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#21 Posted on 3.3.09 2232.33
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I am not sure why Jimmy Fallon deserves a benefit of doubt. It's not like he is some unknown quantity with little experience in front of the camera (like Conan was). There is plenty of material out there to help determine whether or not Fallon is funny. I have never found Fallon funny, and I just don't see any reason that's going to suddenly change just because he has started hosting a talk show.
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#22 Posted on 3.3.09 2342.39
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Were you guys watching the same show I watched? First off, Jimmy was incredibly smart figuring out that De Niro, while being a huge name and a great draw for his new show, would be a terrible interview. So instead of risking a giant flop of a guest to start his show, he made it into a bit.

Second, the Roots were INCREDIBLE and I still cannot believe they're the freaking house band for the show. Slow Jamming the News, playing the theme to the Barry Gibb Talk Show, and playing those John Mayer songs were impressive and showed quite a bit of range for a talk show house band, especially a hip-hop house band.

Third, everything with Jimmy and Timberlake together was amusing at the very least. I loved the John Mayer and Michael McDonald stuff. I don't understand whoever it was that said it was Chris Farley Show-esque. WAY off.

On top of all that, the opening skit with Conan was gold and I thought the "Space Train" skit with De Niro was funny too. Now that Jimmy is getting a decent talk show guest in Tina Fey tonight I'm really looking forward to seeing what he can do. He's not as funny as Conan was YET, but Conan was on for the better part of 2 decades.

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#23 Posted on 3.3.09 2357.46
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Watch for yourself!

http://www.nbc.com/late-night-with-jimmy-fallon/video/episodes/?vid=1049062#vid=1049062

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#24 Posted on 4.3.09 1249.16
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I finally got around to watching Monday's debut yesterday and I liked it. I wasnt a big fan of Jimmy Fallon before either.

I agree with what StingArmy said about using DeNiro as a bit instead of trying to drag a real interview out of him. I think the real test will be when Jimmy has to interview someone he isnt already chummy with.

The Roots were awesome and I loved Slow Jam the News, even they kinda stole it from The Daily Show when Stewart used to do the same thing with an R. Kelly impostor. Lick It for Ten sucked.

I read an article about The Roots being on the show a couple weeks ago but I cant remember where I saw it now. The major portion of their income comes from touring, not album sales. And with the economy where it has been for the past year or so (the toilet, amirite???), ?uestlove said this Late Night gig may have actually saved the band. The lead singer said he was hesitant to do it initially because he didnt want the gig to become material for another MC to use against him, not to mention the dreaded "sell-out" tag. But when Jimmy came to them with the idea, he said they wouldnt be the regular run-of-the-mill talk show band playing filler music, so he eventually went along with it. And speaking of their music, NBC instantly owns any new songs they come up with for the show, which will be everything because NBC is also unwilling to pay royalties for anybody elses music they play, including their own.

I'd love to link you to the whole article I swear, I just cant find it anymore :(
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#25 Posted on 4.3.09 1404.33
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?uestlove interview with Smoking Section might have been it.
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#26 Posted on 4.3.09 2023.55
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FWIW, I enjoyed his second night *MUCH* better than the first. His interactions with Tina Fey seemed much more natural than those with DeNiro and JT (although they are old friends who are catching up after not seeing each other for a bit) and his Facebook bit that dovetailed into one with Mayor Bloomberg were pretty entertaining.

I guess my default will be Ferguson unless there's a really good guest on Fallon (like Tina Fey~!) or Kimmel, but who knows? I never would have thought I'd start cheating on Conan with Ferguson in the first place, but I would have been very wrong.

edit: And some analysis of the ratings from the first couple of nights - http://www.thrfeed.com/2009/03/fallon-stays-strong-for-second-show.html

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#27 Posted on 5.3.09 2035.56
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    Originally posted by DrewDewce
    FWIW, I enjoyed his second night *MUCH* better than the first. His interactions with Tina Fey seemed much more natural than those with DeNiro and JT (although they are old friends who are catching up after not seeing each other for a bit) and his Facebook bit that dovetailed into one with Mayor Bloomberg were pretty entertaining.

    I guess my default will be Ferguson unless there's a really good guest on Fallon (like Tina Fey~!) or Kimmel, but who knows? I never would have thought I'd start cheating on Conan with Ferguson in the first place, but I would have been very wrong.

    edit: And some analysis of the ratings from the first couple of nights - http://www.thrfeed.com/2009/03/fallon-stays-strong-for-second-show.html

    (edited by DrewDewce on 5.3.09 0452)


That is interesting because I pretty much hated the second night. I know Conan's monologues are unfunny, but Fallon must have the same people with the same bad jokes. I didn't mind the Facebook part, but the comedy with Mayor Bloomberg went on too long.

I was a fan of Tina and Jimmy on SNL, but they both looked stiff and unfunny here. Tina Fey not knowing who Robert Pattinson from Twilight was a funny highlight though.

So I'm not willing to give Fallon another chance.
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#28 Posted on 6.3.09 0018.40
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I'm liking Jimmy so far, but I will agree that the monologues aren't great. I commented to my girlfriend while watching the second episode that he looks and sounds like he's doing Weekend Update, just while standing up. He's just reading off a cue card and trying not to stumble too badly over his lines. He needs to take a cue from Leno and Conan (and everyone else who does a late night talk show monologue...) and make it more conversational and informal.

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#29 Posted on 6.3.09 0429.54
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    Originally posted by Mr Heel II
      Originally posted by El Nastio
      Speaking of which, Conan took awhile to get his groove.
    It honestly surprised me that Conan lasted longer than a week. His first shows were some seriously bad television.

    That they kept with it and he became good is nothing short of a miracle in today's TV business.


Ah, but that wasn't today's TV business, was it? If it had been, he wouldn't have lasted a week. In those days, things were allowed to develop. By today's standards, just to keep it to comedy, Seinfeld, Cheers, and All in the Family all would have been yanked within a few weeks. That's part of so much TV sucks now. All the good stuff is being done on cable, where if you deliver a mere million viewers a night you're a success.

Speaking of the Chris Farley show...off topic but that guy sure was funnier than people give him credit for. I know they resorted to "fall down and scream" a lot with him, but he completely nailed the more subtle characterizations like that aforementioned talk show skit, and I thought he was a hell of an impressionist: Newt, Rush, and the Dom DeLuise bit are faves, Bennett Brauer is gold, and obviously they ran Matt Foley way passed its shelf life, but it's funnier than a number of classic SNL bits: Coneheads in particular. The book The Chris Farley show, which is a oral history of his life, is touching and a fantastic read for SNL or Farley fans, and really captures the pain of uncontrollable addiction; I can't recommend it enough.

Fallon is crap. At the risk of contradicting my earlier point about developing, I think the "Conan sucked early too" arguments fall flat because, as has been mentioned, Conan was never a performer up to that point. He had an awful start apparently, though I was too young to catch his early shows, but I would imagine you could hold out hope he'd improve. Fallon was on SNL for years and never got any better. His songs always struck me as less funny Sandler songs, which is saying something, and his inability to get through anything without laughing was just annoying after a while. Why he'd get any better at this when he's so much more on his own and has so much less talent around him to mask his weaknesses is beyond me. I don't care for Ferguson either; Scottish accents annoy me, and Leno's endless stream of Mexican and/or Arab-bashing/Michael Jackson paedo circa 1993/how fat are we getting in this country/troubled celebrity of the day jokes make me want to puke. Long live Letterman.

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#30 Posted on 6.3.09 0855.27
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I like Jimmy more than others, but was never sure this was the right vehicle for him. But props for getting The Roots as the house band.

The 2nd night was better than the first (thanks to Tina), and he still appears to be quite nervous. I hated Conan when he started, but quickly grew to love him as he improved over the first year or so.

My biggest problem, and it is probably just me, is that I wish this show did not stick to the same old formula for late night TV. The monologue, the desk, etc. I just wish someone would come along and break the mold.
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