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#61 Posted on 4.7.06 2356.59
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And now, ECW.com is announcing that RVD has been suspended for 30 days, though they announced it through a kayfabe article in which Paul Heyman was the one doing the suspending.
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#62 Posted on 5.7.06 0130.49
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This sucks! This sucks big time!
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#63 Posted on 5.7.06 0700.49
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With the amount of sexism, racism, blasphemy and, more obviously, violence there is on WWE programming for people to imitate the issue of whether they promote little bit of marijuana use seems to be a moot point.

All they need to do now is insert RVD's voice saying "I got busted then lost my WWE title a couple of days later" in between "How do you learn to fall off a 20ft ladder!?" and "I ruptured a disc which fragmented into my spinal column" in the DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME montage.

Because the important thing to remember definitely seems to be "Don't be a bonehead, don't be a clown".
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#64 Posted on 5.7.06 0705.32
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    Originally posted by TheBucsFan
    Look, there are two related but completely different stupid, ignorant mistakes here. One was on van Dam getting busted, the other was on WWE for putting two of its top three belts on a man they *promoted* as a guy that habitually does something the company says it would fire him for.


RVD has not, up until this point, been habitually busted by the cops for possession. That's what the fed have a problem with.
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#65 Posted on 5.7.06 0928.07
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This is a very sad thing, for both men. Van Dam is a great performer...a guy that really is "One of a Kind." He busted his ass for years and ignored attempts to change his style or attempts to get him to wrestle less stiff. He was the most popular guy in ECW's history. Vince McMahon finally got behind him. The WWE gave him two world titles and relaunched an ENTIRE TOURING BRAND around him. They put him over all the top stars and portrayed him as an equal to the Cenas, Edges and Angles in the company. Then he got arrested for drug use. Debating whether or not WWE promotes drug use (they do and have in the past through storylines and characters) is irrelevant to the larger issue. It's against the law and it's against company policy. Simple as that. Van Dam and Sabu had NO defense here. They knew the rules and the choose to break them. Sandman drinks in the ring, and that's against the Wellness program...I guarantee you that Sandman doesn't come to the arena tanked. My job doesn't test for drugs (beyond your initial hire) but if I got arrested for drug use, I would be fired. Van Dam is a guy in his 30s and he got arrested for pills and weed, like any common street person or jobless teenager. It was sad watching him these last two nights, fighting in a town that embraced him like no other. He had to go out and lose something he worked his entire career for because he couldn't control his drug problem. That's what is scary. Of course, they both need rehab.

Sabu finally, improbably was gaining stardom...but he blew it. He's confirmed every bad thought about wrestlers like him, these independent guys that we were always told couldn't conform to a company locker room.

Often we wonder why some guys that seem less talented are pushed over guys we like. Why is a guy like HHH a 10 time champion but a Eddy Guerrero had to fight for years to get a shot at the belt. It's about being dependable, about not being a threat to embarass the company. Hulk Hogan never got arrested y'know. Wrestling is just like any other job, sometimes it's less about how good you are, than about how you act and behave. It's better to be competent and dependable than brilliant and erratic. Van Dam might win the ECW title again, but the WWE will never have faith in him to be a main event player. He embarassed the company and himself. Remember, the initial knock on Van Dam years ago was that his attitude rubbed the WWF people the wrong way. Legend is that Vince McMahon groomed Steve Bradley just because he resembled Van Dam. Rob has whined and bitched for years about WWE Creative and now he's confirmed all their worst fears about him. We wonder why Van Dam was 'held back' during the invasion. It's probably because they were afraid this would happen.

Now, a logical argument IS that JBL was arrested in Germany and got a world title out of it. That was due to a dumb move while in character, of course, but I can see people arguing the merits of punishment between these cases.

In this thread, I said I didn't think they would take the belts off him (especially not in Philly.) I was really naive; I wish they would have let the storylines play out and had him drop them as scheduled. But, despite what we think, I think they are protective of the belts. I can't recall a world champion ever being arrested (at least not in WCW or WWF.)

It's all very sad.
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#66 Posted on 5.7.06 0942.47
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Enjoy this pic! :

http://img108.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=96584_Priceless_9lo.jpg

: ))

Don't worry, they won't be fired! There are jokes all the time on WWE and ECW programming about RVD being a Stoner, yet when he finally proves it, he's out? No chance. He'll get a fine and suspension and a lesser push, but he won't be gone.

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#67 Posted on 5.7.06 1533.07
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While we're making jokes about it now...

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#68 Posted on 5.7.06 1615.38
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According to Dave Scherer's hotline, the plan is for RVD to continue his big push when he comes back. Apparantly, he and Sabu handled this whole thing very well backstage. Also reported that Vince really likes Sabu, so expect his push to also continue.

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#69 Posted on 5.7.06 1736.57
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    Originally posted by flairforthegold13
    Of course, they both need rehab.


Well, by that criteria I'd guess at least half the roster needs rehab. Which is to say that I don't think WWE's disciplinary actions should imply that Chris Masters, Joey Mercury, and Kurt Angle were the only wrestlers left in the company with some level of drug use.
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#70 Posted on 5.7.06 1744.06
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    Originally posted by OMEGA
    According to Dave Scherer's hotline, the plan is for RVD to continue his big push when he comes back. Apparantly, he and Sabu handled this whole thing very well backstage. Also reported that Vince really likes Sabu, so expect his push to also continue.

    (edited by OMEGA on 5.7.06 1715)


Awesome news.
Forget the "blah blah bleh ITS THE LAW" talk.

Encouraging people to better themselves is more important.

Also, RVD and Sabu are hot sellers right now- so, nope- nobody in WWE of all places is gonna get rid of them (somebody mentioned Iron Shiek getting canned 1987... Iron Shiek in 1987 isnt the same as Sabu or RVD during the rebirth of ECW, totally diffrent situation; and 2 decades later too)

EDIT: I have to admit I initially felt mad at RVD and Sabu, because they finally got a big break and they threw it away- but meh, Im a forgiving guy;

so... I hope to see RVD back soon, because as always- Im one of his biggest fans and Sabu is cool too.



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#71 Posted on 5.7.06 1820.22
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From the looks of things, WWE is punishing RVD more than the police are.
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#72 Posted on 5.7.06 1922.25
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    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
    Well, by that criteria I'd guess at least half the roster needs rehab. Which is to say that I don't think WWE's disciplinary actions should imply that Chris Masters, Joey Mercury, and Kurt Angle were the only wrestlers left in the company with some level of drug use.


Uh, did I miss when Angle was suspended for drug issues? Masters and Mercury I heard about, but Angle was, from what I'd gathered, just taking time off. Which, to be fair, he did plenty of times before the wellness policy was implemented. I'm not naive enough to presume he wasn't probably swallowing handfuls of painkillers in order to be able to perform, but the link between his most recent disappearance relative to that of Mercury and Masters certainly seems less damning in Angle's case.
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#73 Posted on 5.7.06 2024.29
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    Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad
      Originally posted by JustinShapiro
      Well, by that criteria I'd guess at least half the roster needs rehab. Which is to say that I don't think WWE's disciplinary actions should imply that Chris Masters, Joey Mercury, and Kurt Angle were the only wrestlers left in the company with some level of drug use.


    Uh, did I miss when Angle was suspended for drug issues? Masters and Mercury I heard about, but Angle was, from what I'd gathered, just taking time off. Which, to be fair, he did plenty of times before the wellness policy was implemented. I'm not naive enough to presume he wasn't probably swallowing handfuls of painkillers in order to be able to perform, but the link between his most recent disappearance relative to that of Mercury and Masters certainly seems less damning in Angle's case.


You're right. I meant put an adjective before Kurt's name that would insinuate that that was speculation and not cut & dry. And forgot. I apologize.

Justin Shapiro, irresponsible
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#74 Posted on 5.7.06 2100.02
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    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
      Originally posted by flairforthegold13
      Of course, they both need rehab.


    Well, by that criteria I'd guess at least half the roster needs rehab. Which is to say that I don't think WWE's disciplinary actions should imply that Chris Masters, Joey Mercury, and Kurt Angle were the only wrestlers left in the company with some level of drug use.

Not to mention (supposedly) the Vin-man...
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#75 Posted on 5.7.06 2305.51
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not to go against everyone here, but i haven't found any news about RVD and Sabu on ANY news sites. cnn, fox, yahoo, and google news [which searches all news sites]. only wrestling sites have picked up on this. and i don't see Paul turning on RVD that fast and in that way.

did we all get suckered in?

if it is real, they should of stripped the belt from RVD instead of letting a X-WWE guy take it. and if it was real, well, it's been a fun 4 weeks...
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#76 Posted on 5.7.06 2339.11
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    Originally posted by heavyness
    not to go against everyone here, but i haven't found any news about RVD and Sabu on ANY news sites. cnn, fox, yahoo, and google news [which searches all news sites].


http://www.battlecreekenquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060705/NEWS01/60705005
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1110AP_Wrestlers_Drugs.html
http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?StoryID=20060705-034246-4331r
here's like, the actual story - not AP
http://www.herald-dispatch.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060704/SPORTS/607040330/1002

Oh, it happened.
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#77 Posted on 6.7.06 0017.23
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    Originally posted by The Vile1
      Originally posted by oldschoolhero
      For the love of GOD, the guy got BUSTED for carrying an ILLEGAL SUBSTANCE. Try doing that at your incredibly public job and see what happens.

      Take off the rose-coloured glasses, guys.


    Maybe WWE should start discouraging their workers from using illegal substances. That is instead of talking out of both sides of their mouth. Maybe not giving mediocre workers the best pushes because they have to be over a certain height and weight.
So if Vince didn't push big guys, RVD wouldn't have been caught with pot?

    Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad
    Uh, did I miss when Angle was suspended for drug issues? Masters and Mercury I heard about, but Angle was, from what I'd gathered, just taking time off.

PWInsider said today that Angle was actually suspended and wasn't just taking time off. They didn't go into the reason why.
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#78 Posted on 6.7.06 0205.35
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This is possibly not related to the reason behind Angle's suspension, but do you all recall when WWE posted a video on its website of the backstage meeting in which Vince announced the start of the Wellness Policy? He opened the floor up to questions, and I believe Kurt Angle was the first (and possibly only) one asking questions. I remember based on his first question, my reaction was... "Hmmm. Looks like Angle thinks he needs to be careful with whatever he's doing right now and knows he shouldn't be." In hindsight, it's interesting, as I was waiting for him to be one of the first offenders.

Either way, any suspension related to the Wellness Policy (whether or not Angle's suspension relates to it) is a good thing. If people are getting caught, then people are presumably getting treatment and the proper medical care for their circumstances. Looking at Eddie Guerrero's death, it's too bad his health issues weren't caught early enough. If a suspension or firing helps raise awareness of issues or health concerns that would have otherwise not been caught, then good.

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#79 Posted on 6.7.06 0551.24
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Good, to a certain extent. I can't see a firing being good for WWE, especially if it is one of the main stars of their new ECW brand.
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#80 Posted on 6.7.06 0744.37
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    Originally posted by ekedolphin
    And now, ECW.com is announcing that RVD has been suspended for 30 days, though they announced it through a kayfabe article in which Paul Heyman was the one doing the suspending.


They are indeed. However, they're also saying this:

    Originally posted by wwe.com
    World Wrestling Entertainment earlier this week announced it was investigating five violations, including drug possession, levied against Rob Van Dam and Sabu by the Ohio State Highway Patrol. WWE announced today that based on information gathered over the past few days, Van Dam has been suspended without pay for 30 days and Sabu has been fined $1000. These actions are consistent with the Wellness Policy at WWE.


Full article.
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