John Orquiola
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| #1 Posted on 5.2.10 2203.25 Reposted on: 5.2.17 2203.31 | Also known as 9x11 - "Society" and 9x12 - "Legends"
ROLL CALL (Here we go. This'll take a while.)
SUPERMAN! CHLOE SULLIVAN! LOIS LANE! THE GREEN ARROW! TESS MERCER! ZOD! (Not present) Special DC Universe guest stars: THE MARTIAN MANHUNTER! and THE JUSTICE SOCIETY OF AMERICA: HAWKMAN! DR. FATE! STARGIRL! STAR SPANGLED KID! THE SANDMAN! With special mentions of: THE GREEN LANTERN! THE FLASH! HAWKGIRL! WILDCAT! THE ATOM! BLACK CANARY I! HOURMAN! MR. TERRIFIC! STRIPSEY! Special guest villains: ICICLE II ICICLE I (comatose) and representing CHECKMATE: AMANDA WALLER!
Watching Absolute Justice was like my collection of DC Comics Who's Who exploding into my TV. That was the most hardcore geekout steeped in comic book lore two hours ever seen on television.
The Justice Society was all there as much as a TV budget and logistics would allow. The Brownstone, the round table, the props from all the superheroes who were part of the team.
My favorite moment was after Dr. Fate teleported Clark to the Brownstone and Clark pulled the sheets off all of the memorabilia and the Justice Society painting. They panned the painting and showed footage of each character, but when they got to the right side of the painting that had Black Canary, Hourman, and Mr. Terrific, they stopped. Uh, we don't have any footage of them. Also, there's already a Smallville version of Black Canary so... we don't wanna explain... Why don't we just move on? Clark used his X-ray vision to see the Dr. Fate helmet crazy Kent Nelson kept in the satchel while he was in the Brownstone the first time, but then later during a pow-wow with Chloe, he tells her they're definitely hiding something. Yeah, if only Clark had used his X-ray vision on the rest of the Brownstone. That's our Clark. Always thinkin'.
I liked how the classic comic book method of pairing the heroes off in groups of two happened. Hawkman and Green Arrow, Dr. Fate and Martian Manhunter, Chloe and Stargirl.
The news footage Clark and Chloe watched of the Society members being arrested in the violent, black and white 1970s was very amusing. Too bad the black guy with the big afro they showed for a moment wasn't Black Lightning.
Hawkman was intent on out raspy voicing Christian Bale's Batman. Also, his wings seem to be more decorative than useful because they don't flap or anything to let him fly. Reminded me of the Hawkmen in Flash Gordon (on purpose?) I loved when he broke down Green Arrow's method of not sharing his life with anyone and holding them at a distance by "acting like a jackass."
Dr. Fate was well done. I liked his reading everyone's fates, telling Clark about how when he reveals himself to the world, we'll all "look up in the sky" at his example. His cryptic message to Chloe that she will walk down his path, or something, was interesting. But then he went down like a bitch.
The best Stargirl moment for me was her talk with Chloe about how the Watchtower is technologically sufficient but lacks the qualities of a home that would bring her disparate Justice League together as a family.
J'onn J'onzz is all Martian again! And we got to see him for a brief moment as the big, beetle-browed green gumby in the comics. I liked the costume nod to his comic book look and his line about growing to love cookies.
I wish we got to see the dinner with Chloe, Green Arrow, and Martian Manhunter. I wonder if they had more discussions on how to make their Superfriends more like a family and not just get together when they have Troubalerts.
Of all the superhero props in the Brownstone, the best one by far was the JSA's computer.
Amanda Waller recruited Lois Lane to be part of Checkmate, or at least an informant. Plus we find out Tess Mercer is a Checkmate agent. (I wonder if she ever wore the black and gold costume?) Waller wants all the superheroes to reveal themselves so she can utilize them against the coming apocalypse. Or is that spelled 'Apokalips'?
Really, the only thing I disliked was the actor who played the Icicle. He was just terrible, and that's saying something for Smallville. I liked when Waller said "Welcome to the Suicide Squad!" and shot him in the head. Technically, suicide would be if he took his own life. That's really homicide, what Waller did.
Next week: Smallville goes to their version of Comic-Con and another Justice Leaguer we've met before drops by.
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| #2 Posted on 5.2.10 2227.09 Reposted on: 5.2.17 2227.43 | I loved this episode, the wife didn't as I kept having to explain who everyone was and why the green Lantern looked different. I did like Hawkman's line on how he is going to find all the remaining JSA's kids and such to take over.
I didn't get why the Lantern ring is still sitting there shouldn't it ya know leave? or is it not the same ring that Hal Jordan had. | John Orquiola
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| #3 Posted on 5.2.10 2234.00 Reposted on: 5.2.17 2234.33 | Originally posted by yamcharulez I didn't get why the Lantern ring is still sitting there shouldn't it ya know leave? or is it not the same ring that Hal Jordan had.
The Golden Age Green Lantern's Power Ring is a completely different ring from the ones worn by the Green Lantern Corps. Alan Scott's ring is forged from a magical lantern.
The Guardians of the Universe never sued Alan Scott for infringing on their Green Lantern trademark. (That's a joke.)
Need to know more? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Lantern | odessasteps
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| #4 Posted on 5.2.10 2242.23 Reposted on: 5.2.17 2242.45 | I said earlier than if there was a DCU drinking game, tonight's smallvlle would have killed most people.
So cheesy.
I'll be curious to see if Geoff Johns kool-aid drinkers like the episode or not. | lotjx
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| #5 Posted on 6.2.10 0007.45 Reposted on: 6.2.17 0007.48 | Johns tweeted the Apocalypse line was written as Apokolipse, so use your imagination on that one. Minus most of the JSA going out like punks to lame-o villain, it was amazing. The best Smallville to date. They hinted Lex is alive. I say give the keys to Johns and be done with it. No tights, no flight seem to have zero meaning to him. I do think after this episode Zod and the krypto-clones become a distant memory as a threat or even a storyline. Bring on Suicide Squad. | kentish
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| #6 Posted on 6.2.10 1038.12 Reposted on: 6.2.17 1038.19 | Yes, it was cool to see these characters on screen, but Hawkman seemed fat and corny. His helmet looked too big as well. Stargirl looked good though, as did Fate. I always assumed the final scene of this series would be Clark putting on the costume, but he needs to just do it now if he is constantly being surrounded by other heroes in tights.
Maybe it was just bad acting, but there seemed to be one cringe inducing line after another. Sometimes comic writing doesn't always translate to other mediums. Sorry Geoff, you're still a god among comic writers if it makes you feel any better. : ) | John Orquiola
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| #7 Posted on 6.2.10 1351.35 Reposted on: 6.2.17 1352.44 | http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2010/02/06/smallville-ratings-absolute-justice/
Smallville scores its season best ratings and gave The CW its best Friday night in over a year, according to the article.
Smallville isn't drawing the 4-5 million it used to its heyday, but for a show in its 9th season airing on Friday nights, relatively speaking, it's still Super strong. (Smallville is also one of the most DVR'd shows, averaging a 28% increase when DVR is factored in.)
I can't imagine how Absolute Justice's ratings won't equal a 10th season. The CW should pay Tom Welling whatever he wants to come back; he's been The WB/The CW's biggest star for almost a whole decade now and he continues to deliver. | cranlsn
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| #8 Posted on 7.2.10 0019.20 Reposted on: 7.2.17 0019.25 | I liked this as well, it was nice to see a nod to past superheroes. But...add me to the pile of hate for the "actor" that portrayed the Icicle II. It was like watching Jim Carey as Ace Ventura trying to play a serious villain.
I was relieved when he died...
I heard them mention that Alan Scott was still alive...so why didn't he have the ring? | Llakor
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| #9 Posted on 8.2.10 1307.23 Reposted on: 8.2.17 1307.26 | In the list, you did not include "Ma Hunkel" the original Red Tornado (also grandmother of Cyclone)
At various points, Alan Scott has taken off the ring and given up being Green Lantern only to put the ring back on later. (He also went through a period where he was the ring and called himself Greenheart or something equally qacky.) | Mike Zeidler
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| #10 Posted on 8.2.10 1512.57 Reposted on: 8.2.17 1513.00 | His name was Sentinel. We will never speak of that period again. | ALL ORIGINAL POSTS IN THIS THREAD ARE NOW AVAILABLE |
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