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#41 Posted on 17.2.09 1415.12
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    Originally posted by Broncolanche
      Originally posted by SEADAWG
      Are people really not getting that he was doing "angry guy on the verge of breaking down in tears" as opposed to "super angry pissed off guy"? Or is there some other reason why no one is mentioning this?

      Because it was clearly the former and clearly awesome. Best HHH moment since the legendary Bob Holly encounter.
    I'm with you. I was half-expecting HHH to break down crying.


Me too. I bought into it big time. it made me look forward to a HHH/Orton match for the first time since....well since forever. I might not be a psyched for this in a month, but for now I am. My only complaint was that orton didn't basically look a HHH and laugh. The look he gave pretty mcuh lets you know how this will play out. Orton looked like he knew he pulled on Superman's Cape and that an ass kicking was coming his way and there was nothing he could do.
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#42 Posted on 17.2.09 1558.52
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    Originally posted by Mayhem

    I'd take out Knox and add MVP, Shelton, Morrison & Miz.



I would also but they need one big guy in MiTB match to do power spots and ohhhh the crowd. If not Mike Knox, then Kane.

Speaking of big men, has the Big Show stock dropped or what? From last year being a main focus on Wrestlemania to possibly not even being in it this year. I was and still am a fan of the Big Show (we come from the same little South Carolina town) but he's really slowed down a lot in the last year. Bet his back and knees are really bothering him again, a problem that plagues nearly all super-giants when they hit 35 plus.

Rumor sites are saying Hogan vs Cena at Wrestlemania but I'll believe it when I hear it.
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#43 Posted on 17.2.09 1744.05
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    Originally posted by Tenken347
    I know I'm supposed to understand that Randy Orton's punt is the most devastating move in the entire history of professional wrestling, but COME ON. It's a kick to the head. I saw Randy get hit in the head with a ring bell last night, and he was able to shrug that off in like a minute. A kick to the head warrants a stretcher-job, though?


I always figured Orton's kick to the head was devastating because it was going into the victims temple.

(edited by Kevintripod on 17.2.09 1544)
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#44 Posted on 17.2.09 1746.44
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What was the HHH/Bob Holly moment?
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#45 Posted on 17.2.09 1812.15
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    Originally posted by Tenken347
    I know I'm supposed to understand that Randy Orton's punt is the most devastating move in the entire history of professional wrestling, but COME ON. It's a kick to the head. I saw Randy get hit in the head with a ring bell last night, and he was able to shrug that off in like a minute. A kick to the head warrants a stretcher-job, though? I could buy the punt when it was getting delivered to retirees and non-wrestlers, but when you drop it on a guy that's just done back-to-back hardcore matches, I have a real hard time buying into it.
Hogan's leg drop was enough to put opponents away soooooooo....
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#46 Posted on 17.2.09 1847.58
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    Originally posted by Kevintripod
      Originally posted by Tenken347
      I know I'm supposed to understand that Randy Orton's punt is the most devastating move in the entire history of professional wrestling, but COME ON. It's a kick to the head. I saw Randy get hit in the head with a ring bell last night, and he was able to shrug that off in like a minute. A kick to the head warrants a stretcher-job, though?


    I always figured Orton's kick to the head was devastating because it was going into the victims temple.

    (edited by Kevintripod on 17.2.09 1544)


I just assume "his kick" > everyone else's kicks.

It's like how people can use a move in their matches and "it's just a move" but it's also someone's finisher.
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#47 Posted on 17.2.09 1946.53
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And to think, this time last year the talk of the wrestling world was JBL and Vince beating the snot out of Hornswoggle.

How will Randy Orton go from being scared shitless at the end of the show last night to choosing to challenge HHH? Remember, it's Orton's *choice*. Why would he *choose* to wrestle HHH? If the belt was on the other waist, then yes, of course, HHH chooses to challenge Orton. This? I'm not sure yet.

The Jericho stuff had better lead to a match with Austin, or more generally, anyone who is not Mickey Rourke. I mean, looking at the road they appear to be going down, it seems pretty silly that the Hollywood actor / non-wrestler will be the one to step up to defend the honor of the immortal wrestling legends.

How are two RAW wrestlers able to negotiate a match that will contractually obligate the winner to wrestle a Smackdown wrestler?

And since it was already mentioned, is there *any* chance that Hogan gets a spot on the same show that will presumably be centered around Austin's farewell match?

(edited by Mr Shh on 17.2.09 2047)
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#48 Posted on 17.2.09 1953.53
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    Originally posted by odessasteps
      Originally posted by Kevintripod
        Originally posted by Tenken347
        I know I'm supposed to understand that Randy Orton's punt is the most devastating move in the entire history of professional wrestling, but COME ON. It's a kick to the head. I saw Randy get hit in the head with a ring bell last night, and he was able to shrug that off in like a minute. A kick to the head warrants a stretcher-job, though?


      I always figured Orton's kick to the head was devastating because it was going into the victims temple.

      (edited by Kevintripod on 17.2.09 1544)


    I just assume "his kick" > everyone else's kicks.

    It's like how people can use a move in their matches and "it's just a move" but it's also someone's finisher.


I could buy into this, if Orton's own finisher didn't seem much more devasting than that punt. Hell, that rope-assisted DDT that he's been doing lately looks worse.

That's not to say a running kick to the head wouldn't hurt like hell, and possible knock someone out...but when you see CM Punk cracking guys upside their heads with his kicks, and Big Show hitting guys in the face with a closed fist that's a lot bigger than Orton's foot...well, suspension of disbelief only goes so far.
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#49 Posted on 17.2.09 1957.38
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    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
    I loved it too, Mr. Can't Catch Any Fruit, but may I also submit HHH blinded by Tajiri's mist cutting a promo on a plant.


Yes. Also the blindfold match with D'Lo where he stood there pointing his finger and giving the ol' what-for to the turnbuckle.

    Originally posted by StevieRichards
    What was the HHH/Bob Holly moment?


Oh man, it was grand. If you didn't catch Justin's reference, I will elaborate further.

Circa 2000, Triple H and Stephanie were on Sunday Night Heat for lord only knows what reason, and they walked into their catered dressing room to find BOB HOLLY sitting on the couch, his feet up on the table, eating their fruit plate.

Except he wasn't so much eating the fruit as much as he was tossing it into the air, trying to catch it in his mouth, and missing. And to illustrate his lack of aim, there were pieces of fruit strewn all over the couch.

Naturally, HHH and Stephanie were aghast at his presence. I think there may have been an earlier segment that established Stephanie's fondness for the fruit plate Holly was eating, so as you can imagine, she was most unhappy.

Anyway, harsh words were exchanged, a challenge was issued, and it all culminated in HHH daring to refer to Bob as "MISTER I CAN'T CATCH ANY FRUIT".

On the Mount Rushmore of great Sunday Night Heat moments, it stands alongside the APA/T&A strip poker game, undisputed world champion Chris Jericho's sound effects as he flicked defeated opponents from the palm of his hand, and anytime from the early days when Shane McMahon would go "BOOYAH".
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#50 Posted on 17.2.09 2006.39
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    Originally posted by eventhis
      Originally posted by odessasteps
        Originally posted by Kevintripod
          Originally posted by Tenken347
          I know I'm supposed to understand that Randy Orton's punt is the most devastating move in the entire history of professional wrestling, but COME ON. It's a kick to the head. I saw Randy get hit in the head with a ring bell last night, and he was able to shrug that off in like a minute. A kick to the head warrants a stretcher-job, though?


        I always figured Orton's kick to the head was devastating because it was going into the victims temple.

        (edited by Kevintripod on 17.2.09 1544)


      I just assume "his kick" > everyone else's kicks.

      It's like how people can use a move in their matches and "it's just a move" but it's also someone's finisher.


    I could buy into this, if Orton's own finisher didn't seem much more devasting than that punt. Hell, that rope-assisted DDT that he's been doing lately looks worse.

    That's not to say a running kick to the head wouldn't hurt like hell, and possible knock someone out...but when you see CM Punk cracking guys upside their heads with his kicks, and Big Show hitting guys in the face with a closed fist that's a lot bigger than Orton's foot...well, suspension of disbelief only goes so far.


They need a vignette that either highlights young RKO playing futbol in high school (ST Louis is soccer country) or film a Mr. Perfect-like promo with him and Christian Ronaldo where the professional player puts over Randy's kicking power.
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#51 Posted on 17.2.09 2048.51
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    Originally posted by Mr Shh
    How are two RAW wrestlers able to negotiate a match that will contractually obligate the winner to wrestle a Smackdown wrestler?
    (edited by Mr Shh on 17.2.09 2047)


To be fair, as of now I believe the actual language used is that the winner earns the right to *challenge* the Undertaker at Wrestlemania.
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#52 Posted on 17.2.09 2108.41
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Oh man, it's amazing what is possible when you straight up google I Can't Catch Any Fruit. Legit hadn't seen that since it happened.

    Originally posted by Mr Shh
    How will Randy Orton go from being scared shitless at the end of the show last night to choosing to challenge HHH? Remember, it's Orton's *choice*. Why would he *choose* to wrestle HHH? If the belt was on the other waist, then yes, of course, HHH chooses to challenge Orton. This? I'm not sure yet.


They should do a thing where Orton and Edge agree to wrestle each other at first, causing Triple H and Cena to freak.


    Originally posted by Hokienautic
      Originally posted by Mr Shh
      How are two RAW wrestlers able to negotiate a match that will contractually obligate the winner to wrestle a Smackdown wrestler?
      (edited by Mr Shh on 17.2.09 2047)


    To be fair, as of now I believe the actual language used is that the winner earns the right to *challenge* the Undertaker at Wrestlemania.


Right, they're just wrestling for the right to say "YOU AND ME SHOULD FIGHT, THE DEAD MAN." Undertaker could conceivably still be like "Rest ... in ... NO. *bong*"

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#53 Posted on 17.2.09 2218.15
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    Originally posted by eventhis
      Originally posted by odessasteps
        Originally posted by Kevintripod
          Originally posted by Tenken347
          I know I'm supposed to understand that Randy Orton's punt is the most devastating move in the entire history of professional wrestling, but COME ON. It's a kick to the head. I saw Randy get hit in the head with a ring bell last night, and he was able to shrug that off in like a minute. A kick to the head warrants a stretcher-job, though?


        I always figured Orton's kick to the head was devastating because it was going into the victims temple.

        (edited by Kevintripod on 17.2.09 1544)


      I just assume "his kick" > everyone else's kicks.

      It's like how people can use a move in their matches and "it's just a move" but it's also someone's finisher.


    I could buy into this, if Orton's own finisher didn't seem much more devasting than that punt. Hell, that rope-assisted DDT that he's been doing lately looks worse.

    That's not to say a running kick to the head wouldn't hurt like hell, and possible knock someone out...but when you see CM Punk cracking guys upside their heads with his kicks, and Big Show hitting guys in the face with a closed fist that's a lot bigger than Orton's foot...well, suspension of disbelief only goes so far.


Yeah, that's exactly what I'm talking about. I'd buy Randy's kick as a finisher - I'd even buy it as a particularly feared finisher based on the build up they've been giving it. But as a move that's supposed to put people in the hospital for extended periods of time, it just doesn't work for me. Randy took two shots to the temple from a ring bell, but that is somehow substantially less powerful than his own running kick. It just doesn't stand up compared to what else went on in the match, let alone what else is happening within the company.
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#54 Posted on 18.2.09 0446.40
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    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
    Oh man, it's amazing what is possible when you straight up google I Can't Catch Any Fruit. Legit hadn't seen that since it happened.


YES. Boy, my recap was surprisingly accurate. The mocking delivery of "BOB" is also worth noting, especially considering the fact that I think he was going exclusively by Hardcore Holly at that point.

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#55 Posted on 22.2.09 0139.06
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I know I'm late to this party, but was I the only one who noticed this unfortunate wardrobe situation of Stephanie's?

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(click to exaggerate)

OR! Was I just the only one juvenile enough to try to make something out of it? ;-)
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#56 Posted on 22.2.09 0356.54
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    Originally posted by CRZ
    I know I'm late to this party, but was I the only one who noticed this unfortunate wardrobe situation of Stephanie's?


As far as I can tell through an extensive zoom in test, that's just a crease in her pants, not her...well, you know, as it's not center, more to the right.

Nice pic though
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#57 Posted on 22.2.09 0757.55
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Nice name for the pic, too ;)
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