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#1 Posted on 8.7.02 2148.13
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I believe the women's division has been one of the best things about WWE recently. And I also believe that Jackie was the right pick to win Tough Enough.

But I think she just bought a one-way ticket to Ohio Valley Wrestling. What the hell happened?
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#2 Posted on 8.7.02 2154.08
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I know, she made Trish miss 4 moves I think. Missing the bulldog at the end was the one that stood out most thought.
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#3 Posted on 8.7.02 2207.42
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I haven't seen Raw yet, but I am so looking forward to seeing that mess!

One way ticket to OVW...she should have been there to begin with!


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#4 Posted on 8.7.02 2224.28
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You know it's bad when JR busts out the bowling shoe ugly line...
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#5 Posted on 8.7.02 2238.31
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I don't know whose fault all that crap was. Trish tried that "Off the Ropes-drop toe hold", and was so off that it wasn't funny and the Bulldog seemed like Trish was too high in the air to do it.

But the other botched moves were definitely Jackie's fault. It is sad when JR doesn't even TRY to cover for mistakes in the ring. I felt like she needed to go to OVW anyway. I felt like it was too soon to have her on WWE TV.
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#6 Posted on 8.7.02 2247.57
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She can't wrestle and she has no mic skills. I'm supposed to be Mr. Positivity and I see nothing that she contributes to these shows. Get her to OVW, ASAP, let Linda follow her too. They aren't ready yet. Hell, not even Maven started full-time from the get-go.
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#7 Posted on 8.7.02 2254.41
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    Originally posted by Iron Mike Sharpe
    You know it's bad when JR busts out the bowling shoe ugly line...


When JR gives the line "this match is mercifully over," somebody's not going to be seen on TV for a while.
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#8 Posted on 8.7.02 2256.27
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I'm thinking about the logic the WWE was supposedly using when it comes to these Tough Enough women. So...Nidia needed almost a year in OVW...yet Jackie goes straight to the big leagues and proceeds to blow her first big opportunity? Have we even SEEN Nidia wrestle yet?

Anyway, all logic aside (did that sound right?), we need to be patient with the Tough Enough women. After all, a couple of months ago, they were schlubs just like us. If anything, we should blame the higher-ups for bringing her up too soon. Jackie just needs more training.

I think it's time to lock her in a room with Fit Finlay for a week. That'll learn her!
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#9 Posted on 8.7.02 2257.47
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That last move was so awful, they really should have tried to ad-lib another finish. Of course, Trish looked so disgusted that I think she just wanted to end it.

(I guess I really don't know who's fault it was either. To my untrained eye, it looked like Jackie who was lost. But Trish may have been too high on the bulldog. I think maybe a Ivory or Molly would have covered it a little better than Jackie however.)

That said, I really don't see why she is not getting some work in at OVW (I'm almost wondering that the deal worked out with MTV the second time around called for Tough Enough winners to immediately be placed directly in WWE. Otherwise, I just can't see what makes Jackie and Linda better than Maven and Nidia in the eyes of Vince & Co.
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#10 Posted on 8.7.02 2300.24
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Can we lock her in a room with or without Fit Finlay and NEVER let her out???

I'm curious that if Jackie and Linda were so much better than Jake and Kenny, just how much did Jake and Kenny suck??? At least Nowinski is around to represent for the TE people (not that he isn't green in his own right...)

I don't want to see Jackie sent to OVW, I want to see her sent HOME.

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#11 Posted on 8.7.02 2300.32
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Good lord, that was brutal. They obviously want to push her, because she's from Tough Enough, and you know, pretty hot, but that will pretty much put the kibosh on that. Oof.
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#12 Posted on 8.7.02 2307.17
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I think the bulldog at the end was almost entirely Trish's fault. She barely touched Jackie and whooshed by her so fast, Jackie couldn't help but react the way she did. That was after Jackie made sure to set Trish up for the finish. Well, Jackie could have no sold it and did a Nelson-like "Ha-ha!", but then she's not Kevin Nash. It is very hard for the recipient of a move to time the fall when the attacker is behind her.

Almost the entire match was mistimed from the first minute when Trish--er, what in the blue hell was she doing on the ropes next to Jackie, having a Terri moment?
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#13 Posted on 8.7.02 2307.21
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Let's not throw stones at poor Jackie just yet. Remember that at this time last year, Trish was just as bad (if not WORSE) and look at her now. Now she's a world class wrestler. Give Jackie the same training and (maybe) someday everyone will forget that abomination of a match ever happened. It sure looks like she's willing to learn if Tough Enough 2 is any indication.
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#14 Posted on 8.7.02 2310.05
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Fine Jackie *MAY* be a great wrestler *SOMEDAY* but so could I and I don't see you people clamoring to get me to learn the craft live every Monday night on Raw.

As far as training, send her to OVW.

As far as me not liking her, send her home.
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#15 Posted on 8.7.02 2317.24
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Oh, btw there was no Molly directing traffic to the two. That was a big factor in the two messing up like that.
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#16 Posted on 8.7.02 2338.23
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    Originally posted by It's False
    I'm thinking about the logic the WWE was supposedly using when it comes to these Tough Enough women. So...Nidia needed almost a year in OVW...yet Jackie goes straight to the big leagues and proceeds to blow her first big opportunity? Have we even SEEN Nidia wrestle yet?

    Anyway, all logic aside (did that sound right?), we need to be patient with the Tough Enough women. After all, a couple of months ago, they were schlubs just like us. If anything, we should blame the higher-ups for bringing her up too soon. Jackie just needs more training.

    I think it's time to lock her in a room with Fit Finlay for a week. That'll learn her!



jackie is diva material, and nidia looks like she hit every branch when she fell down the ugly tree

just my opinion as a male
but i bet nidia is 10x better in the ring...

who is the worse wrestler, jackie, or Eric Watts, lol!
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#17 Posted on 8.7.02 2343.11
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At least they got the "you've won Tough Enough2" matches out of the way. Now send them down until they can put on a better match than Buff Bagwell.

I mean, that's a pretty low standard, come on!

I still think Jake would have won if he'd had bigger tits or messed around with Pete in the hot tub.

Later, Rudy
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#18 Posted on 8.7.02 2348.51
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Deadbeater, I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that a good chunk of the blame for this ugly match should go to Trish. I'm by no means saying Jackie is not at fault here, but to say it's ALL her fault, judging by how utterly lost and out of synch Trish looked, isn't at all fair. Share that blame 50-50, girls.

Maybe this means an actual program for Ivory against Molly now? Naaaaah, won't happen. :(
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#19 Posted on 8.7.02 2352.39
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You know... when they send down Molly for a few monthes for not being solid enough in the ring... and they let Jackie wrestle almost right away...
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#20 Posted on 9.7.02 0023.38
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I have to say, being a Jackie fan I was rather saddened by that performance tonight, even though JR did say about 3 times before the mess-ups that the TE people were green in the ring. It was still pretty bad. I wouldn't send her down to the minors just yet, cause like some are saying some of it MAY have been Trish's fault. But it will be interesting to see what happens. The next Ross report should shed more light on what will happen.

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