew from the AFL, January 27, and the same ownership was given an NFL franchise for Minnesota (to start in 1961), January 28. Dallas received an NFL franchise for 1960, January 28. Oakland received an AFL franchise, January 30.

1962
The Dallas Texans defeated the Oilers 20-17 for the AFL championship at Houston after 17 minutes, 54 seconds of overtime on a 25-yard field goal by Tommy Brooker, December 23. The game lasted a record 77 minutes, 54 seconds.

1963
The Dallas Texans transferred to Kansas City, becoming the Chiefs, February 8. The New York Titans were sold to a five-man syndicate headed by David (Sonny) Werblin, March 28. Weeb Ewbank became the Titans' new head coach and the team's name was changed to the Jets, April 15. They began play in Shea Stadium

2001
NFL owners unanimously approved a realignment plan for the league starting in 2002. With the addition of the Houston Texans, the league's 32 teams will be divided into eight four-team divisions. Seven clubs change divisions, and the Seattle Seahawks change conferences, moving from the AFC to the NFC. A new scheduling format ensures that every team meets every other team in the league at least once every four years, May 22.

interesting.

The 50's Texans became the Baltimore/Indy Colts
The 60's Texans became the Kansas City Cheifs





(edited by rikidozan on 26.7.02 0125)

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#12 Posted on 26.7.02 0557.38
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    Originally posted by odessasteps

    Here's an old-time Baw-more reference...

    Remember Chris Thomas, the back-up sportscaster on Channel 11? He had a huge Irsay doll (can't remember if it was inflatable or stuff) that he would do bad things to.

    That was so kla-sic.




I remember that I was young when he left, but he was always great. Huge wrestling fan too; he did a big story on the 11 o'clock news when Hulk beat Andre at WM3.

And for full disclosure of the Texans stuff, the CFL team was known as the San Antonio Texans, there was an Arena League team known as the Dallas Texans in the early 90's.

(edited by Grimis on 26.7.02 0701)
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