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#1 Posted on 11.2.09 0937.59
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Favre's agent informs Jets that he plans to retire (sports.espn.go.com)

So, does he stick with it this time? Or do we get July drama again this year?
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#2 Posted on 11.2.09 1217.21
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There have been a ton of reports around the Twin Cities over the last month that he's telling friends that he wants the Jets to release him so that he can play in Minnesota next year, which is pretty much what he tried to do last year too.

I'm not sure how I feel about that.
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#3 Posted on 11.2.09 1835.17
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I'll wait until mid-August before feeling a need to comment more than this.
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#4 Posted on 11.2.09 2135.26
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Will the similar plan be used: Have the Jets spend up towards the cap, have Favre plant stories with his sycophants (Mr. King, Mr Favre is on line 1; Mr Mortenson, Mr Favre on line 2), then force the Jets hand so he gets released rather than the Jets having to cut players to put salary back under the cap?
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#5 Posted on 12.2.09 0136.17
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My question to you is, if Favre did pull the "I'm retiring; release me" thing with the Jets with the intention of promptly un-retiring and joining the Vikings, would the Vikings really want to put up with his bullshit? It could happen to you too, Minnesota.
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#6 Posted on 12.2.09 0156.30
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Honestly? Staring down the prospect of Year Three of the Tarvaris Jackson Experience: Yes. I'd take Favre in in instant, especially since he'd be twice the quarterback that Frerotte was in relief of Jackson earlier this year, and even if he does throw four picks a game, that's midigated by our good defense.

I'd rather the Vikings made a play for Hasselbeck or a draft pick, but if push comes to shove, I wouldn't say no to Favre, drama or no.

On the other hand, I hate Bret Favre, and I don't know that I'd particularily enjoy cheering for him to do well.

(edited by Excalibur05 on 12.2.09 0158)
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#7 Posted on 12.2.09 0208.57
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    Originally posted by Excalibur05
    Honestly? Staring down the prospect of Year Three of the Tarvaris Jackson Experience: Yes. I'd take Favre in in instant, especially since he'd be twice the quarterback that Frerotte was in relief of Jackson earlier this year, and even if he does throw four picks a game, that's midigated by our good defense.

    I'd rather the Vikings made a play for Hasselbeck or a draft pick, but if push comes to shove, I wouldn't say no to Favre, drama or no.

    On the other hand, I hate Bret Favre, and I don't know that I'd particularily enjoy cheering for him to do well.

    (edited by Excalibur05 on 12.2.09 0158)


I don't understand the love for Favre. He was great at one point, sure. But his touchdown-to-interception ratio has been 1:1 or worse in three of the past four seasons. He's posted decent completion percentages - some years very good, actually - but it doesn't make up for either the drama or the habit of throwing crippling picks in every big game he plays in for the past decade. He is not good enough at this stage in his career to justify acting the way he does, in my opinion.
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#8 Posted on 12.2.09 0734.07
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    Originally posted by Excalibur05
    Honestly? Staring down the prospect of Year Three of the Tarvaris Jackson Experience: Yes. I'd take Favre in in instant, especially since he'd be twice the quarterback that Frerotte was in relief of Jackson earlier this year, and even if he does throw four picks a game, that's midigated by our good defense.

    I'd rather the Vikings made a play for Hasselbeck or a draft pick, but if push comes to shove, I wouldn't say no to Favre, drama or no.

    On the other hand, I hate Bret Favre, and I don't know that I'd particularily enjoy cheering for him to do well.


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#9 Posted on 12.2.09 0843.06
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The difference between this season and last is that Favre holds more of the cards. Last season the Pack were well below the cap and could have absorbed Favre's salary if that was what they wanted to do.

If Favre hadn't retired the Jets would have been forced to either release him or rework a bunch of contract and/or release other players.

If the Jets proceed now as if Favre is truely intent on staying retired, Favre can wait until the start of the league year and then say that he changed his mind and the Jets will have only 24 hours to become cap compliant.

Or the Jets can proceed as if Brett might come back, and keep themselves at least 13 mil under the cap. Hambstringing themselves in FA and in dealing with their current players.

[sarcasm]The trade for Favre looks better for the Jets every day.[/sarcasm]
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#10 Posted on 12.2.09 0926.09
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    Originally posted by brick
    If Favre hadn't retired the Jets would have been forced to either release him or rework a bunch of contract and/or release other players.


So you're saying he could have told them that he wanted to play another year and they might have released him. But instead, he's going to pretend to retire and then try to come back a couple months later, destroying even more credibility, just to guarantee that he gets released. And all that so that he can once again join a new team and learn a new system without the benefit of training camp.

I have to say, that seems a little far-fetched.
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#11 Posted on 12.2.09 1023.27
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    Originally posted by Mr. Boffo
      Originally posted by brick
      If Favre hadn't retired the Jets would have been forced to either release him or rework a bunch of contract and/or release other players.


    So you're saying he could have told them that he wanted to play another year and they might have released him. But instead, he's going to pretend to retire and then try to come back a couple months later, destroying even more credibility, just to guarantee that he gets released. And all that so that he can once again join a new team and learn a new system without the benefit of training camp.

    I have to say, that seems a little far-fetched.


He doesn't have to wait that long, the new league year starts in about a week, which is why you see so many teams cutting players right now to create some cap room.

Reports are that he asked for his unconditional release before retiring, when not granted that release he retired. It is completely possible that Brett knows he has the Jets over a barrel, and this is just the latest move to further solidify his possition.

I'm sure my perspective on this has been clouded by my disdane for the way Brett has operated the past few years.
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#12 Posted on 12.2.09 1536.39
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Folks...I was on the conference call w/ Favre yesterday.

He's done. His shoulder need surgery if he wants to continue in the NFL; he doesn't wanna do it.

He's done. For real this time.
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#13 Posted on 12.2.09 1601.10
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Sigh...Favre could have retired last year. Sure, he went out on an interception, but Dan Marino went out on a 62-7 loss. He was still the best QB that team had seen in decades, having spent his whole career leading the Packers to playoffs and a championship. He would have been a god in Green Bay, having his number retired in a ceremony unlike any other the town had seen.

Instead, he pissed it away, forcing a "Trade Me" scenario when the Packers management understandably didn't want to put up with his retirement drama anymore. He went to the Jets, where he promptly led the way for one of their biggest late-season collapses in recent memory, only overshadowed by the Broncos' even bigger collapse. He now retires a broken-down man, with a good chunk of the Green Bay fanbase marginalized. Instead of a unanimous standing ovation that his retirement ceremony would have gotten, now a bunch of Packers fans will see Favre as the guy that tried to force a trade to the Vikings, just so he could stick it to their team. They'll never trust him again.

Was it worth it, Brett? Was it really worth it?

(edited by It's False on 12.2.09 1402)
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#14 Posted on 12.2.09 2105.02
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    Originally posted by It's False
    Sigh...Favre could have retired last year. Sure, he went out on an interception, but Dan Marino went out on a 62-7 loss.


Much like a postseason loss was the perfect ending for Dan Marino's career, I can't think of a more fitting way for Favre to go out then by throwing a crippling interception in a critical game.
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#15 Posted on 13.2.09 1211.00
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my new favorite columnist for today

http://blogs.ajc.com/mark-bradley-blog/2009/02/12/favre-retires-again-say-its-so-brett-say-its-so/

"Brett Favre is the most overrated athlete of our time.

More overrated than Nolan Ryan. More overrated than Patrick Ewing. More overrated than Ryne Sandberg. More overrated than James Worthy. More overrated than A-Rod."
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#16 Posted on 13.2.09 1732.05
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And Atlanta is still mad they gave up on him after one season. So I discount the fool.
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#17 Posted on 16.2.09 1648.35
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    Originally posted by TheBucsFan
    Much like a postseason loss was the perfect ending for Dan Marino's career, I can't think of a more fitting way for Favre to go out then by throwing a crippling interception in a critical game.


As a Jets fan, that absolutely scathes.

And yes, I foresaw this when I heard Brett was donning the Kelly Green (er, without gold trim). However, the Jets are in a position where they only need an acceptable quarterback now, as opposed to how they have been. Their recieving corps isn't bad, though still missing a true deep threat, but they have a strong line with some good backs, and defensive personel that can actually stand up and do something. Sure, Clemens may or may not be the QB of the future, but there are plenty of other guys out there right now pre-draft that can step up and play the position for the team.

40 years without even being in the big game. Go JETS.
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