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#1 Posted on 3.7.02 0142.52
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I don't know about you but I'm bored with the Trish Stratus character right now. Sure she can wrestle, but her storyline totally sucks right now. Ripping on women that look natural? The WWE needs to make her a heel again. Get her involved with Vince again. No wait a minute that sucked too. Get her involved with HHH again, but that would make Stephanie a face. This may actually be successful. I just think the WWE should do some tuning up on Trish, Get her involved in major storyline.

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#2 Posted on 3.7.02 0216.10
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What they need to do is drop this fucking stupid "Molly has a big ass" angle and just have Molly be... you know... a heel. A heel with great wrestling skills and a big mouth that just wants to win matches and titles and will cheat like nuts to do it. No virgin crap, no big ass crap, just have her play a good heel. It would do wonders for Trish as a babyface and solve some of the flaws her character has by having an actual unlikable heel to play off of, rather then one who looks sympathetic by being told she has a big ass.

Although a heel Trish vs. babyface Molly (complete with blonde hair and a variation of her Mighty Molly tights as she looked hot as hell in them) with a decent storyline behind it wouldn't be a bad idea either.
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#3 Posted on 3.7.02 0624.37
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If they want to make Trish a heel, have her join Team Canada. Of course she would have to be traded to SmackDown for that to happen, and that probably won't happen, since most of the women's matches are in the Raw brand.
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#4 Posted on 3.7.02 0922.01
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Go read John Orquiola's take on this feud on the main page (well, it's part of the Smackdown Spoilers, so you may want to wait until after Thursday). He has an interesting take on the Molly storyline.

Actually, this things has started to work the last couple of weeks, since they've tweaked it a little. I think some of the problem before was they didn't really have Molly well established as a heel before Trish started making fun of her "fat ass", so it came off as uncalled for. Now, they are having Molly do heelish things. So now, because Molly cheated to beat Trish, when Trish says she's going to kick her "fat ass", people feel Molly had it coming. When, after Molly beat down Jackie, Trish pulls down her pants (which is hardly a new concept, they even do that to guys from time to time), she had it coming. Molly is drawing good heel heat right now, and Trish is drawing face heat. Knowing that, I have to say that the feud has begun to click the last two weeks.
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#5 Posted on 3.7.02 1137.09
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I would have to grugingly agree with GES but don't like what he is saying only for one reason- because I'm just getting bored of the "one person vs. one other person for three months" storyline. With a couple more weeks of this, I personally am going to start getting sick of Trish vs. Molly just like I got tired of Trish vs. Jazz. At least they worked Lita in there for a little while. What they have been doing with Jackie so far is not much. I still think you can use her to turn Trish heel, but it involves some kind of major push for Jackie (perhaps along with some other competitor) and I'm not sure they are ready to do that yet. But I think they just need to find SOME way of working some kind of different storyline in there.

All that being said, I along with many others really love what Trish has become over the past 6 months. With all the improvement in her ability that everyone keeps mentioning, many seem to be not noticing the fact that she has become one of the strongest faces in the womens division in quite some time (despite the fat ass angle that went wrong during this feud). Can anyone recall a womens champion/competitor in recent memory that got as much face heat as Trish has been getting this year? Did Chyna ever get this kind of booking for a sustained amount of time?

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#6 Posted on 3.7.02 1334.08
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Chyna, because of her size, was very unnatural as a babyface in that decision. You want a face to be the underdog to really get behind her. No-one was going to be cheering that she could squash people like Lita and jackie. That is why in her women's title run, the only heat she got was basically leeched off the RTC.
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#7 Posted on 3.7.02 1445.31
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When during a Hardy Boyz match, all that is heard is "Lita" chants, I would say that Lita was as over as Trish is now.

And even though recent history isn't kind to Chyna, she was mightily over during her period as the first woman to be in several events, such as the Royal Rumble and King of the Ring. I think that when Chyna was moved up to the Intercontinental title level and was getting wins over Chris Jericho and the like, the majority of fans started to turn on her.
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#8 Posted on 3.7.02 1545.14
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Wow DMC, you got a short attention span (lol) Oh I remember back in the day when feuds would go 3 or 4 months =) . Actually I'm not bored of Trish v. Molly, I love seeing them work and the after the roster split and being on just once a week helps to keep it fresh.

I think Trish is a true talent, heel Trish got Steph over as a face (more difficult then parting the red sea). And slowly Trish is becoming a real amazing face. And unlike Lita and Chyna without the need to beat up on men EVERY week for a cheap pop. She helped Jazz from a no one caring about her in Survivor Series to a pretty decent heel. Jazz did a great job, but Trish awesome bumping like a madwoman and selling Jazz stuff like I've never seen a woman bump before certainly helped. I'm sure she could have done something special with Molly, but the storyline didn't give the a chance.

Trish brings in every aspect of what makes a good sport-entertainer (inring, mic skills, getting your character over, getting opponents/storyline over), she might not be the top girl of the 4 aspects (take it back she's #1 in storyline/opponent over IMO) but Trish could very well be top 2 or 3 on all the those criteria, example of Lita she might be as over as anyone but the other 3 aspects she's down or at the bottom of the list.

As for the Big Ass storyline, the bottom line was they did it for 4 weeks, and Trish was less over when the PPV match hit then she was with Jazz. Molly didn't have fans really booing her and actually got some pops when she hit the Molly-Go-Round for the #1 contender match on Raw vs. Trish... Last Monday they changed direction a bit and had Molly cut a heel promo saying that Trish is still a barbie doll and didn't deserve to be champ. Trish defends herself saying how hard she worked and deserve her spot (and it true so it works even better this storyline) And the fans were into the match giving Molly heel heat for the FIRST time in her WWE career, and getting behind Trish to kick her ass.

So the WWE writers sit around the office thinking, which way should we go with this storyline, the storyline that we did for 4 weeks and didn't get over OR the 3 minute pre-match "i don't respect you" "dammit I worked hard" interview by Molly & Trish that got the fans into even with TE girls involved... Of course we see they went with what DIDN'T get over and focused on Molly's ass, yes it got a BIG reaction when Trish depants Molly, will that transfer to next week, and match heat. Don't know, but I have my doubts.

As for Trish is character, I think it's still pretty fresh. (UNLIKE someone like Lita, that for the past while I thought was a tired and boring character that needed a change badly) There's a lot of interesting aspects of Trish's character. She is legit first woman I could remember by going from only TnA to a real great wrestler, a vet could come in and say she's still see's Trish as only TnA and well never respect her as a wrestler... Trish's past with Vince could be used by someone (molly)and someone could keep throwing the mistakes of Trish's past into her face saying she slept her way to the top. Ya it's been used as cheap shots during interviews by Jazz and Molly, but only one week cheap shot and not a focus like it could, like keep bringing it up and maybe even show footage of it, therefore making Trish really defensive and pissed and saying "I made mistakes in the past, I'm not the same girl from 18 months ago. And I'll prove it to you" .

Heck they could use the obvious Trish/lilian friendship and have a vicious villen attack Lil (JR style beating) and have Trish come in for a late save or not be in the building and then set up a match cause Trish wants revenge for her non-wrestling friend. I thought they were going to do that with Jazz earlier this yeat, I remember JAzz an end of a Lil interview on Smackdown called her a "bad name" and next week SD Trish was interviewed by Lil. JAzz attacked her and drop boxes on Trish's hand and Lil went over to Trish and yelled for help and stayed with her friend. I thought forsure Lilian would get attacked by Jazz the following week to give Trish more of a reason to fight Jazz.

See 3 different type of storylines that hasn't been used and can for face-Trish. I think if they put just a little thought into it the women in this division could make it real special. But they have to get out of the narrow thinking of women storylines of "my body is better then yours".







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#9 Posted on 3.7.02 1646.03
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The attacking Lilian thing is a good idea but like you're saying it would be better if some monster heel did it, like Jazz. She should be coming back by the end of the summer so let's see how they reintroduce her. I still think a heel stable can be done if they bring in just one more competitor, preferably some kind of monster like Jazz (except bigger--someone like Asya). Have Jackie introduce her, (have her do a "I'm tired of loosing matches and getting kicked around" deal) have them squash someone like Terri in week one in a match, and then have them attack Trish during a later backstage interview. Really bill them as unstoppable monsters that Trish would totally be afraid of and willing to join with. Week two= Trish asks Molly to burry the hatchet and help her take on the team. During the tag match, Trish turns on Molly and joins the heels, NWO style.

As far as my attention span, I agree I may have jumped the gun a little bit on calling Molly vs. Trish boring. I did say if it continues for longer than a few weeks THEN it will be boring me. Right now it is interesting enough to keep my attention, but if its not going to end in Trish winning the title back at the next PPV, then what is going to happen?

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#10 Posted on 3.7.02 2006.05
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The return of Stephanie? That would be there only option if Trish wins the belt. Th other option could be a feud with the TE2 chicks.
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#11 Posted on 3.7.02 2254.37
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    Originally posted by ges7184
    Go read John Orquiola's take on this feud on the main page (well, it's part of the Smackdown Spoilers, so you may want to wait until after Thursday). He has an interesting take on the Molly storyline.

    Actually, this things has started to work the last couple of weeks, since they've tweaked it a little. I think some of the problem before was they didn't really have Molly well established as a heel before Trish started making fun of her "fat ass", so it came off as uncalled for. Now, they are having Molly do heelish things. So now, because Molly cheated to beat Trish, when Trish says she's going to kick her "fat ass", people feel Molly had it coming. When, after Molly beat down Jackie, Trish pulls down her pants (which is hardly a new concept, they even do that to guys from time to time), she had it coming. Molly is drawing good heel heat right now, and Trish is drawing face heat. Knowing that, I have to say that the feud has begun to click the last two weeks.



Why are you defending such a stupid storyline?

Oh, and if Molly got any heel heat on monday, it was because she acted like a heel. Not because this stupid big ass angle is getting over.
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#12 Posted on 3.7.02 2342.39
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Can we please just drop the women's division? The matches are a bore, and I give more of a rat's ass about the Euro Title in its current state than the Women's Title. There's a concept...give the Euro champ a feud!
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#13 Posted on 4.7.02 1021.05
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It is easy to get bored with Trish right now. Don't get me wrong, I think she is the hottest Diva on the roster but on RAW she is way above Molly in terms of combined wrestling ability and heat. There is no one else close to her. Her improvement over the last few years in terms of in-ring ability and mic skills have been tremendous. Now it is time for her to take the next step. Make everyone else around you better than they are.
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