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John Orquiola
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#1 Posted on 26.6.06 1047.30
Reposted on: 26.6.13 1047.46
No one wants to talk about Vengeance ('cept me)? Anyone else see it?

Q&D results:

Orton pinned Angle
Umaga beat Eugene, who had Doink, Hacksaw and Kamala with him
Ric Flair beat Mick Foley in two straight falls (pinfall, then DQ)
Johnny Nitro beat Shelton Benjamin and Carlito for the Intercontinental Title
Rob Van Dam pinned Edge to retain the WWE Title
Kane 1997 pinned Kane 2006
John Cena made Sabu tap out to the STFU in an Extreme Lumberjack match
D-Generation X beat The Spirit Squad

What stood out for me:

I liked Orton outsmarting/outcheating Angle and sending him into an exposed turnbuckle prior to hitting the RKO for the win.

Kamala vs. Umaga soon (tonight?) Battle of the jungle stereotypes.

The Foley match was disappointing. I know he promised to stink up the joint but he didn't do it in a funny way. Far too short and really just a time filler for the post-match beatdown and bloodbath on Flair. At least the angle will continue. I gotta feel for Flair's daughter at ringside. Every time her dad wrestles in Charlotte she shows up at ringside and brings some friends and they have to sit there in horror as her father is savagely blooded and beaten. She should maybe stop coming to see her dad work.

The IC title match was pretty fantastic. Carlito and Nitro busted their asses and showed far more ability than they have previously. Shelton provided the foundation for Carlito's high flying and the three of them put on an X-Division style match that was a breath of fresh air to the usual WWE style. They had a great triple suplex spot in the corner. Cool spots not usually seen in WWE. A lot of fun with an interesting surprise (to me) ending that had Nitro walking out with the gold.

The Edge vs. RVD match was terrific. Edge was on his game with the early psychology that he had RVD scouted but couldn't quite counter or deflect all of his offense. RVD could have torn his knee out when he missed the legdrop off the apron and collided with the barricade. Edge took it even further and powerbombed RVD on the barricade. I can't believe his lower back could be fine after that. I never expected RVD to beat Edge here, so that was another surprise. Edge missed a spear and ran head first into a chair Lita had planted in the corner. Five Star finished Edge off. Terrific match between these two and a great one for being the first (and thus far only) WWE Title match in over 14 months not involving John Cena in any way.

Kane vs. Kane was an abortion. I wanted to set myself on fire than continue watching it.

John Cena lead the usual cast of Heat as lumberjacks against Sabu and the ECW lumberjacks. They had a good showing with cool chair spots, especially Sabu throwing a chair at Cena's face and it ended up wrapped around his neck. Cena FUing Sabu through a table was sick. Everything was cool except for Cena making Sabu tap out and how handily the Heat guys took out the top Extremists of ECW. All I could think of in regards to the lumberjacks was who would I rather hang with? The porn star, the cowboy, the redneck, the fat loverboy in pajamas, the foot fetish pervert, and whatever the hell Rob Conway is or the drunk, fun-loving sleazebags of ECW? It's really a no-contest. I'd rather hang with the bingo hall crowd. This is why so many of us desperately want ECW to succeed.

DX match was exactly what was expected. DX completely controlled the first 8 minutes, with the cheerleaders acting more ineffectual than usual and feeding themselves to DX. Johnny was busted hardway and bled badly but showed some guts in getting right back in there. HBK played Ricky Morton for the second half of the match. Then Triple H got the hot tag and it was superkicks and Pedigrees for everyone until DX won. It was a crowdpleaser but I was pretty underwhelmed. I don't miss being 22 and loving DX the first time around. Seeing them 9 years later go through the old motions didn't do much for me. But if you love Triple H's bare ass and cheerleader's faces shoved all the way up it, that was the finish for you.

I liked four of the matches (two I liked a lot), am ambivalent about DX, and thought the other three were pieces of shit.

(edited by John Orquiola on 26.6.06 0850)
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#2 Posted on 26.6.06 1110.13
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Was at the show. Pretty good show. Not bad at all, but dissapointing considering the line-up.

Dark match was Val Venis d. Rob Conway. People were into Val and were into booing Conway, so yay for that. Short little match that was good while it lasted.

Randy Orton d. Kurt Angle. Dissapointing. It got good towards the end, but the middle portion cooled off the crowd (although Angle's 10 germans woke them up a bit).

Umaga d. Eugene (w/ Kamala, Doink, & Duggan). Was what it was. People loved Armando. They seemed to be building towards UMAGA vs. KAMALA~!

Ric Flair d. Mick Foley. They only gave them about 6 minutes and it was dissapointing. Seemed to just be an angle to build to their REAL match later, possibly at SummerSlam.

Johnny Nitro d. Carlito and Shelton Benjamin. These three men worked their asses off here. And in a match that I expected to have a dead crowd ended up getting huge applauses from the audience. Carlito pulled out all sorts of whacky flip-a-dos here, and for the 97% of the people in the crowd who have never seen the x-divisions, this probably seemed ground-breaking.

Rob Van Dam d. Edge. Definite match of the night. Edge cut a good heel promo on NC beforehand, and the crowd was in to RVD. The crowd REALLY cooled off in the middle, but got back in to cheering on Van Dam by the end. I was very suprised by Van Dam winning. Edge bled hardway from a van-daminator with the spinner belt.

Fake Kane d. Kane. The crowd could not have cared less. The fact that this storyline was originally supposed to last until WrestleMania is mind-boggling.

John Cena d. Sabu. Very fun match. The crowd, who wasn't familiar with Sabu, were blown away by some of his spots. However, a total pro-Cena crowd here, with only a few people booing him.

RVD challenged Cena to a match tonight on RAW. So the reign is coming to an end, just one day later than I thought.

D-Genearation X d. Spirit Squad. Fun match. The crowd was TOTALLY into DX. However, the crowd seemed to die a few minutes in. That's the problem with main-eventing a PPV with a match they've already done on RAW about a billion times before. Still a fun little match.

Afterwards, DX tried to get some women to flash them. There were THOUSANDS of little kids here, and I'm sure their parents were thrilled with this. Not sure if anyone actually flashed, because we decided to get out of there before traffic built up, but I did hear a very loud roar as we were leaving the building.

Overall, a good little PPV, but definitley dissapointing. And while I'm a proponent for the WWE Title going on last, I must say that every single person in line was talking about DX and NOBODY was talking about RVD v. Edge. So I can't say it was the wrong move.

The crowd was not nearly as good as a traditional North Carolina match. They loved Cena, and they were into DX and RVD. But most everyone else had to really work for any sort of reaction.

(edited by OMEGA on 26.6.06 1230)
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#3 Posted on 26.6.06 1223.00
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Wow! I was right when I predicted RVD would keep his belt(s)!

And man - Was that D-X match awful! I was SO bored watching that crap! Horrible! And THAT was their main event, while THE CHAMP Rob Van Dam had to wrestle (once again) MIDCARD!?!

Other than that: Carlito was on fire tonight! NICE little match! Nitro winning was ok as well, because Carlito doesn' t really need that IC strap in my opinion!

Flair vs. Foley NOW has an ok build up! Good move!
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#4 Posted on 26.6.06 1242.24
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I missed Angle/Orton and Umaga/Eugene because the bar had troubles with its PPV provider, but it doesn't sound like I missed much.

So they put the world title match on at 9:15? Says much. And yay to RVD and Edge for putting on the best match of the night anyway. The triple-threat was pretty hot too, but there were a few of those overplanned spots that always turn me off the X-Division, which kind of brought it down for me.

Cena v. Sabu was okay, although I thought the lumberjack stip spoiled it. I'd rather have seen 'em brawl around the arena a little. Fake Kane v. Kane was a little disappointing. It looks like Fake Kane really isn't that good, and Kane's never been a guy who can pull a good match out of a substandard opponent.

Okay, the Spirit Squad have once more been made to look useless. I guess DX can move on to feuding with ... um ... someone. I'm calling it now -- DX vs. Vince and Shane (or possibly Coachman) at Summerslam.

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#5 Posted on 26.6.06 1323.26
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I think it's officially safe to proclaim Johnny Nitro the most successful Tough Enough winner in history. And where the Hell has the Carlito we saw last night been hiding for the past eighteen months?!
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#6 Posted on 26.6.06 1329.05
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RVDs match was anti climatic given where it was on the card. There is nothing worse than a telegraphed title match, it sucks all the drama out of it.
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#7 Posted on 26.6.06 1353.53
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    Originally posted by oldschoolhero
    I think it's officially safe to proclaim Johnny Nitro the most successful Tough Enough winner in history.
But Miss Jackie is tearing it up in TNA!

It's not surprising that Nitro has had the most success of all the Tough Enough winners -- I remember that he was the only contestant in the history of the show with whom there was absolutely no doubt whatsoever he was going to win. They couldn't even find a way to make his character interesting, or even to make him much of a character at all. There was no controversy, no questions -- every single comment you saw anyone make about him, whether fellow contestant or trainer, was something to the effect of "Wow, he's really good," or "I can't believe what a natural he is."

(edited by Destrucity on 26.6.06 1154)
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#8 Posted on 26.6.06 1551.34
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    Originally posted by Shem the Penman
    I missed Angle/Orton and Umaga/Eugene because the bar had troubles with its PPV provider, but it doesn't sound like I missed much.


That's exactly what I missed...and here I figured the bar I watch WWE PPVs at was working me when they said it was "a nationwide problem."
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#9 Posted on 26.6.06 1936.27
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    Originally posted by Destrucity
      Originally posted by oldschoolhero
      I think it's officially safe to proclaim Johnny Nitro the most successful Tough Enough winner in history.
    But Miss Jackie is tearing it up in TNA!

    It's not surprising that Nitro has had the most success of all the Tough Enough winners -- I remember that he was the only contestant in the history of the show with whom there was absolutely no doubt whatsoever he was going to win. They couldn't even find a way to make his character interesting, or even to make him much of a character at all. There was no controversy, no questions -- every single comment you saw anyone make about him, whether fellow contestant or trainer, was something to the effect of "Wow, he's really good," or "I can't believe what a natural he is."

    (edited by Destrucity on 26.6.06 1154)


Yea, and sure sounds like he and Melina are REALLY being grated for Melina's reportedly crappy backstage attitude!
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