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#1 Posted on 8.6.11 1737.02
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Well, Well, Well,

Well to those who say that things are fine and dandy under Obama may want to look again. Numbers are still dropping even after he killed Osama. Just sayin. Obama getting re-elected in 2012 may not be a piece a cake.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/06/08/cnn-poll-obama-approval-rating-drops-as-fears-of-depression-rise/


And this Wiener dude is not helping his(Obama) cause.
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#2 Posted on 8.6.11 1747.28
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The concerning part is not Obama's numbers, as national numbers have no bearing on a federal election. Rather, that nearly 50% think that another Great Depression is going to occur within the next year should be considered worrisome news for politicians and anyone who has two coins to scratch together in America. The bailouts only forestalled the mass purge in the municipal sector, as state and local governments were able to use federal dollars to keep people on the payroll for 2 extra years rather than making changes while the money was still around. Now, there is no stimulus money left, and the hard decisions must be made with no net. The public sector layoffs that could potentially occur in the next 3-6 months will be staggering. Since the private sector has been forced to learn how to survive on a streamlined system, there is no marketplace for these employees. It really can be argued that in many instances that technology has eliminated a vast sector of the workforce with no place for them to go.
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#3 Posted on 8.6.11 1837.45
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Its going to dip now and then. Last month he was 60%, next month he could be polling 35% in July and 75% in December. Polls don't matter til a few months before the election. 50% of Americans are terrified and irrational. Jobs are being created that is not going to plunge the country into a Great Depression. The jobs report for May blew no question about it, but jobs were created and not lost. To be fair, eventually this is going to fall on those new elected and already GOP Governors who are slashing government for the Tea Party. Then when they see their job approval plummet further then Obama, you will see more cries of we need more Fed money. You know the money most of them refused to take.

Romeny does have a lead in the polls through ABC, but the real mud has not thrown at Romney. I am talking about the GOP debates. He also signed his death warrant according to Rush by pushing for me EPA regulations. So, I think Obama is still a 55% chance of happening probably more so if its Palin or Bauchman or Paul.
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#4 Posted on 9.6.11 0721.42
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Now, in this poll he holds a 13 point lead over Romney and his approval is 50%. So, again its going to be more of who and where you ask. Yes, people are concerned and rightfully so about the economy, but they don't see the GOP field doing anything different at least in this poll.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/pl_nm/us_usa_campaign_poll
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#5 Posted on 9.6.11 1109.10
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After Desert Storm, Bush the elders ratings were through the roof. I believe he lost about a year later with an opponent with the mantra "It's the economy stupid!"

Pols take too much credit when things are great and too much credit when things go wrong.
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#6 Posted on 12.6.11 2210.52
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If the GOP front-runners actually posed a threat, I'd agree that Obama's 2012 re-election may be in serious jeopardy. But Sarah Palin is batshit crazy, and everyone knows it. And with all due respect to Mitt Romney, I don't see a Mormon being elected president-- he certainly wouldn't get a lot of votes in the South, and if a GOP candidate can't win the South, he's dead in the water.
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#7 Posted on 12.6.11 2233.46
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    Originally posted by ekedolphin
    If the GOP front-runners actually posed a threat, I'd agree that Obama's 2012 re-election may be in serious jeopardy. But Sarah Palin is batshit crazy, and everyone knows it. And with all due respect to Mitt Romney, I don't see a Mormon being elected president-- he certainly wouldn't get a lot of votes in the South, and if a GOP candidate can't win the South, he's dead in the water.


This. 100% this.

If ever the Democrats were ripe to the killing, it would be now. But there is no one who can step up, grab the mic and say "MY TURN" and not be insane. And so help, me, if another person says to me Sarah Palin, I am going to go insane. Her ignorance is one thing, it is the arrogance that gets me.
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#8 Posted on 12.6.11 2240.58
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I don't know about the rest of the south, but I'm pretty sure the Antichrist would win here in Alabama if he was the GOP nominee (people would justify their vote as the 'lesser of two evils').

As far as Palin, I'm almost certain she is not running. And I'm not sure she deserves all the attention she gets as long as her only job is Fox News pundit.
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#9 Posted on 12.6.11 2301.55
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I thought Newt Gingrich would be the front-runner among the Republicans, but the latest Pew Research poll has him with 38% of likely Republican voters who know of him saying there's no chance they would vote for him. Palin had 39% and Paul had 42% unfavorable among the same likely Republican voters.
Those polled said the things that would make them less likely to support a candidate were in order, if the candidate did not believe in god (which no serious candidate would say publicly), had an extramartial affair (oh, that's why the negatives for Newt, because he's done that twice), has never held elected office (Herman Cain), is a homosexual (which again, no major candidate is going to say in this political climate), is a Mormon (obviously Mitt), used marijuana in the past (Rick Santorum, Gary Johnson, Newt Gingrich, Sarh Palin), been divorced (Newt again, Gary Johnson), and is Hispanic.
The biggest positive among voters is apparently if the candidate has been in the military, which only includes Ron Paul among viable Republican candidates at the moment.
http://people-press.org/2011/06/02/republican-candidates-stir-little-enthusiasm/
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#10 Posted on 12.6.11 2353.27
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I agree with most of the above and do not see the Republicans with a decent candidate right now. I am hoping Texas Governor Rick Perry runs. He's got pretty strong conservative ideas. Very much the conservative flag waver that Palin is among the base, but with more experience. His state is doing quite well financially (of course, they have oil), and in the last election, every newspaper endorsed his opponent and he won easily anyway.

Of course, he's from Texas and I understand the "tired of texas" mentality and also some of his closest supporters talked a lot about secession a few years back.

But he's my choice if he runs.

But, like those guys in Alabama, I'll vote for whoever is the Republican Nominee in the general.

(edited by AWArulz on 13.6.11 1532)
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#11 Posted on 13.6.11 0553.41
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You would seriously vote for Sarah Palin to run the most powerful country on Earth?
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#12 Posted on 13.6.11 0630.15
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    Originally posted by AWArulz
    I agree with most of the above and do not see the Republicans with a decent candidate right now. I am hoping Texas Governor Rick Perry runs. He's got pretty strong conservative ideas. Very much the conservative flag waver that Palin is among the base, but with more experience. His state is doing quite well financially (of course, they have oil), and in the last election, every newspaper endorsed his opponent and he won easily anyway.


Rick Perry? The guy who advocated succession for Texas from the Union? Him?
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#13 Posted on 13.6.11 0720.09
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The staff exodus from Newt has some people believing that it was done, because of Perry talking about running. If Perry runs, he can use the moral values speech that blew up in the GOP's face during the Clinton impeachment, but no one minus the neo-cons care about that right now. They want someone who can get them back to work and Perry going from a 3 billion to 23 billion deficit is probably not they guy you want. Also, with Ron Paul there, its going to divide part of Texas for him. You also have the fact that there are number of people in the GOP in Texas that hate the guys guts and while still being party loyal will find a way to screw him either in the primaries or the general election to make sure he loses.

I doubt the American people would elect a guy who the moment Obama was elected stated he was going to succeed from the Union and also from a state like Texas that is perceived to be the home of the worst Presidents in history. The succession thing is a noose around him like Palin quitting. Perry can motivate the value conservatives, but I think fiscal ones would rather vote for a guy who didn't just send in his state spiraling into debt after cutting education, government jobs and so on.
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#14 Posted on 13.6.11 0906.28
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    Originally posted by lotjx
    I doubt the American people would elect a guy who the moment Obama was elected stated he was going to succeed from the Union and also from a state like Texas that is perceived to be the home of the worst Presidents in history. The succession thing is a noose around him like Palin quitting. Perry can motivate the value conservatives, but I think fiscal ones would rather vote for a guy who didn't just send in his state spiraling into debt after cutting education, government jobs and so on.


I believe, being from the state, that Ohio holds the distinction of producing the worst presidents, not Texas. And the SECEDING from the union statements really wont matter.
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#15 Posted on 13.6.11 0913.13
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    Originally posted by AWArulz
    I agree with most of the above and do not see the Republicans with a decent candidate right now. I am hoping Texas Governor Rick Perry runs. He's got pretty strong conservative ideas. Very much the conservative flag waver that Palin is among the base, but with more experience. His state is doing quite well financially (of course, they have oil), and in the last election, every newspaper endorsed his opponent and he won easily anyway.

    Of course, he's from Texas and I understand the "tired of texas" mentality and also some of his closest supporters talked a lot about succession a few years back.

    But he's my choice if he runs.

    But, like those guys in Alabama, I'll vote for whoever is the Republican Nominee in the general.


Perry is George Bush Jr...uh Jr policy wise, except he's also shown he's a corrupt a-hole. I'd love for him to no longer be my Governor, but not at the cost of him being President. The comparisons to Bush will come flying if he runs and sink his chances.
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#16 Posted on 13.6.11 0950.39
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    Originally posted by DrDirt
      Originally posted by lotjx
      I doubt the American people would elect a guy who the moment Obama was elected stated he was going to succeed from the Union and also from a state like Texas that is perceived to be the home of the worst Presidents in history. The succession thing is a noose around him like Palin quitting. Perry can motivate the value conservatives, but I think fiscal ones would rather vote for a guy who didn't just send in his state spiraling into debt after cutting education, government jobs and so on.


    I believe, being from the state, that Ohio holds the distinction of producing the worst presidents, not Texas. And the SECEDING from the union statements really wont matter.


Yeah it will, because it shows he has no desire what so ever with working with anyone not in the GOP. To win the Presidency you can't just appeal to the base. You have to be broader then just being conservative. The very idea he would succeed from this country is about as traitorous as you can get. To be fair as soon as he made those comments, I would have had the Reserves capture his ass and send it to Gitmo, but I am a person who shouldn't be President. It will hang on him as well as the 23 billion dollar debt. LBJ and two Bushes counter anything Ohio has.

(edited by lotjx on 13.6.11 0951)
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#17 Posted on 13.6.11 1203.11
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    Originally posted by lotjx
      Originally posted by DrDirt
        Originally posted by lotjx
        I doubt the American people would elect a guy who the moment Obama was elected stated he was going to succeed from the Union and also from a state like Texas that is perceived to be the home of the worst Presidents in history. The succession thing is a noose around him like Palin quitting. Perry can motivate the value conservatives, but I think fiscal ones would rather vote for a guy who didn't just send in his state spiraling into debt after cutting education, government jobs and so on.


      I believe, being from the state, that Ohio holds the distinction of producing the worst presidents, not Texas. And the SECEDING from the union statements really wont matter.


    Yeah it will, because it shows he has no desire what so ever with working with anyone not in the GOP. To win the Presidency you can't just appeal to the base. You have to be broader then just being conservative. The very idea he would succeed from this country is about as traitorous as you can get. To be fair as soon as he made those comments, I would have had the Reserves capture his ass and send it to Gitmo, but I am a person who shouldn't be President. It will hang on him as well as the 23 billion dollar debt. LBJ and two Bushes counter anything Ohio has.

    (edited by lotjx on 13.6.11 0951)


I am not trolling but I am curious as to your visceral hate regarding the elder Bush and while LBJ has the albatross of Vietnam hanging around his neck, from 1964-1966, he managed to accomplish several major feats. While Bush the elder wasn't a top ten president, he was competent and overall did an adequate job.
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#18 Posted on 13.6.11 1206.16
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    Originally posted by lotjx
    The very idea he would succeed from this country is about as traitorous as you can get.

I like how DrDirt passive-aggressively corrected you and yet you still wrote the wrong word a second time.

And I really don't get the sense from the general public that they think the Republicans are responsible for the problems because they won't work with the Democrats. Granted, I live in a state that voted out one of the greatest recent progressive US Senators for some douchebag business owner.
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#19 Posted on 13.6.11 1423.02
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want to identify the 23 billion in debt he created?

I don't find it.

Here's what I found - Governor since 2000

from 2008 to 2010, as California lost 1.2 million jobs, Texas added 165,000.

the state Senate passed $23 billion in cuts, and the state house $11 billion

(reference is here: http://lubbockonline.com/​interact/​blog-​post/​may/​2011-​05-​23/​will-​rick-​perry-​be-​next-​presidential-​candidate)

Texas GDP grew 2.8% in 2010. Of course, other states went up more, some less. New York, because the financial industry has recovered, went up a lot for example.

(reference: http://www.ocregister.com/​articles/​year-​303526-​gdp-​state.html)

according to this chart - http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/​downchart_​gs.php?​year=1992_​2015&​units=p&​state=TX&​chart=H0-​statelocal&​local=c

Texas had a percentage of GDP debt of about 14% when he took over in 2000, dropped it for a bit, then it went up after 9/11 to around 20% at the height of the recession and it is again dropping.

Just to compare, NY, other than 1 year, is around 24-25%, California is about the same as texas, so is illinois.

I'm fairly sure no one who's not Barack Obama fits your little bill anyway.

Oh, yeah, let's talk about Perry saying he would secede from the Union. When was that?

Here's the actual story. See if you can find the place where Perry suggested Texas secede from the union

    Originally posted by Foxnews story

    An animated Perry told the crowd at Austin City Hall -- one of three tea parties he was attending across the state -- that officials in Washington have abandoned the country's founding principles of limited government. He said the federal government is strangling Americans with taxation, spending and debt.

    Perry repeated his running theme that Texas' economy is in relatively good shape compared with other states and with the "federal budget mess." Many in the crowd held signs deriding President Barack Obama and the $786 billion federal economic stimulus package.

    Later, answering news reporters' questions, Perry suggested Texans might at some point get so fed up they would want to secede from the union, though he said he sees no reason why Texas should do that.

    "There's a lot of different scenarios," Perry said. "We've got a great union. There's absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that. But Texas is a very unique place, and we're a pretty independent lot to boot."

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/04/15/governor-says-texans-want-secede-union-probably-wont#ixzz1PBalAAqa





(edited by AWArulz on 13.6.11 1529)
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#20 Posted on 13.6.11 1437.32
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There's a lot of different scenarios," Perry said. "We've got a great union. There's absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that. But Texas is a very unique place, and we're a pretty independent lot to boot."

Sounds like succession to me as well as a threat. Also, AWA, I think your stats maybe since this was the last paragraph of that article:

"Rick Perry would make an excellent candidate for President of the United States in 2012. Perry has served us well as Governor of Texas. Perry could very well be the candidate that the Republicans have been waiting for."


No biased there.
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