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|  #1 Posted on 19.8.06 0118.24
Reposted on: 19.8.13 0119.16 | Was bumping around online, and managed to stumble across a story updating the Chris Masters situation, and thought I'd pass it along..
from dailywrestling.com:
Chris Masters has been off WWE TV for several weeks as a result of a failed "Wellness" drug test. It was reported that Masters tested positive for muscle-enhancing drugs, rumored to be anabolic steroids. Last night, Masters made his return to the ring at a TV taping for OVW. After sitting out his suspension and getting off the performance enhancing drugs, Masters' appearance has changed drastically - to the point where it would be impossible to keep his "Masterpiece" gimmick.
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Yikes. Definitely a difference, but I still think the new Rene Dupree was a lot more shocking. | Promote this thread! |             | mercer
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| #2 Posted on 19.8.06 0716.00
Reposted on: 19.8.13 0716.35 | Well, thank God for the fact that his wrestling ability completely makes up for his lack of body. 
Hey can we now get a cup for john cena to piss in so we can finally get him off tv. I dont WANT to see him! | Tenken347
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| #3 Posted on 19.8.06 1023.55
Reposted on: 19.8.13 1025.36 | | Cena's actually already quite a bit smaller than he used to be. Remember, the wellness program only requires that you have less in your system than each previous test, not that you quit cold turkey. | ICEMAN
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| #4 Posted on 19.8.06 1203.47
Reposted on: 19.8.13 1204.38 | That is just freaky. He now looks like a buffed up Kurt Warner. And has anyone else noticed that Bastista looks smaller since he has come back ? I don't know if it was the inability to work out or "other" things.
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|  #5 Posted on 19.8.06 1446.23
Reposted on: 19.8.13 1449.43 | See, the thing is, from that angle it really is hard to tell how much smaller he's gotten. Certainly he looks smaller, but I'm going to need a better angle before I give it a yikes. As for Cena looking smaller, the same was said about Angle and I just don't see it. Batista, yeah, a bit.
Dupree I haven't seen... | Mayhem
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| #6 Posted on 19.8.06 1850.49
Reposted on: 19.8.13 1853.21 |
Masters looks like he has more hair. | Jim Smith
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| #7 Posted on 19.8.06 1932.21
Reposted on: 19.8.13 1932.45 | He could continue the Masterpiece gimmick for as long as he's capable of acting like he thinks he's a work of art, regardless of whether it's true. He could go on an all-Twinkie diet and balloon to a flabby 350 pounds, but as long as he has the self-important music and posing, he'd be as much the Masterpiece as Buddy Rose was a Playboy.
The real threat to the gimmick isn't his loss of size and muscle tone. It's that coming back like nothing changed would be like hanging a big neon "YOU TOOK STEROIDS" sign above his head during his matches. WWE will want to obscure that with a particularly distracting repackaging. It seems to have worked with Rene Dupree, because I hadn't even noticed any change in size because I was too busy thinking "Why the hell is Rene Dupree on ECW?"
Now I'm wondering if he'll keep the Masterlock as a finisher. On the one hand, the whole point was that such a simple hold is devastating when applied by such a genetic marvel, so that psychology will be gone now. On the other hand, the move was getting over because it almost always led to the finish. Did they ever truly blow off the Masterlock challenge, because if they do now it's going to seem a little tainted. | CHAPLOW
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| #8 Posted on 20.8.06 0003.48
Reposted on: 20.8.13 0008.18 | | Well if the link to the image wasnt broken there chuck, I would tell you how much of a chance I think he has. | Derrick
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| #9 Posted on 20.8.06 0822.24
Reposted on: 20.8.13 0824.56 | Who the hell is Chuck? I can see the photo just fine myself. Too bad it wasn't a better angle so we could see how much definition he lost.
Originally posted by Jim Smith
The real threat to the gimmick isn't his loss of size and muscle tone. It's that coming back like nothing changed would be like hanging a big neon "YOU TOOK STEROIDS" sign above his head during his matches. WWE will want to obscure that with a particularly distracting repackaging. It seems to have worked with Rene Dupree, because I hadn't even noticed any change in size because I was too busy thinking "Why the hell is Rene Dupree on ECW?"
Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad
Dupree I haven't seen...
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Wow Dupree doesn't even look like the same dude. They could have renamed him before he came out and I woulda never knew who he was.
Most of the guys who lost a large amount of mass probably relied on the juice too much. They probably are/were a little more lazy in the gym compared to others. | oldschoolhero
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|  #10 Posted on 20.8.06 1210.39
Reposted on: 20.8.13 1212.24 | | Dupree looks smaller there, but in his vignette on this week's ECW he didn't look far off the size he was when we last saw him. He's still in amazing shape, with muscles all over the place. I think that was just a bad angle. | JustinShapiro
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| #11 Posted on 20.8.06 1338.02
Reposted on: 20.8.13 1339.45 | Originally posted by Derrick
Most of the guys who lost a large amount of mass probably relied on the juice too much. They probably are/were a little more lazy in the gym compared to others.
Well, I don't think you can be lazy in the gym and attain that much muscle mass. Steroids give you more energy and quicker recovery time so you can work out harder on a more frequent schedule. And then there are other drugs that let you keep the fat off while you're putting on mass.
It is curious indeed that the two of the three Masterpiece physiques we'll see at SummerSlam, along with John Cena, will be Vince McMahon's and Hulk Hogan's.
(edited by JustinShapiro on 20.8.06 1441) | The Vile1
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| #12 Posted on 20.8.06 1549.56
Reposted on: 20.8.13 1551.42 | | His muscles are going to with his push as well. His steroid use is the reason he got used as much as he did. | CHAPLOW
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| #13 Posted on 20.8.06 1604.53
Reposted on: 20.8.13 1605.44 | Originally posted by Derrick
Who the hell is Chuck? I can see the photo just fine myself.
Peanuts reference.
Yea... so can I see the pic, NOW... not befoh.
Here's the plan Chris, drop 200 more pounds to the point where you're hopelessly skinny, and carry on with the Masterpiece gimmick. Brilliant! | ekedolphin
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| #14 Posted on 20.8.06 2358.31
Reposted on: 20.8.13 2358.47 | | If these means we no longer have to listen to Lawler verbally fellate Masters every time his entrance music plays, I'm all for him losing the Masterpiece physique. | GodEatGod
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| #15 Posted on 23.8.06 1221.46
Reposted on: 23.8.13 1222.32 | | Actually, if they wanted to make him a delusional Masterpiece, Lawler continuing to fellate him would be all the funnier. "What're you talkin' about, JR?! Look at him, he's built like a Greek God!". | CHAPLOW
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| #16 Posted on 23.8.06 1427.46
Reposted on: 23.8.13 1428.18 | Originally posted by GodEatGod
Actually, if they wanted to make him a delusional Masterpiece, Lawler continuing to fellate him would be all the funnier. "What're you talkin' about, JR?! Look at him, he's built like a Greek God!".
lol exactly, I would get a lot of laughs out of an angle like that. | Derrick
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| #17 Posted on 23.8.06 1458.50
Reposted on: 23.8.13 1459.03 | Originally posted by JustinShapiro
Originally posted by Derrick
Most of the guys who lost a large amount of mass probably relied on the juice too much. They probably are/were a little more lazy in the gym compared to others.
Well, I don't think you can be lazy in the gym and attain that much muscle mass. Steroids give you more energy and quicker recovery time so you can work out harder on a more frequent schedule. And then there are other drugs that let you keep the fat off while you're putting on mass.
It is curious indeed that the two of the three Masterpiece physiques we'll see at SummerSlam, along with John Cena, will be Vince McMahon's and Hulk Hogan's.
(edited by JustinShapiro on 20.8.06 1441)
No what I meant was the guys who lost alot of mass are probably lazier than the guys who didn't lose that kind of size. Im positive that the few we have noticed are not the only ones who were juicin it up pre-wellness. So basically the ones who didn't really change just worked harder to keep their size while these guys didn't. | Tenken347
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| #18 Posted on 23.8.06 2134.09
Reposted on: 23.8.13 2134.10 | Originally posted by Derrick
No what I meant was the guys who lost alot of mass are probably lazier than the guys who didn't lose that kind of size. Im positive that the few we have noticed are not the only ones who were juicin it up pre-wellness. So basically the ones who didn't really change just worked harder to keep their size while these guys didn't.
Not necessarily. Again, because the program only requires you to have sequentially lower results with every test, I think we're just seeing guys go off the juice at different rates. Some guys are weening themselves down, but I figure some guys like Dupree and Masters are probably just going cold turkey. After all, if they can't keep their monster physiques without the juice, what would be the point trying to hold those gimmicks and wrestling styles as they get smaller and smaller? | kingleo
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| #19 Posted on 23.8.06 2317.43
Reposted on: 23.8.13 2318.12 | Originally posted by Tenken347
what would be the point trying to hold those gimmicks and wrestling styles as they get smaller and smaller?
Maybe they're just hoping nobody notices? | CHAPLOW
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| #20 Posted on 24.8.06 0854.27
Reposted on: 24.8.13 0855.39 | Originally posted by Tenken347
what would be the point trying to hold those gimmicks and wrestling styles as they get smaller and smaller?
well, idk about the wrestling style- but like I said, if Masters held on to the gimmick it could be pretty entertaining. | | ALL ORIGINAL POSTS IN THIS THREAD ARE NOW AVAILABLE |
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