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#1 Posted on 6.12.05 2131.14
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Hmmmm ... Wrestling or music? ...

Diamond Dallas Page is suing (mtv.com) rapper Jay-Z over use of the Diamond Cutter symbol.

How absurd is this? Does he need publicity to sell yoga books?

Can't Van Halen sue DDP over use of the symbol? Just look inside the OU812 album.

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#2 Posted on 6.12.05 2151.06
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I now know why I see a lot of college football players (Marcus Vick, Derrick Williams, others) do the symbol after they score a touchdown.

(Yes, I'm very out of contact with popular music and culture.)
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#3 Posted on 6.12.05 2152.26
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It's safe to say that no one gives a shit about "Self High Five" or whatever.
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#4 Posted on 6.12.05 2216.29
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Can a hand signal be trademarked?


I'd like to see a streetfight between Jay-z and DDP. DDP will land one punch then get capped.
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#5 Posted on 6.12.05 2239.26
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The reason those players do it is bc it has links to Va. HOVA is what i believe the used to holla bout.
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#6 Posted on 7.12.05 0124.52
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It's also American Sign Language for (rhymes with runt).
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#7 Posted on 7.12.05 0128.26
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That's quite a bit of alphabet soup there, isn't it? DDP sues J-Z, PDQ about OPP?
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#8 Posted on 7.12.05 0133.25
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    Originally posted by ekedolphin
    That's quite a bit of alphabet soup there, isn't it? DDP sues J-Z, PDQ about OPP?


Yeah, you know him.

What I found infinitely more interesting is that not only did DDP write a Yoga book, but freaking Rob Zombie wrote the forward for it. Talk about the completely emasculation of my early adolescence...
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#9 Posted on 7.12.05 0751.22
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    Originally posted by Brian P. Dermody
    It's also American Sign Language for (rhymes with runt).


Yeah...that's what I always took it for (until DDP starting using it).

The first time I ever saw anyone use that sign was Sammy Hagar during his very first concert tour in Van Halen.
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#10 Posted on 7.12.05 0805.24
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The Diamond Cutter/Roc-A-Fella Dynasty symbol isn't patented, so this lawsuit is stupid. Besides, if DDP does win, he's just going to get sued by the African-American sorority Delta Sigma Theta, which was founded maybe 100 years ago at Howard University.

Not sure when the women started to do the hand symbol, but for as long as I can remember, they've been doing that sign. Hell, if you ever saw the Kanye West video for the song "Through the Wire", they tie it together by showing a woman flashing the sign when he says:

"She a Delta so she been throwing that Dynasty sign"

Good Luck to him anyway.

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#11 Posted on 7.12.05 1315.20
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Probably won't work out for DDP. I think this is one of those things where the signal itself isn't a big deal, but if Jay-Z was doing the signal and saying "BAAAAANG!", he'd have a little more credence.

Of course, DDP's probably just doing it to remind us all that, in fact, he made that hand gesture once.

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#12 Posted on 7.12.05 1328.05
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He's got 99 problems, but DDP ain't one.

Can anyone trademark a hand sign? I don't think Paramount (the Star Trek owners) could sue Rock for using the eyebrow.
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#13 Posted on 7.12.05 1513.18
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To quote Rocky, "WhoawhoawhoawhoawhoawhoaWHOA!"

Back in the Army in '93, I was stationed at Ft. Gordon in Augusta, GA, going through AIT. Our 1SG, a big ol' white southerner and huge Braves fan, was really big on us troops doing diamond push-ups. (Same as a regular push-up, but instead of spreading your hands and arms on the ground before you, you put your hands together in that EXACT SAME SIGN.)

Does that mean HE gets the royalties, not DDP or Jay-Z?
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#14 Posted on 7.12.05 2039.32
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Well, without having read DDP's lawyer's brief on the matter, I'm not so sure you can trademark a hand gesture, but I wouldn't be surprised. DDP could claim that the diamond-sign is a service mark (same as a trademark, but applied to a service instead of an actual tangible product, like a car or a TV) for his entertainment services as a wrestler (or sports entertainer, if you prefer). Seems like he may only be bringing this suit for publicity reasons, though, as this case seems kinda late coming to the plate.

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