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Cerebus
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#1 Posted on 1.4.06 1317.03
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I notice that most of my posts in here have to do with the AWESOMENESS that has been DC COMICS for the past few years. I figure I'll do a MARVEL ONLY thread for once.

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Hulk "Their Machines and heroes won't save them."

Bug "From what?"

-PLANET HULK Part 2-

...can I just get an "Oh Shit!" from someone. Hulk's gonna kick some MAJOR ASS when he get's back to Earth.
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Obviously, I'm more into DC then I am MARVEL, but the slow build up MARVEL's done for CIVIL WAR has been rather nice as well. JMS, over in AMAZING SPIDER-MAN, has really got a feel for Tony Stark, and if he ever get's bored (or kicked off) Spidey, I'd like him to try a stab at IRON MAN. As long as he stays away from any 'magical' storylines, I think it could be the perfect book for him. Back to Spidey, Peter really isn't helping any talking to Congress. Nice to see the 'Parker Luck' still in effect. I was also told that half the people who picked up issue # , thought the 'MARVEL employee arguement' in the first few pages was stupid and pointless, but I have to disagree. I actually like the whole 'breaking of the fourth wall' thing. Remember poor Paul Jenkins in NEW AVENGERS? That was well done as well. The way it's happening here makes me think there's actually a point to it, and it's going to lead somewhere, like perhaps we, the readers, will get to vote on the outcome of the whole thing via #900 or E-Mail voting? We'll see I suppose.

NEW AVENGERS: ILLUMINATI SPECIAL hit with a bang. We find out the SUPER HERO REGISTRATION ACT wants to get the heroes to become government employees, basiclly. They'll work for SHEILD though, which I guess 'could' be bad in the long run. Still, think about the PAYCHECK, people. This actually sounds like a good thing to me. Out of the group, Ironman, Reed Richards, Namor, and Black Bolt are FOR the act; Tony's been 'outed' before so it shouldn't really matter to him, Reed's 'outed' so it shouldn't really matter to him, Namor who LIVES IN THE FUCKING OCEAN AND SHOULDN'T GIVE A FUCK what the AIR BREATHERS do as long as it's on land, and Black Bolt who lives on the FUCKING MOON so (OBVIOUSLY!) he could give two shits but is for it anyway I suppose. The dissenting vote is from Dr. Strange who the majority of the world knows NOTHING ABOUT WHO HE IS so he has the most to worry about. Seeing as this book is what puts The Hulk out in space and with the only person against this was the Hulks running buddy in the DEFENDERS, Namor, I think this will end up leading to something down the line. Weren't those two always wanting to kick the shit out of each other... that doesn't make much since.

ANNIHILATION wasn't sounding all that interesting to me untill it was revealed that Annihilus was gonna be kicking some ass in it. I've always liked the character and I felt he was sadly underused. When he was used, he was usually beaten in ridiculous ways; this was HORRIBLE to do to a character who supposedly defeated the ENTIRE Negative Zone. Keith Giffen's gonna have to watch out though, cause Jim Starlin is the guy that everyone is gonna compare this to, and Starlin is pretty hard to beat when it comes to Outer Space stories. This, in turn, caused me to get the DRAX THE DESTROYER mini series, which in turn, caused me to like Drax the character who I thought was the least interesting character from the Infinity Watch... well, except for where he decided to keep his Power Gem, that was kinda funny.

So you see, there is some good stuff coming from MARVEL.

...then again: Ultimate Deadpool sucks ass, the whole build up to 'Where's Xavier?' ends with him in Ireland getting a fucking beer, The new SENTRY mini has him facing The Void AGAIN?
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#2 Posted on 1.4.06 1530.52
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Actually, Namor was against the registration act. He told Stark to shove it, and if they tried to get Atlantis to pass a similar act, he would consider it an act of war. I wasn't sure about Black Bolt, as he can't speak, but I got the impression he wasn't big on it either. He just wordlessly gave Tony a piece of his mind and took off. Richards is the only one who stuck around afterwards, so I though he was the only one besides Stark who supported the act. The reason a lot of heroes would be against the act is because of how hightly they value their annonymity, as well as the fact that it's really just the Mutant Registration Act all over again because they'd have to register regardless of if they wanted to do any heroing. What the act says is, if you have powers you have to register them and go to work for S.H.I.E.L.D. If they can't get Starlin for Annihilation, then Giffen's the man for the job. He did most of the Thanos series from a few years ago, and he did a bang-up job on it.
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#3 Posted on 2.4.06 1320.56
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I can certainly relate to the Dc-centricism right now.

My Marvel reading is down to this:

Daredevil (now that Bru is writing it)
Cap
Young avengers

That's it, that's the list.
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#4 Posted on 2.4.06 1628.29
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Good set-up and I'm sold on the concept. I especially like how Iron Man suddenly becomes much more credible and important to the entire Marvel U. It works out perfectly for the character. After all, he funded the Avengers and while Capt. America has always been considered the group's leader, Iron Man's really been running things. He had some stints as Avengers chairman over the years, but he never really seemed to exercise his authority or take the leader role like Cap did. This story kinda' tells you why-- he was essentially the leader of Earth's secret superhero committee.

I wouldn't be surprised if a new Dr. Strange title comes out in the next 18 months. Same for Black Bolt.

One minor nitpick-- the illumnati members want to know what Black Bolt's thinking. Professor X is able to read his mind and share Black Bolt's thoughts...but once Prof X disappears, they have no idea how to communicate with Black Bolt. What? Doesn't anybody have a SHEET OF PAPER and a PENCIL they can give to the guy?! Funny, when you consider "genius inventors" Reed Richards and Iron Man are in the room.

Also thought it was interesting that Namor stood up for Hulk. They weren't exactly "buddies" in their Defenders days, as Namor seemed to despise the brute and they would often take to beating the snot out of each other.

I'm sure I wasn't the only person who thought that the Hulk set-up/trap seemed to borrow from "Ultimates 2". Let's trick him into getting onto a SHIELD ship, then we'll blow him up, errrr..send him into space.

Oh yeah...wasn't it Pip the Troll who had his Infinity Gem in a funny place?
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#5 Posted on 2.4.06 1730.49
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The strength of Amazing Spider-Man and the Illuminati special have basically hooked me into the Civil War story. I'm in it for the long-run.

But that said, I'm pretty much a Marvel zombie anyhow. The only DC stuff I read are Infinite Crisis, Y: The Last Man, 100 Bullets and Ex Machina.
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#6 Posted on 3.4.06 0046.53
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    Originally posted by estragand
    Oh yeah...wasn't it Pip the Troll who had his Infinity Gem in a funny place?


IIRC (and that might be a stretch), Pip had his gem in a *funny* place, while Drax simply ate his (where it would remain in his intestines since it was indigestible.) Does that sound right?
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#7 Posted on 3.4.06 0903.49
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    Originally posted by Cerebus
    NEW AVENGERS: ILLUMINATI SPECIAL hit with a bang. We find out the SUPER HERO REGISTRATION ACT wants to get the heroes to become government employees, basiclly. They'll work for SHEILD though, which I guess 'could' be bad in the long run.


I doubt they'd tie this in, but during the "Last Avengers Story" mini-series that Peter David did a few years ago, two characters (I forget which two...maybe Hank Pym and someone else?) briefly mention some sort of demoralizing event where heroes were commissioned by the government to gather most of the villains in the Marvel U. Then, once in custody, they were subsequently executed, resulting in many heroes retiring.

It's probably nothing, and there's only a slight possibility that it's a hint of things to come. I point it out mostly because that's the sort of direction I could easily see Marvel going with it.
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#8 Posted on 4.4.06 0345.43
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    Originally posted by odessasteps

    I can certainly relate to the Dc-centricism right now.

    My Marvel reading is down to this:

    Daredevil (now that Bru is writing it)
    Cap
    Young avengers

    That's it, that's the list.


I was mildly okay with Brubaker bringing back Bucky as the Winter Soldier just because it didn't (and still doesn't) really feel like Bucky. With the death of Foggy Nelson (in Daredevil) and Banshee (in X-Men Deadly Genesis) I feel that he (Brubaker) is really treating death haphazardously. Foggy Nelson has been in Daredevil from pretty much the beginning and his death is a prison shanking, and the funeral is more about Matt than it is Foggy. Which makes the whole ordeal feel really cheap, like he just killed a character with no real significance or long term history in the book. I understand that he needed something to make Matt "snap" but off-ing a long time character in a such a cavalier manner shows (to me) that he either doesn't understand the characters that he's writing (ala JMS with the whole Gwen Stacy/Osborn thing in AMS) or he thinks death in comics is insignificant.

On a sort of related note, if they *are* planning on bringing foggy back it's gonna be a stretch of writing. Bringing back characters from the dead like Bucky, Banshee, Colossus, Elektra, etc. in whatever capacity seems more plausible than somehow resurrecting Foggy just because the aforementioned are "heroes"/have powers. Foggy just has, well, his double chin.
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#9 Posted on 4.4.06 1228.35
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I would be shocked if Foggy was dead.

I keep hopeing he'll somehow be the "new" DD.
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#10 Posted on 4.4.06 1652.21
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    Originally posted by odessasteps

    I would be shocked if Foggy was dead.

    I keep hopeing he'll somehow be the "new" DD.


I doubt it. He looked pretty dead, and even Matt fully believed it. The only way out of this is if it's another daydreaming sequence, which is pretty bait+switch if you ask me.Your comment makes me think of Earth X #1/2 where Fury remarks: "Nodoby even guessed it was Matt. Everybody thought Foggy was Daredevil. What was his super power? To suck in his incredible gut?"

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#11 Posted on 6.4.06 1528.30
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Unless you've got money to burn, there's really nothing worth reading in 616 Marvel. I mean, I love Spider-Man, but I'm not going to pick up his four books plus New Avengers just to keep up every month.

Daredevil is a pretty good read right now, though I agree that it feels a little silly that most of the grieving for Foggy was done "off camera" for both the characters and the readers. We should have been there for the hospital ride and everything that came after. I can only hope that the reason we weren't is to leave an out for Foggy to come back. Anyway, Daredevil and Young Avengers seem to be the only 616 books that I would actually consider buying (for some reason I just don't like Runaways).

Ultimate Marvel, however is a completely different story. There isn't a book there that I would mind buying. The only problem I have with the Ultimate line is that the lengthy waits between issues in the Ultimates 2 series as well as the Ultimate Galactus storyline have left me very confused regarding the continuity timeline. But Ultimate Marvel gives me everything I want out of my comics - a coherent space to read stories about characters I identify with and love, all without having to feel like I've "Gotta catch 'em all!" just to keep pace.

As for my Marvel/DC preferences, I'm enjoying all the Crisis stuff because that's all DC has to offer me for the most part. It's a question of "What are they going to do to Batman/Superman/Wonderwoman/GreenLantern/etc this time?" Instead of, "How is Batman/etc going to overcome this problem?" With the exception of Wally West's Flash, none of DC's main tier of heroes change or grow (in my eyes only their villians do). There's a problem, they confront it, and they win. The only times they change seems to be in Elseworlds stories, which is why the new Crisis is so much fun - they're bringing an Elseworlds type story home to roost. If One Year Later actually makes something of these stagnant characters I might actually start buying DC books again.
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#12 Posted on 6.4.06 1759.06
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Jaguar, I'm surprised that you can't find anything you like in 616 Marvel. Young Avengers, Cable & Deadpool, Thunderbolts, and Captain America are all EXCELLENT right now, and the X-books are the best they've been in like 10 years. And that's just my pull list. Marvel's had their ups and downs over the years, but I'm really feeling like this is the best time to read Marvel comics in a long time.
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#13 Posted on 6.4.06 2155.13
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I dropped the X books sometime after Onslaught/Zero Tolerance. I've read a few of the trades in the past few months and have read most of the monthlies and just find myself unimpressed.

The storylines do seem intriguing but I just can't bring myself to care about any of the characters in the books. Maybe this new Cable-led X-Men will spark some interest for me.
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#14 Posted on 7.4.06 0620.55
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I may be kind of biased on the X-books. It really seems like all three guys writing the books now have an excellent feel for Cyclops, who just happens to be my favorite.

(edited by Tenken347 on 7.4.06 0421)
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