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#21 Posted on 19.5.10 0808.15
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    Originally posted by Alessandro


    Was there already a scene where Sideways Hurley became aware of the two realities, and I forgot about it, or was that just a teaser for the finale?



Hurley saw the 2 realities after his picnic with Dirty Libby
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#22 Posted on 19.5.10 0810.44
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    Originally posted by dunkndollaz
      Originally posted by Alessandro


      Was there already a scene where Sideways Hurley became aware of the two realities, and I forgot about it, or was that just a teaser for the finale?



    Hurley saw the 2 realities after his picnic with Dirty Libby


Crap, I did totally forget about it!

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#23 Posted on 19.5.10 0825.25
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    Originally posted by kentish
    Forgive me if it has already been discussed in previous threads, but why is the finale on Sunday and not it's regular Tuesday night slot? Seems odd.


Because the series finale of Lost is AN EVENT. A cultural milestone. The Superbowl is on a Sunday. Easter is on a Sunday. Thanksgiving is on a Sunday. (It isn't? Disregard.)

THIS SUNDAY, ABC invites one and all to gather with friends and loved ones, sit down in front of your high definition flatscreen TV, and experience the series finale of THE BIGGEST, GREATEST TELEVISION PROGRAM (ABOUT CASTAWAYS ON AN ISLAND) THERE EVER WAS OR EVER WILL BE!

You will thrill, cry, maybe laugh, and your minds will be blown as you experience everyone in your house who doesn't watch Lost talking over the program, bitching and moaning about how confused they are, before they go make noise in the other room, causing distraction after distraction.

SUNDAY! SUNDAY! SUNDAY! IT'S "THE END!"

(No, I don't work for ABC.)
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#24 Posted on 19.5.10 0918.18
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    Originally posted by Big Bad
    It can't be his real-world wife Sarah since otherwise there wouldn't have been the build-up to her identity.


Although Julie Bowen (the actress who played Sarah) was in Hawaii shooting episodes of Modern Family, in which she plays Claire Dunphy.

But I'm in agreement that it has to be a past "Lostie", since the suspense has been built up over her identity.
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#25 Posted on 19.5.10 0927.57
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    Originally posted by Big Bad
      Originally posted by odessasteps
        Originally posted by Big Bad
        Wait, so Kate was 'eliminated' as a candidate since she was a "mother" to Aaron? What about Sawyer and Kwon, who were actual parents? They were apparently still eligible. But I guess that doesn't matter since Jacob just offered Kate the job anyhow. That explanation didn't make a whole lot of sense. It didn't answer whatsoever What They Died For....I'm surprised one of the final four didn't say, "So yeah, why didn't you just tell us all of this when our plane crashed in the first place?"


      I think jacob, because of what happened to him, would not want to deprive a child of their mother.

      It might also explain why he seemingly picked lots of people with daddy issues, not mommy issues.


    Ohhh, good call. Wow, this actually explains a lot. Jacob is all about the mother-child dynamic, but not the father-child dynamic. (Also interesting to note that Smokey was open to manipulating the father-child dynamic, as when he took the guises of Christian and Alex.)



That's not true. Kate had father issues, he beat her mother and so she blew him up in a house.

I thought this was more to the point that as a mother Kate was no longer alone and was now responsible for someone else, so therefore she'd be less apt to stay/work on the island. He must have crossed her name off while she was off-island.

Michelle Rodriguez's appearance, albeit short, was still kind of a surprise to me. For a second I wasn't sure if that was really her or not.
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#26 Posted on 19.5.10 0942.45
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    Originally posted by John Orquiola
    THE BIGGEST, GREATEST TELEVISION PROGRAM (ABOUT CASTAWAYS ON AN ISLAND) THERE EVER WAS OR EVER WILL BE!


More than Return to Gilligan's Island? I don't think so!
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#27 Posted on 19.5.10 1030.05
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    Originally posted by John Orquiola
      Originally posted by kentish
      Forgive me if it has already been discussed in previous threads, but why is the finale on Sunday and not it's regular Tuesday night slot? Seems odd.


    Because the series finale of Lost is AN EVENT. A cultural milestone. The Superbowl is on a Sunday. Easter is on a Sunday. Thanksgiving is on a Sunday. (It isn't? Disregard.)

    THIS SUNDAY, ABC invites one and all to gather with friends and loved ones, sit down in front of your high definition flatscreen TV, and experience the series finale of THE BIGGEST, GREATEST TELEVISION PROGRAM (ABOUT CASTAWAYS ON AN ISLAND) THERE EVER WAS OR EVER WILL BE!

    You will thrill, cry, maybe laugh, and your minds will be blown as you experience everyone in your house who doesn't watch Lost talking over the program, bitching and moaning about how confused they are, before they go make noise in the other room, causing distraction after distraction.

    SUNDAY! SUNDAY! SUNDAY! IT'S "THE END!"

    (No, I don't work for ABC.)

When you put it that way, it makes perfect sense!
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#28 Posted on 19.5.10 1221.19
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I missed a good chunk of this episode because of Tornado Warnings on the screen from the National Weather Service. Obviously, that's more important...but by piecing together this thread, I apparently missed Richard vs. the Smoke Monster during this local blackout. Strange and eerie, because the Smoke Monster shares similar qualities with a tornado.

Jacob's fireside chat did almost thumped us over the head with how all of the characters were "LOST" in their lives before they crashed on the island.

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#29 Posted on 19.5.10 1318.32
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I was dead wrong on who rigged the plane with explosvies.

Does the reason Jacob gave for crossing off Kate’s name confirm for us that Jin was always the Kwon candidate? Does it also tell us the reason that Sun didn’t flash to 1977 from the Ajira flight?
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#30 Posted on 19.5.10 1507.55
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    Originally posted by CRZ

    I feel like this won't be wrapped up as tightly as I was expecting many episodes ago.

    (edited by CRZ on 18.5.10 2310)


That's exactly where I'm at after watching this episode. I really thought this whole thing was going to be tied up rather nicely a few weeks ago, I'm not sure I would have liked how they did or are going to do it, but it would have been something. Now I'm just thinking that there is way too much out there that has been tossed aside, forgotten about, or answered and I have forgotten about it.

I'm really getting the feeling that this is going to be a big showdown at the end much like Carnivale where it wraps up, but after you think about it some you are like 'wait what?'.

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#31 Posted on 19.5.10 1522.29
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    Originally posted by dunkndollaz
    Now I'm going to have to go back and look at last week but I could have sworn that the light at the heart of the island left the cave with Smokey.
I remember seeing it that way too. However, just went back & rewatched that scene, & it isn't shown. The cave definitely gets dark. My first interpretation was that "the light" was being absorbed into Smoky, & then Smoky left. On second watching, the cave getting dark seems more like Smoky's exit just obscuring the glow. And we do not get another shot of the cave after Smoky leaves. So, inconclusive whether the cave still glows after the event.

I suppose the other thing I was thinking of is the whole warmth/cold thing. We know the caves we've seen down by the FDW are icy cold, & the strange light down there isn't the golden yellow, but is more of an frigid blue/green. If the "warmth" aspect goes with Smoky, then that just leaves the icy-cold strange matter.

(edited by emma on 19.5.10 1450)
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#32 Posted on 19.5.10 2234.40
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Not everyone got 'Lost,' but the series will have lasting impact

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10139/1059072-67.stm?cmpid=newspanel0
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#33 Posted on 19.5.10 2325.57
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Wow. I never knew Lloyd Braun was the voice of the "Previously on LOST..." Darlton were asked about that person's identity in a Podcast, and they played coy, so I was wondering if it wouldn't turn out to be Jacob or someone significant like that. Turns out it was someone involved in the island's history, just in a different way.
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#34 Posted on 20.5.10 0604.40
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    Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff
      Originally posted by Big Bad
      I guess Zoe's presence was only required since Widmore wanted someone who hadn't spoken to the Monster yet and thus could kill him. So much for that plan. Also, Smokey has spoken to all of Jack, Sawyer, Kate, Desmond and Hurley, so I'm not sure who's left to kill him.

    Uh, that whole "don't let him speak to you" thing has nothing to do w/ being able/unable to kill MIB.

You say this but then give no explanation. A lot of people think otherwise.

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#35 Posted on 20.5.10 0624.22
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    Originally posted by EddieBurkett
    Wow. I never knew Lloyd Braun was the voice of the "Previously on LOST..." Darlton were asked about that person's identity in a Podcast, and they played coy, so I was wondering if it wouldn't turn out to be Jacob or someone significant like that. Turns out it was someone involved in the island's history, just in a different way.


What? I thought it was John Terry (Christian Shephard) who said "Previously on Lost..."

How about that? Apparently he isn't. http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/John_Terry

(edited by John Orquiola on 20.5.10 0428)
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#36 Posted on 20.5.10 0800.40
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    Originally posted by StingArmy
      Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff
        Originally posted by Big Bad
        I guess Zoe's presence was only required since Widmore wanted someone who hadn't spoken to the Monster yet and thus could kill him. So much for that plan. Also, Smokey has spoken to all of Jack, Sawyer, Kate, Desmond and Hurley, so I'm not sure who's left to kill him.

      Uh, that whole "don't let him speak to you" thing has nothing to do w/ being able/unable to kill MIB.

    You say this but then give no explanation. A lot of people think otherwise.

    - StingArmy

Because:
1) it is ridiculous (I know, this show, but still). Not talking to MIB makes him corporeal, and then he changes back to smoke once he speaks to you for the 1st time?

2) Dogen's warning to Sayid was to stab MIB before MIB had a chance to speak to him, not the other way. Zoe speaking 1st to MIB didn't go against this warning.

I don't think it was ever to be taken literally. Otherwise, MIB should just go around the island shouting out stuff to everyone he meets to insure his invulnerablity. "Talked to you, can't kill me!" It was more of "don't let him speak to you, because he'll be too persuasive."
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#37 Posted on 20.5.10 1001.51
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My friend posited this theory about Desmond that makes as much sense to me as anything else:

I think the thing with Desmond being immune to electromagnetism is to do with the light. Non-immune person goes in, he gets turned to evil smoke monster, and the light is still there. Maybe an immune person goes in, he destroys it.

That kind of merges the Science (electromagnetism) with the Faith (Island magic). Desmond is special, after all.

We'll see on SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY, I guess.
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#38 Posted on 20.5.10 1649.45
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    Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff
    I don't think it was ever to be taken literally. Otherwise, MIB should just go around the island shouting out stuff to everyone he meets to insure his invulnerablity. "Talked to you, can't kill me!" It was more of "don't let him speak to you, because he'll be too persuasive."

Yeah you (and/or someone else on this board) mentioned in the past that it wasn't to be taken literally. Originally, I looked at it the same way. But after nearly the exact same phrasing was used several times on the show, I can no longer assume that it merely means "he'll be too persuasive." Different characters talking about the exact same situation using almost the exact same wording should mean something. The writers of this show aren't so lazy or so clumsy that they would make that kind of mistake.

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#39 Posted on 21.5.10 1226.42
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    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco

    I'm really getting the feeling that this is going to be a big showdown at the end much like Carnivale where it wraps up, but after you think about it some you are like 'wait what?'.




Yeah, don't get me going about that one, Daddy.
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#40 Posted on 21.5.10 2152.27
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I suppose it can't really be avoided, but they're starting to get some real continuity errors.

Error 1 - Ben visits Widmore. "Why don't you kill me" "We both know you can't do that." Well, that one's out the window.

Error 2 - "When did you cross me off?" "When you became a mother." So then, why are the mysterious numbers not 4,8,15,16,23,42,51 (Kate's number) - she - and probably others - got crossed off after the whole numbers thing.
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