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| #1 Posted on 11.7.02 1813.11 Reposted on: 11.7.09 1816.13 | from 411wrestling.com:
Just when you thought the Steve Austin story was over...
The next issue of RAW Magazine will feature a story on the entire Austin situation, and word going around is that the story is extremely anti-Austin. The cover will feature Austin in his "What?" t-shirt, but instead of "What?" it will say "Why?". Just to make things worse, the story will also mention the beating incident involving Austin and Debra shortly after Austin's walk out.
Apparently Vince McMahon is still very upset about how Austin left and is doing what he can to bury him.
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| #2 Posted on 11.7.02 1844.08 Reposted on: 11.7.09 1850.45 | It's very marketable to both marks who want the whole story, and smarts who want the WWE spin on the story.
And, in my opinion, it's not as if Austin doesn't deserve it.
-K | CajunMan
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| #3 Posted on 11.7.02 1848.32 Reposted on: 11.7.09 1857.23 | If I remember correctly, they did this to Bret too after Montreal. Bret has not returned either. | Enojado Viento
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| #4 Posted on 11.7.02 2014.34 Reposted on: 11.7.09 2018.49 | Yeah it may be marketable and all, but isn't it just so easy to go after someone who walked out instead of cleaning your own house?
If they exerted half as much effort on making RAW and Smackdown must-see shows again as they do burying people on the way out, they might be able to make enough forward progress as to where they wouldn't NEED to acknowledge Austin one way or the other.
There's no one in the right in this, but the WWE could show a little class and leave the whole sorry mess alone.
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| #5 Posted on 11.7.02 2024.39 Reposted on: 11.7.09 2024.52 |
Originally posted by Enojado Viento Yeah it may be marketable and all, but isn't it just so easy to go after someone who walked out instead of cleaning your own house?
You make it sound like they are more worried about the Austin situation then the shows. It's not like they are saying "The shows are fine, let's not worry about that. Let's make fun of Austin." They are doing both of your above choices. And it's notl ike the people who write RAW and Smackdown are the same people who put segments together on Confidential or write for their magazines. | Enojado Viento
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| #6 Posted on 11.7.02 2033.51 Reposted on: 11.7.09 2038.07 |
Originally posted by TheBucsFan
Originally posted by Enojado Viento Yeah it may be marketable and all, but isn't it just so easy to go after someone who walked out instead of cleaning your own house?
You make it sound like they are more worried about the Austin situation then the shows. It's not like they are saying "The shows are fine, let's not worry about that. Let's make fun of Austin." They are doing both of your above choices. And it's notl ike the people who write RAW and Smackdown are the same people who put segments together on Confidential or write for their magazines.
I dunno, if I were the WWE folks I might, you know, put an ACTIVE guy on the cover, preferably someone up and coming, and maybe try to build some interest in what's going on on TV now.
I dunno, crazy idea. Smarks all over the world should get a huge laugh over the fact that Austin isn't even IN the damn fed anymore and he's still holding people down.
I don't deny what he did was wrong--the walkout and the wifebeating both. I object to wasting trees wallowing in it because Vince can't get over that his boy took a walk. Build the next big thing, don't whine abour your wounded pride in public.
What's wrong with just moving forward, leaving Confidential as the last WWE word on the subject and moving on? I realise there's still a lot of interest, but the best thing for everyone concerned would be to let it lie.
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| #7 Posted on 11.7.02 2051.06 Reposted on: 11.7.09 2051.56 | You put "WWE" and "class" in the same sentence?! What a mistake. I'm surprised the smear campaign didn't start sooner.
Instead of using airtime to bag on a guy for hurting the boss' feelings, they should focus on making ALL the shows better. Personally, I'm not even disappointed about them going after Austin, I just wish they'd stop wasting time on issues they don't have any control over.
SmooveK - "And, in my opinion, it's not as if Austin doesn't deserve it."
If you think he deserved it because he slapped Debra... Sure, what goes around comes around, and he's getting slapped around by the media in return. I can dig that. If you're saying he deserves it for walking out on Vince... FUCK that. Bottom line, he wasn't happy with the situation, he wasn't interested in talking (after hearing about and witnessing Vince's bullshit over the years), and he decided to bail. He's not a slave (despite the contract) and can walk if he's willing to pay the consequences, just like any of us can walk away from our jobs IF we're willing to face any repercussions.
The only thing that pisses me off is that he let the stress get him to the point where instead of going out for a beer, he slapped his wife. I'm all about women's lib, but I'm still too old school to condone hitting a woman unless she's pointing a gun at you or a loved one (then all bets are off!). | BobHollySTILLRules
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| #8 Posted on 11.7.02 2107.45 Reposted on: 11.7.09 2111.05 | Yeah, the company has no right to hate on him for walking out. (sighs)
Anyway, who CARES who's on the cover of WWE Magazine. Torrie Wilson's on the cover now. OOOOHHHH! Give HER a title shot. I don't know who the hell is on the cover 90% of the time anyway. It doesn't matter. They're trying to sell magazines just like any other publication in the world. It's not like Austin was some model citizen. You can't even compare him to Bret. I side with Vince in that argument too, but Bret didn't just walk out, Austin did. You can be unhappy all you want, he signed the contract, period. I doubt all those guys are happy all the time, should they just walk out. If Jim Thome is mad because the Indians product isn't very good right now, should he just go home? Austin didn't even asked to be traded! | OlFuzzyBastard
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| #9 Posted on 11.7.02 2139.09 Reposted on: 11.7.09 2139.26 | Aw, the poor multi-millionaire wifebeater... I feel so sorry for poor ol' Stone Cold. | ges7184
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| #10 Posted on 11.7.02 2218.49 Reposted on: 11.7.09 2218.49 | The person on the cover is chosen based on what the magazine editors think will sell magazines. It's not about getting people over, building interest, it's about selling magazines, and thus making money. Austin, and that story, will probably accomplish just that.
Besides, I doubt putting people on the cover of magazines will get them over. I think you get them over, then you put them on the cover of the magazine, so you can sell them. | Enojado Viento
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| #11 Posted on 11.7.02 2229.33 Reposted on: 11.7.09 2232.42 | I don't think so--I think it's all part of the same publicity machine. It won't GET people over but it can help.
The real barometer of how over you are, I'd imagine is how many different T-shirts they've done about you. | CajunMan
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| #12 Posted on 12.7.02 0132.29 Reposted on: 12.7.09 0135.16 |
Originally posted by BobHollySTILLRules Yeah, the company has no right to hate on him for walking out. (sighs)
Anyway, who CARES who's on the cover of WWE Magazine. Torrie Wilson's on the cover now. OOOOHHHH! Give HER a title shot. I don't know who the hell is on the cover 90% of the time anyway. It doesn't matter. They're trying to sell magazines just like any other publication in the world. It's not like Austin was some model citizen. You can't even compare him to Bret. I side with Vince in that argument too, but Bret didn't just walk out, Austin did. You can be unhappy all you want, he signed the contract, period. I doubt all those guys are happy all the time, should they just walk out. If Jim Thome is mad because the Indians product isn't very good right now, should he just go home? Austin didn't even asked to be traded!
I agree BHSTR, If you were an Employer and your Employee who you created to superstar status from a jobber(Stunning Steve in WCW) decided to quit on you without explanation face to face, would you care? Would you blow it off? Would you defend yourself such as TV shows and magazines as Vince is doing>? Enough Said! | Freeway
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| #13 Posted on 12.7.02 0311.43 Reposted on: 12.7.09 0329.01 | McMahon 3:16 says "Don't cross the boss."
If I just told my boss that I quit, took "my ball" and went home...he'd bitch me out to anybody who'd listen. It's pride. McMahon's pride was hurt, so this way he can regain some pride by burying Austin...AND make a whole load of cash, too! | Mild Mannered Madman
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| #14 Posted on 12.7.02 0337.32 Reposted on: 12.7.09 0353.57 |
Originally posted by CajunMan I agree BHSTR, If you were an Employer and your Employee who you created to superstar status from a jobber(Stunning Steve in WCW) decided to quit on you without explanation face to face, would you care? Would you blow it off? Would you defend yourself such as TV shows and magazines as Vince is doing>? Enough Said!
"Stunning" Steve Austin had the longest ever TV title reign back when the belt actually meant something. He was also a tag champion and U.S. champ. Jobber, he wasn't.
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| #15 Posted on 12.7.02 0529.59 Reposted on: 12.7.09 0534.27 | First of all, yes putting him on the cover and running the article with the true story will sell issues because people want to know the 'truth'.
Why wouldn't they mention him beating Debra? It happened, just like him being irrational and walking out and stuff. And it is part of the drama. It's perhaps even the biggest proof WWE has that Austin has demons or trouble with the world or whatever you wanna call it.
Who says they will destroy him in the magazine? Sure they will give a one sided look on the story but it might have more truth than we imagine. Did the confidential piece lie to us, did it tell us that Austin is the devil? No, and this article might be just about the same..
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