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|  #41 Posted on 6.2.06 0251.36
Reposted on: 6.2.13 0251.40 | | Yeah all that sounds about right Seadawg. | blib
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|  #42 Posted on 6.2.06 0707.39
Reposted on: 6.2.13 0707.57 | Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad
Okay. We should probably start a Kobe thread. There is no possible way you could know all that. Your view seems as clouded as mine. Accused doesn't mean did it, and if she only slept with her boyfriend what possible character assassination could they portray? It doesn't add up. You're basically saying they decided to pull that idea out of thin air to explain away something with only one logical conclusion, and because money is evil and fame is evil and this girl is an innocent one-dimensional cartoon damsel princess, they won. If it was just her boyfriend, and it was just before the incident, it didn't hurt her case at all and there's no reason for her to drop the charges, especially if she's going to take a cash settlement instead of taking his ass to jail. That only makes her look WORSE. If they attack her so what? They attacked Tyson's accuser too, but she had the fortitude to safeguard society against a sex criminal, which is more important than someone's reputation. You're sounding naive and you obviously want to believe Kobe did it, so I'll quit trying to convince you that there is some small possbility he didn't, but there is at least some possibility he didn't based even on YOUR facts. I'm not the easily snowed buffoon you seem to think I am.
Bryant's lawyers accusations were just that. On the other hand there was proof to support the victim's account. I do tend believe the victim, as the little evidence we learned about supported her story.
I also can say as a human being that if I thought lawyers were going to be allowed to start probing my sexual history (real or made up) in a public trial that I might have second thoughts as well.
Is there a possibility that Kobe was framed, and that the woman's original motivations were only money? Of course. I wasn't there, so it certainly is possible. However, the police, and rape examiner believed her story to be credible.
The woman was injured. That much we know. Bryant either caused or aggravated that wound. We know that from his examination. It is logical if you are hurt you're going to say stop. If the partner does not stop, that is considered rape. So just my knowledge of those simple facts and my understanding of human nature tend to make me believe the plaintiff. 100%? No, but certainly enough to dispute your incorrect posting.
Since I favor the woman's story because of the above undisputed facts, I also tend to believe her explanations/denials of Bryant's lawyers accusations.
(edited by blib on 6.2.06 0709) | Mr. Boffo
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| #43 Posted on 6.2.06 0727.22
Reposted on: 6.2.13 0728.23 | My favorite part of that Undertaker business was a line from CRZ's recap.
It was from the Smackdown on October 10, 2002. Earlier in the show Tracy had come out and said that she and Undertaker had had an affair.
Originally posted by CRZ
Backstage, the cameras catch Taker trying to explain to his wife how she could possibly be watching this seeing as it's taped two days ahead. I guess he hooked her up with one o' them cool-ass satellite pickup dealios, right? Anyway, she isn't interested in his explanations and hangs up on him. He is...frustrated!
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| #44 Posted on 6.2.06 0856.40
Reposted on: 6.2.13 0857.22 | Originally posted by blib
It is logical if you are hurt you're going to say stop. If the partner does not stop, that is considered rape. So just my knowledge of those simple facts and my understanding of human nature tend to make me believe the plaintiff. 100%? No, but certainly enough to dispute your incorrect posting.
Since I favor the woman's story because of the above undisputed facts, I also tend to believe her explanations/denials of Bryant's lawyers accusations.
(edited by blib on 6.2.06 0709)
Undisputed my ass. I hate Kobe Bryant as much as the next guy, and quite frankly I believe he was guilty of more than mere adultery, but those alleged facts you state were certainly not undisputed. Of primary importance is the allegation that the woman said "stop" at all.
As for VKM, I get the feeling that "no convictions" does not equal "no criminal record." He's been on trial for other things in the past, and even though he's never been found criminally liable for anything major, he doesn't have the cleanest image in the world. I just don't see a slap on the wrist as being the appropriate solution (assuming he's even found guilty, that is).
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| #45 Posted on 6.2.06 1039.21
Reposted on: 6.2.13 1040.16 | Guys, if ANYTHING, it'll be a plea bargain where Vince makes a charitable contribution and in return doesn't get a record. No judge is going to waste the court's time with a case like this if a plea is offered. That's what they do. Despite where this thread is heading with Kobe Bryant, these are two absolutely different things.
Depending on what the laws are where this happened, she might not even have a right to deny the court a plea bargain. If the prosecution makes a reasonable offer, the defense HAS to accept. If she starts a civil case, then money will be given as a settlement.
I know it's not as exciting as the idea of Vince being on Court TV, but Vince doesn't have a record for anything like this AFAIK (and you can't count the way he acts on TV as being at all legitimate unless you're prepared to tell the court that The Boogeyman is also the way he is in real life), so the court will be satisfied that a penalty is given to a first time offender and just move on.
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| #46 Posted on 6.2.06 1149.33
Reposted on: 6.2.13 1151.55 | | I'm sorry - I have to put this thread out of its misery. It's too stupid. Goodbye | | ALL ORIGINAL POSTS IN THIS THREAD ARE NOW AVAILABLE |
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