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The 7 - Football - AFC DIVISIONAL ROUND: Baltimore Ravens 13, Tennessee Titans 10
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#1 Posted on 10.1.09 1844.49
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Well, still not knowing so much about either team, let me just make the obvious point - the Ravens made less mistakes, so they won. That has to be heartbreaking for the Titans to march down the field only to give it over not once but twice. Hey, that Flacco guy, good for him. I hear there are other people on that team as well! Like Matt Stover - he's collecting social security, isn't he? Because he's old! Ha!

OK. Ravens moving on - but to where? That's another thread for another day.

EDIT: They brought it up AGAIN in the postgame, so let me get out and give you my only opinion that matters - I totally understand the "delay of game" non-call and don't have an issue with it, but that's likely because I had no horse in this game. Titans fans may see things quite differently, no thanks to Dan "Bombast" Dierdorf's initial exaggeration of how much time elapsed between the 0 and the snap - at least he revised his estimate later...

(edited by CRZ on 10.1.09 1852)
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#2 Posted on 10.1.09 1849.49
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That was truly an ugly game, but it was played as expected. Lots of penalties and bad ball security doomed the Titans. So Baltimore finds out by 4:30 PST where they have to go. I think it will be Pittsburgh.

When they flashed that Matt Stover graphic, I had to do a double-take. He hit his career long in 1991??? Man, I'm old! Get off my lawn, you punk kids!
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#3 Posted on 10.1.09 1854.45
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damnit damnit damnit ...

that's all I've got.
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#4 Posted on 10.1.09 1920.03
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The Titans are going to wish they had this game back. They completely killed themselves in this one. Fans will bitch about the no call, but still... should have never gotten to that point.

GO RAVENS
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#5 Posted on 10.1.09 1929.29
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Dammit, dammit, dammit. Go Chargers, you're my only hope now.
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#6 Posted on 10.1.09 2109.50
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    Originally posted by CRZ
    EDIT: They brought it up AGAIN in the postgame, so let me get out and give you my only opinion that matters - I totally understand the "delay of game" non-call and don't have an issue with it, but that's likely because I had no horse in this game. Titans fans may see things quite differently, no thanks to Dan "Bombast" Dierdorf's initial exaggeration of how much time elapsed between the 0 and the snap - at least he revised his estimate later...

    (edited by CRZ on 10.1.09 1852)

One of the things that I do when I'm at a game is count down the play clock as it gets under 5. This talk that there's a period where the ref needs to look at the clock, then look for a snap, is BS. It has happened OCCASIONALLY, but it is far from the norm.

Bottom line is that they blew the call, big time.
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#7 Posted on 10.1.09 2117.16
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It was nice to actually be on the receiving end of a non-call, instead of getting screwed by the refs like we usually do.

Of course, if the Titans weren't -3 on turnovers, we would have lost. But hey, dems the breaks.

Bring on Pittsburgh.
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#8 Posted on 10.1.09 2333.00
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The Titans surely shouldn't have turned the ball over 500 times, but when the difference in the final score is a mere field goal, and when that field goal came after the controversial non-call in question, I don't see how anyone can say it didn't potentially cost the Titans the game.

- StingArmy
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#9 Posted on 10.1.09 2348.37
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    Originally posted by StingArmy
    The Titans surely shouldn't have turned the ball over 500 times, but when the difference in the final score is a mere field goal, and when that field goal came after the controversial non-call in question, I don't see how anyone can say it didn't potentially cost the Titans the game.

    - StingArmy


Because the Ravens weren't in field goal range when it happened.
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#10 Posted on 11.1.09 0107.25
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    Originally posted by Psycho Penguin
    Because the Ravens weren't in field goal range when it happened.

I can't tell if you're saying it didn't cost the Titans the game because the Ravens weren't in field goal range yet or if you are being smarky and suggesting that the Ravens were well within field goal range, with or without a 5-yard delay of game penalty. I hope it's not the latter, unless you are suggesting that Matt Stover can kick 90-yard field goals.

But if it's the former, I'll still say it obviously mattered. It is much harder to defend against a 3rd-and-2 play than it is against a a 3rd-and-7 play. On 3rd-and-2, the offense still has the option to run, and they can run just about anything (up the gut, sweep, end-around, draw, sneak, etc.). On 3rd-and-7, you best believe it's time to pass. Far less likely the Ravens would have converted, and the game being tied, they would have punted it back to the Titans.

So whichever meaning you intended your reply to take, you're probably wrong.

- StingArmy
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#11 Posted on 11.1.09 0143.02
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    Originally posted by CRZ
    They brought it up AGAIN in the postgame, so let me get out and give you my only opinion that matters - I totally understand the "delay of game" non-call and don't have an issue with it, but that's likely because I had no horse in this game. Titans fans may see things quite differently, no thanks to Dan "Bombast" Dierdorf's initial exaggeration of how much time elapsed between the 0 and the snap - at least he revised his estimate later...


My internal clock deemed it acceptable. For what it`s worth, with regards to last week, my internal clock deemed the Atlanta safety acceptable, and the Philly sack unacceptable.
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#12 Posted on 11.1.09 0154.42
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Clock calls/non-calls are always annoying. The Ravens won this non-call, but in all seriousness, I don't think it mattered as much as Titans fans will make it seem. On 3rd and 7, you don't always have to pass. True, Flacco is your QB, but a run is a legit option considering that the Titans D will most like brace against the pass, so a Shotgun draw is a very legit play in that situation. If they get the 5 back, no problem.

I agree with those who said they didn't see a problem with the non-call. It's completely subjective and plenty of teams that I've rooted for have been screwed over by the refs, even at home. It's part of the game.

I hope the Steelers win because Ravens-Steelers will be a bloodbath and completely awesome to watch even if the final score is 6-3.
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#13 Posted on 11.1.09 0844.51
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    Originally posted by StingArmy
    < I hope it's not the latter, unless you are suggesting that Matt Stover can kick 90-yard field goals.


They have two kickers on the roster. Stover handles XPs and short FGs and the other dude does KOs and 45+ yard FGs. He missed one from 53 and hit one from 54 this year.
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#14 Posted on 11.1.09 1059.42
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    Originally posted by Zeruel
    They have two kickers on the roster. Stover handles XPs and short FGs and the other dude does KOs and 45+ yard FGs. He missed one from 53 and hit one from 54 this year.
And in practice he has hit from 57, and he had the wind to his back, so Haushcka might have been able to hit it from 60. But I wouldn't have wanted to put a playoff game in the hands of a rookie kicker with two career attempts...
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#15 Posted on 11.1.09 1208.18
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I can't believe old man Stover won it for the Ravens again. I loved when they were showing his stats and said his longest field goal was in 1991. 1991!!!!

Was it just me or did Dierdorf want to marry the Titans? You would have thought Kerry Collins was Tim Tebow the way Dierdorf was talking about him.
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#16 Posted on 11.1.09 1242.16
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Not only was the play clock call an issue, we thought for sure Flacco stepped out of bounds in the back of the end zone also late in the game. But when the Titans sideline didn't seem concerned about it, the announcers didn't mention it and there was no replay, it made us think maybe it wasn't as close as we thought.
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#17 Posted on 11.1.09 1426.21
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I meant that the Ravens were not in field goal range when it happened. There were other plays going on before and after also! It wasn't like that one magical call was the deciding factor. It was a bad no call. It did NOT cost the Titans the game.

The Ravens got a 5 yard penalty right after the play, and still needed another play or two to even get in field goal range.

Maybe the Titans should start wondering why they had three red zone possessions result in zero points. They know why they lost, now it's up to everyone else to accept.

How many Titans complained about the no call after the game?

geemoney: It did look a little like it also, but the coaches for the Titans said it wasn't close, and the TV crew never showed us enough replays for me to make an accurate determination. But yes, he did step CLOSE to out, and I think he may have stepped out after throwing the ball.

(edited by Psycho Penguin on 11.1.09 1528)
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#18 Posted on 11.1.09 1900.54
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RE: stepping out of bounds.


I thought the same and because Fisher didn't challenge it, I figured we got a lucky break.

In the post game Boomer showed a reverse angle because he said everyone in the studio thought it was a safety. Flacco came REALLY close to it, but was in bounds the whole time. We got lucky with that one.
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#19 Posted on 11.1.09 2052.24
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It's looking like the blown "Delay of Game" call is starting to pick up steam within the sports media (a.k.a. ESPN), so I guess I'll throw this question out there...

If the play clock had expired, couldn't Jeff Fisher have challenged it? Especially after he saw what resulted from it?

(edited by It's False on 11.1.09 1853)
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#20 Posted on 11.1.09 2103.18
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    Originally posted by It's False
    It's looking like the blown "Delay of Game" call is starting to pick up steam within the sports media (a.k.a. ESPN), so I guess I'll throw this question out there...

    If the play clock had expired, couldn't Jeff Fisher have challenged it? Especially after he saw what resulted from it?

    (edited by It's False on 11.1.09 1853)


I can't find a copy of the full rules online, but from what "everyone" has been saying, my understanding is that penalties aren't reviewable. Now, if he reviewed something about the play, like spot of the ball or if it was a legal catch, and they happen to see an infraction during the replay, the penalty can be called. I'm not sure if the delay of game would be able to be called. NFL.com only has a summary of rules on their site.
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