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#21 Posted on 25.1.06 1441.42
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HHH-Orton was talked about as a possibility waaaay back in the summer/fall of '03, but Orton was never seriously pushed as a potential Rumble Winner in the build-up to WrestleMania XX. By December he was already starting his feud with Foley, and it was clear to both the company and the fans that he needed far more seasoning before being pencilled in as a headliner.
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#22 Posted on 25.1.06 1511.26
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Steve, you're not mistaken. The original idea in fall 2003 was for Randy and Batista to punk HHH and Flair out of Evolution and start an all-young Evolution with Maven, Jindrak, and Cade. Wrestlemania XX would've been babyface Hunter vs. heel Orton for the title. When it was deemed that this was too early for Orton, they pushed plans back, programmed him with Foley, and Benoit got the call.

The plan all through 2004 was Hunter vs. Orton for WM21, but when Randy started getting babyface pops, they decided to make him the babyface instead, totally fucked up the turn, and his career hasn't been the same since. They tried to plough ahead anyway, with the idea that Orton would win the title from HHH at Mania, switch to Smackdown as champion, and turn heel. But because Orton wasn't over and Batista's slow burn was, Dave got the call instead.

This year, the plan for Smackdown had always been Orton vs. Batista. When Batista first got hurt in November, Orton was going to get the title then. When he decided to tough it out, the idea was that Orton would challenge Batista at Mania 22 and win. Now that Batista's gone again and Angle took his spot as top babyface, they'll either stick with the plan of Orton as challenger, or he could lose out on the Wrestlemania main event for the THIRD YEAR IN A ROW. Sucks to be Randy.
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#23 Posted on 25.1.06 1558.56
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    Originally posted by BigFredMachine
    Anyone who thinks HHH isn't winning the Rumble is fooling themselves. And Cena will win the belt back, giving HHH cheers at WM while still being a heel, and shuttling Cena and Edge back to the midcard with RVD and Benjamin.


Bingo. Cena, Angle, Boogeyman, Mickie and Triple H are your winners.
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#24 Posted on 25.1.06 2259.34
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    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
    This year, the plan for Smackdown had always been Orton vs. Batista. When Batista first got hurt in November, Orton was going to get the title then. When he decided to tough it out, the idea was that Orton would challenge Batista at Mania 22 and win. Now that Batista's gone again and Angle took his spot as top babyface, they'll either stick with the plan of Orton as challenger, or he could lose out on the Wrestlemania main event for the THIRD YEAR IN A ROW. Sucks to be Randy.


Plus, there's the expectation that WrestleMania HAS to have a "Classic Wrestling Match" each year. Last year had the Money in the Bank Match, Rey/Eddie and HBK/Angle. This year, based on predictions of the card, nothing stands out. I think that Benoit MAY get a chance at another main event simply based on his (and Angle's) ability to deliver a great match in a crunch.
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#25 Posted on 26.1.06 1936.38
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The Royal Rumble Match:
For RAW:
Rob Van Dam, The Big Show, Kane, Shawn Michaels, Triple H, Chris Masters, Carlito, Trevor Murdoch, Shelton Benjamin, Viscera, Chavo Guerrero, Jonathan Coachman, and Ric Flair

RAW's 2 remaining "mystery" spots:
Charlie Haas, Hacksaw Jim Duggan

For Smackdown:
2004 winner Chris Benoit, Rey Mysterio, Randy Orton, Matt Hardy, Orlando Jordan, Bobby Lashley, Sylvan, Animal, Johnny Nitro, Joey Mercury, Simon Dean, Booker T, Super Crazy & Psicosis

Smackdown's 1 remaining "mystery" spot:
Undertaker

Chill's ROYAL RUMBLE Prediction:
Winner: Randy Orton

WWE Championship Match:
EDGE [Champion; with Lita] vs. JOHN CENA
CHILL'S PREDICTION: Edge retains.

World Championship Match:
KURT ANGLE [Champion] vs. MARK HENRY [with Khosrow Daivari]
CHILL'S PREDICTION: Angle wins.

Grudge Match:
THE BOOGEYMAN vs. JBL
CHILL'S PREDICTION: JBL



(edited by chill on 26.1.06 1938)
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#26 Posted on 26.1.06 2135.56
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My predictions...

1) Ashley/Mickie (Diva's Match) -> Mickie wins with feet on ropes.

2) Boogeyman/JBL (Not quite a scientific match) -> Boogeyman wins by countout when he lands the worms on JBL.

3) Angle/Henry (WORLD Title Match) -> Angle wins by leglock submission. Daivari will get his nose in and get knocked out.

4) Edge/Cena (WWE Title Match) -> Edge wins by heel chicanery/Lita-ference

5) Royal Rumble Match -> SD Mystery Guy -> UT, Raw Mystery Guys -> Superfly Snuka and one of the Spirit Guys that debuted last Monday (any one). HBK is told by McMahon that he is the #1 entrant. Last 4 -> HBK, HHH, Mysterio, Orton. HBK & HHH the last 2, HHH wins when McMahon comes out and pulls the top rope down, taking out HBK.

6) Late addition: Cruiserweight title match -> Kid Kash vs the cruiserweight world -> Kash wins, don't know who else is in the match

(edited by saturn93 on 29.1.06 1318)
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#27 Posted on 27.1.06 0924.09
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Mickie

Boogeyman over scared JBL through Hall interference

Angle

Edge...Cena doesnt have enough heat back yet

Rumble-- Heart wants Rey brains says HHH is ready for his yearly Wrestlemania ME

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#28 Posted on 27.1.06 1004.14
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Mickie over Ashley.
Boogeyman over JBL.
Angle over Henry (Please, God, let this be correct).
Edge over Cena via higher Raw ratings.

Triple H wins the Rumble because he's Triple H.
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#29 Posted on 27.1.06 1153.37
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- Ashley so Mickie can snap
- Boogeyman by CO
- Edge walks out with the belt, but I don't know how
- Angle wins but NOT by pin or submission
- Put a gun to my head, I'll pick Orton to win the RR

Here are WWE.com's "official" odds (wwe.com) for 25 of the 30 participants to win the Rumble...


Big Show 3-1
Kane 4-1
HHH 5-1
Benoit 6-1
HBK 6-1
Orton 8-1
Mysterio 10-1
Viscera 10-1
Flair 15-1
Lashley 15-1
Masters 15-1
Booker 20-1
Carlito 20-1
Chavo 20-1
RVD 20-1
Shelton 20-1
Animal 25-1
Hardy 25-1
Jordan 25-1
Mercury 25-1
Nitro 25-1
Murdoch 30-1
S Dean 35-1
Sylvan 35-1
Coach 100-1

- I love how Rey and Viscera are handicapped the same. Though, to their credit, WWE is using Rey's performance in the World Title Battle Royal as rationale.

- What they say for Orlando Jordan: "Depending on the draw, Orlando Jordan can go either way."


(edited by Mr Shh on 27.1.06 1254)
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#30 Posted on 27.1.06 1218.34
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Boogeyman d. JBL
Edge d. Cena
Angle d. Henry
Ashley d. Mickie
Mysterio wins the Royal Rumble
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#31 Posted on 27.1.06 1304.34
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    Originally posted by Oliver
    Mysterio wins the Royal Rumble


Do people really believe this could happen? The only thing I see is Rey continuing to feud with Show after the Rumbus. Though not really a fan of Rey I would still love to see him win the Rumbus.

(edited by JohnHayduke on 27.1.06 1104)
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#32 Posted on 27.1.06 1711.29
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I see Triple H winning the Rumble, then jumping brands to face Angle at Wrestlemania. He last elimates Big Show (maybe with Kane's help), setting up a pre-Manis match with Show. The rationale is that Smackdown needs another big name or two. Trips winning the title from Angle at Mania lets Angle rest his injuries up, and sets up Trips to face Batista for the match that never happened last year when Batista was drafted away from Raw. While Dave is away, you have good matches with Benoit and Orton to play with.

Ashley beats Mickey, either Mickey or Trish goes heel, setting up a match at Mania.

Boogeyman gets DQed against JBL. This feud has legs and is every entertaining, they'll keep it going.

Angle beats Henry.

Edge retains, probably either by DQ due to Lita's interference or a non-clean pin from a belt shot.
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#33 Posted on 27.1.06 1800.26
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A bit of news about the Rumble, from WWE.com:

"Mr. McMahon has determined that the Superstars will no longer be drawing their Royal Rumble entry numbers online this Sunday afternoon.

Instead, Mr. McMahon will be personally conducting the drawing himself during the Royal Rumble pay-per-view."

So those predicting that Shawn Michaels will be #1 just got a boost. lol. I wonder who will be able to convince Mr. McMahon to give out #30 -- and for what in return?

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#34 Posted on 27.1.06 1836.31
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    Originally posted by JohnHayduke
      Originally posted by Oliver
      Mysterio wins the Royal Rumble


    Do people really believe this could happen? The only thing I see is Rey continuing to feud with Show after the Rumbus. Though not really a fan of Rey I would still love to see him win the Rumbus.

    (edited by JohnHayduke on 27.1.06 1104)


Honestly, I believe it could well happen. In my experience, 90% of the time, the winner of the Royal Rumble is able to be determined before it occurs in order of where storylines are going. The only return we know of happening is Rob Van Dam, and while I'd love him to win, I doubt it will happen.. there are two storylines being built up, one on each brand, for someone to win the Rumble, that being HHH returning to his throne, and Rey winning for Eddie and Batista. I honestly believe that Rey has a shot on several factors, namely:
- Rey is over with the fans. He has been his entire career, and has bene particularly over in the WWE. He is one of the few 'small men' who has been believably built up as having technical prowess and speed to best a big man, and one of the few, alongside guys like Shawn Michaels and Eddie Guerrero, to have the fan support to allow Vince to believe people would 'buy' it.
- Rey is the ultimate underdog, and we have a heel champ on Raw, and a champ that can be easily heelified for Rey on Smackdown, leaving him able to go either way for the title, assuming both hold the title (which I believe will occur). Additionally, both even have pre-built backstory with Rey.
- Finally, Faces win the Rumble. This isn't always true, but it is almost always true. HHH is not a face, ergo, HHH doesn't win the Rumble.

Honestly, the 'smart money' (bad pun intended) is on HHH, but I think the story and the buildup is there for Rey to win, and to go on to win the belt at Wrestlemania. I just hope they're ballsy enough to do it.
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#35 Posted on 28.1.06 0034.49
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    Originally posted by jimimium
    Finally, Faces win the Rumble. This isn't always true, but it is almost always true.


1988: "Hacksaw" Jim Duggan [Face]
1989: I think Big John Studd may've been face by then.
1990: Hulk Hogan
1991: Hulk Hogan
1992: Ric Flair [Heel], but this set up a bunch of other matches down the road and he won the belt instead of a shot.
1993: Yokozuna [Heel], but this also set up other stuff. Also, the champ was a face.
1994: Lex Luger & Bret Hart [Faces both].
1995: Shawn Michaels [Tweener], the infamous "Only one foot hit the floor!" finish. Fought face Diesel at Mania.
1996: Shawn Michaels [Face]
1997: Steve Austin [Tweener], was supposed to set up a bunch of stuff at WM13...but more politics happened and it set up other stuff instead.
1998: Steve Austin [Face]
1999: Vince McMahon [Heel], but Steve Austin won his title shot the next month.
2000: The Rock [Face]
2001: Steve Austin [Face]
2002: Triple H [Face]
2003: Brock Lesnar [Face]
2004: Chris Benoit [Face]
2005: Batista [Tweener]
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#36 Posted on 28.1.06 0840.20
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Rey Mysterio wins the Royal Rumble (with Randy Orton being my second, and most logical choice, but this Eddie dedication thing has thrown me off as the event draws closer)

JBL over Boogeyman

Edge and Cena = no-contest

Angle over Henry

Ashley over Mickie
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#37 Posted on 29.1.06 1028.27
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Edge over Cena
Mickie over Ashley
JBL over Boogeyman
Angle over Henry
Kid Kash will lose the CW belt

HHH wins the Rumble, last eliminating Rey.
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