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Eddie Famous
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#1 Posted on 12.5.02 0357.57
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All-time team:

1B- Rusty Staub
2B- Ron Hunt
SS- Tim Foli
3B- Larry Parrish
C- Gary Carter
of- Andre Dawson
of- Tim Raines
of- Vladimir Guerrero
SP- Steve Rogers
RP- Jeff Reardon

Any additions/objections?
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#2 Posted on 12.5.02 0834.52
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I agree with all of your picks except for Ron Hunt, whom I've never even heard of. He must've played for 'em before the early 80's, when I first started to pay any attention to any players who weren't current or former Reds.

Just like any All Star Team has backups, I suggest:

OF Moises Alou
OF Larry Walker
SP Dennis Martinez
INF Mike Mordecai (okay, I'm kidding about that one)

Of my serious suggestions, two gained their greatest fame and success after leaving Montreal but were still damn good there (Alou and Walker). The other one was just as good in Montreal as he was for other teams before and after his time as an Expo. Still, all three were good enough while Expos to make the team, in my opinion.
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#3 Posted on 12.5.02 0849.56
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Agreed with the additions of Walker and Martinez....Alou the outfielder is overrated. Alou the coach should be mentione don this all time great team though =)
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#4 Posted on 12.5.02 1024.55
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my vote for 3rd base would go to tim wallach.
i have no idea what steve rodgers and dennis martinez numbers were on les expos, but even though it was for only for 4 years, i think pedro deserves some consideration as well.
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#5 Posted on 12.5.02 1042.36
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C - Gary Carter
1B - Andres Galarraga
2B - Rusty Staub
3B - Tim Wallach
SS - No clue
OF - Tim Raines
OF - Larry Walker
OF - Vladmir Guerrero
OF - (just because he deserves it) Andre Dawson
SP - Pedro Martinez (I know Steve Rogers lasted longer...but he's no Pedro)
RP - John Wetteland
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#6 Posted on 12.5.02 1050.18
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i think cordero looks like the best option for shortstop, which obviously isn't saying much.
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#7 Posted on 12.5.02 1134.03
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Ooh, I'd put Grudzielanek ahead of Cordero. But I can't seriously imagine Grudz is the BEST they ever had...

Harry Caray: "Mark Grus, Gres, Grud...I'll call him Mark."
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#8 Posted on 12.5.02 1221.29
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Check out Jayson Stark`s latest ESPN.com column: http://espn.go.com/mlb/columns/stark_jayson/1381026.html

He discussed the greatest Expo of them all: Youppi!
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#9 Posted on 12.5.02 1446.41
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If you're talking about great players who were at one time Expos, don't forget the Unit, even though he was only mediocre there.

Ron Hunt is probably best remembered for holding (still?) the record for number of times HBP. I want to say 52 times in one season, but I could be wrong.
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#10 Posted on 12.5.02 1813.06
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I read 50 was the record, set of course by Hunt.

Either way...OW!
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#11 Posted on 12.5.02 1924.16
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Ron Hunt actually has his own web page at

ronhuntbaseball.com

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#12 Posted on 12.5.02 1928.17
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A couple others I thought of...

DeShields?
Bob Bailey
Ron LeFlore

I think Steve Rogers pretty much has to be the starter, given his career...
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#13 Posted on 12.5.02 2128.34
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I'd probably put Grudzielanek ahead of Cordero myself. As for Ron Hunt, I really haven't heard of him, so if anyone could fill me in on some of his career statistics, outside of HBP (50? Yeowtch.), I'd appreciate it - I was thinking Jose Vidro, but he probably hasn't been around long enough to merit consideration. DeShields is a good pick too, I'd probably rate him over Hunt simply because I kind of remember him when he played for the 'Spos. Also, are we talking while they were an Expo, or are we including after they left?


Off-topic, but going back to the Harry Caray comment, I once remember him calling the Mets' 1B Mark Grace (don't remember who the first baseman for the Mets was at the time, but it was the 9th and Harry didn't remember either, so I don't feel too bad).
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#14 Posted on 13.5.02 0019.20
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pedro did win a cy young and was an allstar twice in
only 4 years while rogers won zero cy youngs (although did lead the league in era once) and 5 allstars in 13 years.
if it's going to be based on cumulative stats, then i guess rogers is better. but IMO it should be based on how productive the player was in the period of time they played (within reason).
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#15 Posted on 13.5.02 0311.24
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My only real complaint with that list is the omission of Tim Wallach at 3B. He held a bunch of single-season team records until Vlad smashed them all, was a 3-time All-Star and 5-time Gold Glove.
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#16 Posted on 13.5.02 1433.34
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What?? No Coco Laboy? Shortstop really is a black hole for the Expos, no? Spike Owen? Bobby Wine? When Tim Foli really is the best you've had, that reeks.
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#17 Posted on 14.5.02 1319.44
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Argh! I can't believe I forgot Tim Wallach or Pedro. For some reason, I'd completely forgotten the latter's years in Montreal and "remembered" him going straight from the Dodgers to the BoSox.
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#18 Posted on 15.5.02 0330.53
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Otis Nixon still holds the record for most stolen bases in fewest at bats - and I still have the LA Times blurb covering it. Oh, and also the time he stole six bases against the Braves, that ruled. Man Otis Nixon is the greatest ever. Must have been all that COKE he was sniffing...

I sure dug Bryn Smith - or was it Zane Smith? NO NO it was Oil Can Boyd AHHH

I'm pretty much with Fame's list except of course it needs Wallach - and MAYBE Wetteland as the closer. Also, Dennis Martinez and Mark Gardner get special luv from me for Gardner's nine no-hit innings (he lost in the tenth) followed the next day by EL PERFECTO and boy were the Dodgers happy to be in town for THAT series. (Disclaimer: I may be totally misremembering this since I stopped watching baseball "for real" after the strike broke my heart - but I still proudly model my collection of "beanie" Expos caps when it isn't basketball season)
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#19 Posted on 16.5.02 0316.26
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Mm- I'll agree with Wallach. Was lost in the 70s when I came up with the list. How about Chris Speier at short? Though I still favor Foli....
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#20 Posted on 16.5.02 0719.11
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Even though he wasn't there that long, I'll throw out Al Oliver at 1B...Scoop DID win a batting title in MTL.
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