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#21 Posted on 3.7.06 1707.42
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    Originally posted by The Vile1
      Like a wellness policy in the WWE of all places isn't a complete and total farce already.



Tell that to Chris Masters.

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#22 Posted on 3.7.06 1712.06
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    Originally posted by kingleo
    Tell that to Chris Masters.


Chris Masters who was only brought in and got the significant push he recieved because he did steroids. In that sense, I don't exactly see the WWE discouraging drug use or steroid abuse.
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#23 Posted on 3.7.06 1716.45
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. . . And who hasn't been seen on WWE TV for quite some time, reportedly because he tested positive for steroids.
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#24 Posted on 3.7.06 1719.05
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I'm not sure how reliable this site is, but according to www.norml.org/pdf_files/s...alties.pdf


    Possession of less than 100 grams of marijuana is a citable offense
    only, with a fine of $100. Possession of 100 grams or more is
    punishable by a fine of up to $250. For possession of 200 grams or
    more, the penalty increases to a possible sentence of 6 months - one
    year in jail. Possession of 1,000 grams or more is punishable by 1 - 5
    years in prison. Any possession of less than 5,000 grams does not
    carry the presumption of prison, which leaves available the
    possibility of probation. Possession of 5,000 grams of marijuana or
    more is punishable by 1 - 5 years in prison. For any amount or 20,000
    grams or more the penalty increases to a mandatory minimum sentence of
    eight years in prison.

    ...

    Possession of paraphernalia is punishable by up to 30 days in jail and
    sale of paraphernalia is punishable by up to 90 days in jail. For all
    drug convictions, including minor misdemeanors, the offender's
    driver's license is also suspended for a period of 6 months - 5 years.
    Professional licenses are also suspended.
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#25 Posted on 3.7.06 1742.40
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    Originally posted by RYDER FAKIN
    Probably because they were stoned

    FLEA

    bummer...




    (edited by RYDER FAKIN on 3.7.06 1727)


I would be inclined to agree but this is Southern Ohio/North Eastern Kentucky/Eastern West Virginia we are talking about. If they had been smoking pot then the Ohio State Patrol would have "them thar long haired hippy dope smokers" in jail.

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#26 Posted on 3.7.06 1816.58
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Thats right, ohio has the best drug laws for possession. But they treat bowls more harshly
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#27 Posted on 3.7.06 1838.34
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That PDF isn't accessible but this link is and it's nearly the same thing you've pointed out but easy read chart form which ironic that I like it. Wait I found the PDF...it's a site that supports the usage...umm. I'm going to leave this one up to the mods on this one if it stays or goes because it seems at least like the correct information for those types of "crimes".


Site:
http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=4557&wtm_view=penalties

PDF
http://www.norml.org/pdf_files/state_penalties/NORML_OH_State_Penalties.pdf
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#28 Posted on 3.7.06 1841.14
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    Originally posted by Ffej
    I love that this happened 10 minutes from my house. I am just trying to figure out why RVD and Sabu were heading to Portsmouth when Raw/Smackdown/ECW is in Philadelphia. If they were driving to Philly they were heading in the opposite direction. If they were flying, why not fly out of Charleston or even Huntington? In the direction they were heading they were going to either Cincinnati or Columbus. Both are about a 3 hour drive from Huntington, maybe even longer on a road like US 52 that is two lanes and 35 MPH in places


We've been wondering the same thing. I live in Charleston--in fact, the airport is just a five minute drive from my house. And it takes me roughly 45 minutes to drive from where I live to the arena in Huntington.

To steal a line from "O Brother, Where Art Thou?", "It just don't make no sense!"

Sure as hell put a damper on what was a fun show for me, anyway.

Welcome to WWE Human Resources. We don't care if you f**k another woman's husband or another man's wife, just don't be smoking a joint while you do it!!

Sorry, just getting the smartass out of my system.
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#29 Posted on 3.7.06 1842.27
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Y'know, this kinda shows how the WWE has fallen off the mainstream radar.

In yesteryear, had the company's WORLD CHAMPION been arrested for drug possession, it would've been splashed all over all the news outlets. All kinds of social activists would be screaming to the high heavens about wrestling being marketed to children and corrupting the impressionable youth of this country.

Now? Not much of a peep. It's being reported, but it's more of an afterthought.

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#30 Posted on 3.7.06 1848.18
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Wonder if "professional license" would include a wrestling license? Actually, do you have to have one of those in Ohio?

Don't flame me, I'm asking this because I honestly don't know.

The loss of the driver's license thing would be tricky. Guess it means RVD gets a designated driver now.
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#31 Posted on 3.7.06 1925.31
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    Originally posted by Divakind
    Welcome to WWE Human Resources. We don't care if you f**k another woman's husband or another man's wife, just don't be smoking a joint while you do it!!


I suspect that it's more along the lines of "we don't care if you want to smoke a splif from time to time, Mr. Van Dam, just don't, y'know, get caught by the cops. And CERTAINLY don't get caught smoking WHILE DRIVING!"

Look, I don't care who smokes what or why. I do care if they were smoking while driving. People who drink and drive disgust the hell out of me and I've no respect for them; the same goes in this instance.

If it turns out that they were indeed smoking while driving, I hope they both do some significant time in jail.

If it turns out that they just had some pot for later, I hope everybody has a good laugh on tv and that's the last we hear of it.

I loves me my booze and I loves me my ganja, but I'm not stupid enough to love them while I'm driving.
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#32 Posted on 3.7.06 2015.19
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    Originally posted by Sobriquet
      Originally posted by Divakind
      Welcome to WWE Human Resources. We don't care if you f**k another woman's husband or another man's wife, just don't be smoking a joint while you do it!!


    I suspect that it's more along the lines of "we don't care if you want to smoke a splif from time to time, Mr. Van Dam, just don't, y'know, get caught by the cops. And CERTAINLY don't get caught smoking WHILE DRIVING!"

    Look, I don't care who smokes what or why. I do care if they were smoking while driving. People who drink and drive disgust the hell out of me and I've no respect for them; the same goes in this instance.


I couldn't agree more. Rob and Sabu were both aware that, y'know, marijuana possession is illegal in the United States, right? So it's damn irresponsible to speed while in possession of marijuana-- you're gonna get pulled over, and you're gonna get caught.

If RVD and Sabu get suspended over it, you can stick a fork in ECW, it's done. Of course it certainly doesn't help that WWE has done nothing to really establish the other "ECW guys" (and by that I mean people most commonly associated with ECW, not just guys on the ECW brand). The Sandman's probably the next-best-established after those two, and he's just been beating up random people.
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#33 Posted on 3.7.06 2107.50
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    Originally posted by rv581
    Y'know, this kinda shows how the WWE has fallen off the mainstream radar.

    In yesteryear, had the company's WORLD CHAMPION been arrested for drug possession, it would've been splashed all over all the news outlets. All kinds of social activists would be screaming to the high heavens about wrestling being marketed to children and corrupting the impressionable youth of this country.

    Now? Not much of a peep. It's being reported, but it's more of an afterthought.





In boxing parlance ECW is like the IBF or WBO.. just another alphabet title league. The dilution of talent and titles means its impact is lessened
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#34 Posted on 3.7.06 2345.17
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I just got back from the RAW/SD! Supershow and this news apparently broke after I was offline for the day. Had no idea, or I would've have been as surprised by Edge's win.

I don't think much of the crowd knew about it, no one around me seemed to have any idea yet. After the show, RVD posed with the ECW belt and played to the crowd for a few min, then left.

I always wondered about celebrities that are blatantly obvious about their pot use, why the cops never targetted them. I remember seeing 311's tour video 10 years ago and wondering why the authorities didn't use that as evidence and charge them with something.
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#35 Posted on 4.7.06 0020.44
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    Originally posted by Spiraling_Shape
    I always wondered about celebrities that are blatantly obvious about their pot use, why the cops never targetted them. I remember seeing 311's tour video 10 years ago and wondering why the authorities didn't use that as evidence and charge them with something.


It has to do with celebrity, money, and care combined with amount police want to give for time and effort.

There have been tons of shows on MTv which have shown underrage teenagers drinking alcohol and I have never heard of any reprecussions inflicted on those people from that footage being shown, either by law enforcement OR the school those teens went to. MTv has money and their "edgy" reputation, and the teens, typically, have money as well to get out of it.

If it's not going to garner any MAJOR attention -- there's no point in wasting the time and paperwork to file some minor drug (as in common nowadays, unfortunately) charges on a celebrity who has the money to bail themself out almost as soon as they are brought in and the clout to carry on normally with a blemish on their public record.

I dunno, I am not a fan of drugs big or small -- and I don't get why people go to them. The only thing that upsets me about this whole story is that A) it's ending RVD's title reign and B) it very well may end Sabu's WWE tenure, which sucks because I'd like to see him recoup some money; especially since his health has been very bad over the last year and a half.



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#36 Posted on 4.7.06 0418.03
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I am REALLY glad RVD had already won the WWE title when all of this happened, because otherwise he would have had NO CHANCE IN HELL to ever become the champ after that incident!

Man, what a bad timing! I canīt believe this! Itīs so sad! And stupid! Poor RVD! Poor Sabu! But: HOW COULD THEY BE THAT CARELESS? UNREAL!

I just hope they donīt get fired! I know they should be, but WWE really isnīt worth one look (or dollar/euro) without Jericho, Benoit AND RVD! :/

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#37 Posted on 4.7.06 0423.41
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I'm going to ignore Sabu and just talk about RVD for a minute. I'm going to stray far off topic and I'm gonna get heat for this, but pot really shouldn't be considered a violation of the "wellness" policy. Before anyone makes assumptions, I am not a frequent marijuana user. However, I have no problem with people that do use. I'm not a doctor, but I am well educated in the effects of drug use. There's a big difference between pot and say, crack, cocaine, steroids, etc. Pot has no long term effect on users that tobacco doesn't. Tobacco is legal. Several WWE performers use tobacco, smoking cigarettes, chew, etc.

Read "Foley Is Good", Mick Foley claims that while he himself sees does not use marijuana, he sees no harm in it. Quote pg 300-301: "Marijuana...well, that's a different story. I know some of the guys in wrestling smoke a little pot, and as soon as I see evidence that its effects go beyond making people happy and mellow, I'll let you know. Professional wrestling is a high-stress job that causes its participants to be on the road a great percentage of the year. Without a release mechanism, some would find it unbearable. Maybe my thinking is a little too liberal here, but in my book (and this is my book) there are bigger problems in today's world than a grown man smoking a joint in a hotel room after being thrown around a ring and driving a couple hundred miles." I can't agree more.

Quoting "If it turns out that they were indeed smoking while driving, I hope they both do some significant time in jail." I have lost people close to me due to alcohol related incidents, however I'm sorry but pot has about the same effect on your driving ability as driving when you are tired, which last time i checked was legal.

Pot has little to no effect on your driving capacity. Not like alcohol for example, which WWE has endorsed numerous times, namely Steve Austin, who was shown actually driving with an open container on a PPV. (No Mercy 1999 vs Rikishi.)

I'm sorry I'm getting into personal beliefs here, but it's already common knowledge that RVD's a pothead. RVD 4:20 was part of his appeal in the old ECW. A vast majority of Americans use marijuana. It's a lot like prohibition in the early 1900's. If enough people do not obey the law, it's eventually seen as a a joke and if enough people disobey the rule, it's thrown out.

Now supposedly RVD did have prescription drugs with him as well. If they're prescribed to him, then that's fair game and he shouldn't be punished. He should be fairly punished for any other serious drugs in his possession. I'm sorry but I don't believe that a little weed should result in suspending/firing/punishing a wrestler.
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#38 Posted on 4.7.06 0435.22
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He got arrested in very public fashion. I don't care who you are or what you're smoking, they have every right to punish the shit out of him.
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#39 Posted on 4.7.06 0535.39
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    Originally posted by The Chief
    pot really shouldn't be considered a violation of the "wellness" policy.


Maybe it shoudn't be but it is, and they chose to violate it.


    Pot has no long term effect on users that tobacco doesn't. Tobacco is legal.


Pot, however, is illegal.


    pot has about the same effect on your driving ability as driving when you are tired, which last time i checked was legal.


...and is nearly as stupid as what RVD and Sabu did here.


    A vast majority of Americans use marijuana.


I'm going to need a source before I believe that.


    It's a lot like prohibition in the early 1900's. If enough people do not obey the law, it's eventually seen as a a joke and if enough people disobey the rule, it's thrown out.


I've seen nothing to indicate to me that marijuana laws are treated as a joke. RVD and Sabu being arrested would seem to detract from your claim.


    I'm sorry but I don't believe that a little weed should result in suspending/firing/punishing a wrestler.


I guess RVD should go work for *your* wrestling promotion!
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#40 Posted on 4.7.06 0634.29
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Gonna roll out my ex-cop persona for a sec and comment.

    Originally posted by The Chief
    Pot has no long term effect on users that tobacco doesn't.


Most health agencies disagree. Not only is MJ about 50-70% more carcinogenic than ciggies, the THC reduces your immune system, and the ability to keep a job (watch RVD, for example). . A study among postal workers found that employees who tested positive for marijuana on a pre-employment urine drug test had 55 percent more industrial accidents, 85 percent more injuries, and a 75-percent increase in absenteeism compared with those who tested negative for marijuana use. (Pope HG, Gruber AJ, Hudson JI, et al. Neuropsychological performance in long-term cannabis users. Arch Gen Psychiatry 58(10):909–915, 2001.)



    Originally posted by The Chief

    I'm sorry but pot has about the same effect on your driving ability as driving when you are tired, which last time i checked was legal.

    Pot has little to no effect on your driving capacity.


Well, I totally disagree with you. I pulled over a lot of people in my time on the Job and drunks and Stoned folks drove just similarly crappy. Both are an endangerment to themselve and the people around them.


    Originally posted by The Chief

    A vast majority of Americans use marijuana.


Frankly, this is plainly false. Most National polls and estimates place this figure at about 5-6%. Here are some links
http://www.infomart-usa.com/newsletter/august2005/article2.htm
http://www.nida.nih.gov/Infofacts/marijuana.html
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