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#1 Posted on 27.6.07 1027.10
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Well, someone went out and ranked all 30 of the league's GMs. Rather than give the whole article, here's a quick list of the ranks.

1 R.C. Buford, San Antonio Spurs
2 Donnie Nelson, Dallas Mavericks
3 Joe Dumars, Detroit Pistons
4 Bryan Colangelo, Toronto Raptors
5 John Paxson, Chicago Bulls
6 Geoff Petrie, Sacramento Kings
7 Pat Riley, Miami Heat
8 Rod Thorn, New Jersey Nets
9 Kevin Pritchard, Portland Trail Blazers
10 Kevin O'Connor, Utah Jazz
11 Ernie Grunfeld, Washington Wizards
12 Mark Warkentien, Denver Nuggets
13 Sam Presti, Seattle SuperSonics
14 Jeff Bower, New Orleans Hornets
15 Larry Harris, Milwaukee Bucks
16 Daryl Morey, Houston Rockets
17 Chris Mullin, Golden State Warriors
18 Steve Kerr, Phoenix Suns
19 Elgin Baylor, Los Angeles Clippers
20 Danny Ferry, Cleveland Cavaliers
21 Larry Bird, Indiana Pacers
22 Danny Ainge, Boston Celtics
23 Mitch Kupchak, Los Angeles Lakers
24 Otis Smith, Orlando Magic
25 Isiah Thomas, New York Knicks
26 Billy King, Philadelphia 76ers
27 Chris Wallace, Memphis Grizzlies
28 Billy Knight, Atlanta Hawks
29 Michael Jordan, Charlotte Bobcats
30 Kevin McHale, Minneosta Timberwolves

No big surprises in that list.

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#2 Posted on 27.6.07 1140.26
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I'm going to stick up for Jordan a bit here, because unlike the guys grouped around his area, he hasn't made some franchise killing moves. The Bobcats are just an expansion team, and about how far you'd expect them to be along. They ought to be competitive in 2007-2008 and there's problems if they're not, but I think he's getting ranked lower based on rep rather than results. I wouldn't have him higher than 23ish, because he hasn't proven anything either way.

Then again, Kevin Pritchard gets rated 9 and he just became GM five minutes ago, so it seems like the list is heavily based on personal opinion and not much to tangible achievements.
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#3 Posted on 27.6.07 1214.42
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23rd for Mitch Kupchak sounds about right. But then when I think about:

-The way he screwed up Boozer-to-L.A.
-The way he screwed up Baron Davis-to-L.A.
-The way he screwed up Artest-to-L.A.
-The way he screwed up Garnett-to-L.A.
-Trading Shaq for pennies on the dollar. Two years later, Shaq wins Miami its first title and Odom's the only guy from the trade still left in L.A.
-Trading Caron Butler for Kwame Brown. Today, Butler's a 20-10 guy for Washington and Kwame's STILL a huge bust.
-Trading for Brian Grant's huge contract.
-Pissing off the only star power the Lakers have left to the point that he's demanded a trade.

He's definitely the worst GM in Lakers history. But 23rd sounds about right on a list that contains Kevin McHale and Billy King.

And isn't it a little early to be ranking Steve Kerr? Good lord, the man just started a few weeks ago!
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#4 Posted on 27.6.07 1645.58
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Funny enough, a friend of mine called me at work today and told me about a proposed Amare-to-Atlanta deal. I immediately told him that I hated the idea without even thinking about it or really looking at the details first. Why? Because if Billy Knight does it, it stinks. It's almost guaranteed to be a bad idea. He should be #30.

- StingArmy

P.S. - For the record, I think the proposed trade my friend told me about was Atlanta's #3 and #11 picks to Minnesota, Amare to Atlanta, Kevin Garnett to Phoenix, and a couple of cap-friendly contracts from Atlanta and Phoenix to Minnesota. The end result is that Atlanta loses BOTH of its lottery picks, gets another 6'9"+ power forwardish guy, and once again doesn't have a point guard. A slight improvement on the past several draft disasters, but it's nonetheless same shit, different day.
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#5 Posted on 27.6.07 1742.23
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Are the Raptors really that good that their GM is number 4?
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#6 Posted on 27.6.07 1752.49
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    Originally posted by StaggerLee
    Are the Raptors really that good that their GM is number 4?

Remember - He built the Suns before he left to take over the Raptors, winning an Exec of the year with Phx and with Toronto.
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#7 Posted on 27.6.07 2124.31
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My biggest question marks are:
6 Geoff Petrie, Sacramento Kings
7 Pat Riley, Miami Heat

The Kings and Miami are stagnating at best.
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#8 Posted on 28.6.07 0903.33
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    Originally posted by StaggerLee
    Are the Raptors really that good that their GM is number 4?

Certainly as Java points out, he is the main architect of what is now the Suns team....

In terms of Toronto,

He took over a Raptors team that was a league doormat at 27-55 and turned them into the Atlantic Division champs at 47-35.

Not only that, but has seemingly given hope to the Toronto Basketball community by signing players who are young and have a huge upside, as opposed to the previous regime that brought in old, broken down players, who really didn't seem to want to be here.

I would've thought he is higher on the list, but then looking at the 3 above-him, all makes sense...
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#9 Posted on 28.6.07 0933.19
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I found Sam Presti's ranking odd, considering he's been a GM for about three weeks. Why would he be five spots higher than Steve Kerr?
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#10 Posted on 28.6.07 1416.37
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    Originally posted by JayJayDean
    I found Sam Presti's ranking odd, considering he's been a GM for about three weeks. Why would he be five spots higher than Steve Kerr?

Presumably based on projection. Not to mention his length, his topside, his tremendous upside poten-- (slaps the Chad Ford out of him)

I'll say in part because he hasn't screwed his team up yet, and in part because he's a stat guy and riding the sabermetric wave.
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#11 Posted on 28.6.07 2123.33
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No, Jordan hasn't had much time with the Bobcats and they are an expansion team but before that he screwed up the Wizards and set them back several years so I'd say he deserves the ranking.

Edit: And now Rick Bucher is reporting that the Bobcats are trying to trade Brandan Wright for Jason Richardson. This is why Jordan isn't any good.

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#12 Posted on 29.6.07 0042.50
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Man, the NBA has some truly horrible GMs. Everyone from Baylor on down is terrible at their job. What does it say when Elgin Baylor isn't even in the bottom third?
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#13 Posted on 29.6.07 0146.55
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I wonder where Jerry West would be ranked if he hadn't stepped down from the Grizzlies' post?
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#14 Posted on 29.6.07 1820.57
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    Originally posted by Merc
    My biggest question marks are:
    6 Geoff Petrie, Sacramento Kings
    7 Pat Riley, Miami Heat

    The Kings and Miami are stagnating at best.

Although in Riley's case, it's worth remembering what a graveyard Miami was when he arrived 12 years ago. At which point he traded for and built the team around Mourning and later traded for Shaq and didn't fear making bold gestures in order to win championships (although drafting that guy from Marquette in 03 didn't hurt much either) as well as finding guys on the scrap heap and having them blossom into contributors. Even if it only worked once, that's one more time than most organizations.

He's probably going to feel the need to make another big move in the next season or so to spark things, but at least they have no question who their franchise player is right now.

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