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The 7 - Pro Wrestling - RAW #651 11/14/05 A Tribute to Eddie Guerrero
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#41 Posted on 15.11.05 0802.12
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    Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff
    The part that really got me was the 10-bell salute. I know it sounds kinda corny, but it's almost as if he wouldn't officially be dead until the 10th ring, and if they stop before then, he'll still be alive. The shot of Benoit during it was especially sad.


During the 10-bell, there was a shot to the crowd of a little kid who was clutching onto (presumably) his mother and just sobing uncontrollably, which was about 5 seconds before they showed the Johnny Cash video. I hadn't really welled up to that point at all in the last 36 hours, and that's what finally got me.

The video after that was just the wrecking ball to the dam, so to speak.
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#42 Posted on 15.11.05 0820.20
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The Lovely Mrs. Tracker, who is as casual a weekly fan as you can find, watched the show until the first ad break and said simply, "I don't think I can watch this." It got her. Hard. She knows I was a fan of Eddy, but didn't see him much herself since he was on SmackDown. I thought the video tributes did a great job in expressing the energy he gave to his matches -- skilled, comic or heelish.

We did watch the whole show after all. It was an enjoyable, simple wrestling show. In the ring, work, and out of the ring. A nice combination of performers too.

I've seen three WWE tribute shows now: Owen, 9-11 and now Eddy. Please, God, let this be all that's needed.

I still can't believe that Eddy is no longer with us. I have a hard time processing this.
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#43 Posted on 15.11.05 0828.23
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It's one thing for me to miss him as a fan, but to see the faces of those who worked with and knew him is what got to me.

Starting with the absolutely haunted expression on Big Show's face to Benoit during the 10 bell salute. And I agree the young child got to me too, I think he expressed the "not fair"-ness of it all to a tee.

My wife's not much of a wrestling fan, but she even remarked on how well liked Eddy must have been. The sight of these giant men breaking down really got to her (and me).

Batista & Benoit got to me the most and I look forward to Smackdown (I haven't read any spoilers) only to see how the rest of the crew pays tribute to Eddy.

I'm glad I've got until Friday...I have a feeling I'd be exhausted after watching both shows back to back.
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#44 Posted on 15.11.05 0841.32
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I don't really even think its hit me yet that Eddie is actually gone. In a way, I still think I don't believe it.

I hope no one gets upset when I say...I loved this show.
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#45 Posted on 15.11.05 0847.18
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After sleeping on it ... I look back today and smile. A great tribute to a fine athlete ... I honestly think my favorite part of the show was when Rey Mysterio did the "Eddie Shimmy Shake" ...
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#46 Posted on 15.11.05 0907.12
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What hit was the tribute video especially the parts with him and Benoit and the frogsplashes from ECW,WCW and from when he beat Brock. It hit me like a sledgehammer.

I'm just a big crybaby. It helps to see Show and Benoit crying though. It makes me feel better about it.
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#47 Posted on 15.11.05 0929.46
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Big show did an Eddie Shimmy as well. I enjoyed that.

The emotions last night were really raw, and honestly I mean no pun intended by that. Seeing alot of those guys whose job it is to act tough on a weekly basis just breaking down out there was really touching and heartbreaking at the same time. Every person in the opening 10 bell salute was in tears. I really felt for Big Show, he looked like he really had to pull himself together to go out and do the match. I thought that Angle looked on the verge of tears on his way to the ring and that match was all he had to take his mind off of it for a little bit.

I thought the bit that Coach and Lawler threw in later during the Flair/Regal match about Eddie being friends with anyone no matter their creed, race, whatever was well-intentioned but came off sounding a bit weird. If nothing else, the outpouring of very real emotion from alot of the roster shows that he was held in the highest regard.

I thought the tribute was classy, I'm glad that they did it. But I can't even imagine what any of his closest friends are feeling. When they don't have a show to do and it really hits them will be very hard.



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#48 Posted on 15.11.05 1007.00
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    Originally posted by The Squire
    Big show did an Eddie Shimmy as well. I enjoyed that.


As did Cena at the end of the Five Knuckle Shuffle. I've talked this to death in my head an on other forums but the moments that got me: The entire crew at the begining, after holding up through the first showing of the Hurt video, I lost it during the second, Benoit's segment, The replay of the end of WM XX, Stephanie's segment, and the closing.

I have the feeling like other have said, Smackdown should feature lots of Eddie match footage. I can't imagine how emotional the Chavo and Benoit matches are going to be Friday.
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#49 Posted on 15.11.05 1046.07
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Trish Stratus also did an Eddie Shimmy as well during her entrance.

There's not much more I can say that anyone else has said. I don't know if I can speak for everyone, but I'm still crying like a baby as I type this, remembering the show last night, and all the memories Eddie gave all of us. I also think of how much of an inspiration he is. When I'm stuck in a jam, I can't help but think of how he's had far more rougher obstacles than I'll likely ever face and how he DID beat them all. No other wrestler affects me like that.

This was a very, very classy show, and kudos to everyone in the company for rebooking everything at a hasty pace for the greater good of everyone. Watching the show and realizing how much everyone loved the guy and showed it makes my own feelings a little easier to deal with. I know I'll experience the same thing watching Smackdown.
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#50 Posted on 15.11.05 1120.30
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My wife usually reads when RAW is on and occassionally mocks me for watching such "trash" (her words). Last night, she saw how upset I was over the loss of Eddie at the beginning of the show, closed her magazine, gave me a kiss and left the room. She always liked Eddie (one of the few) and wanted to show respect by not hanging around and making snide comments. It doesn't sound like much, but to me it was the nicest thing she could have done.

I feel so bad for Eddie's wife and kids. Thankfully, he comes from a large extended family and they will be taken care of and his kids reminded what a great man their father was.

This is a huge loss for the wrestling community. Eddie is one of the few wrestlers out there that I have never heard any negative fan reaction from. People plit on a lot of wrestlers (HHH, Rock, Cena, Jericho, UT etc) but Eddie always seemed to relate and touch everyone. Even in bad angles, people still wanted to see him. Heel, face, tweener, it didn;t matter. Eddie gave his all and everyone loved him for it.

I did not cry last night as I am still having a hard time beleiving he is actually dead. When I saw online (ESPN) that a wreslter had passed away, I thought it was a retired wreslter. I never guessed Eddie. I was in complete shock when I opened the link and saw it was Eddie. I am still in shock.

I will treasure my many memories of Eddie and he will live on in my house through the magic of DVD/VHS.

God bless you Eddie. You will be sorely missed.
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#51 Posted on 15.11.05 1126.54
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    Originally posted by ekedolphin
    and though they never wrestled on Earth, he looks forward to seeing him in heaven and maybe even wrestling in front of the audience of One, the Lord Jesus Christ. Wouldn’t *that* be something? I wonder how He determines the winners, though.


    When you wrestle in heaven, everyone wins.

    God bless you, Eddie.
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#52 Posted on 15.11.05 1300.06
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    Originally posted by ekedolphin
    It might be dickish of me to notice that Orton’s wearing an “rKo” T-shirt, but… he is.


I noticed it too. But Kurt Angle wore his own shirt, and I believe Matt Hardy was wearing his shirt during the opening tribute, so it's not like Randy was the only guy to do it.
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#53 Posted on 15.11.05 1305.40
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Saw the clips that they have on wwe.com (under both Raw and Unlimited), and Benoit's tribute killed me, as did the 10-bell salute. But it was a nice touch sticking his last match in there (after Benjamin's tribute). Just his reaction after beating Mr. Kennedy, clutching his head, then subtly looking up and waving at him... I can't wait to see SD now.
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#54 Posted on 15.11.05 1459.07
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two things:

1) couldn't they let ReyRey take off that silly mask just once? since everyone was being real and raw and honest?

2) I thought it was interesting that the only guy who did not just break down was the born again Christian, HBK.
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#55 Posted on 15.11.05 1537.45
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    Originally posted by 3Is
    two things:

    1) couldn't they let ReyRey take off that silly mask just once? since everyone was being real and raw and honest?

    2) I thought it was interesting that the only guy who did not just break down was the born again Christian, HBK.



1) In Lucha, the mask ain't silly, it's important. And I think it was a great way to show homage to Eddie's background working the Lucha Artform.

2) Eddie also was a born-again Christian. And by the sounds of it, he and Shawn Micheals talked extesnivly about their simular faiths and believes. As an orthadox Roman Catholic, we tend to call them "Funeral Celebrations". What's there to celebrate you ask? To celebrate the life of a man. And to celebrate about the Mercy of God. And to celebrate the possibility of the entrance of a person to the Kingdom of God.

This is why Shawn Michaels did not cry. Why should he? As a Christian, he believes there is nothing better than eternal life with God. Micheals remembers the greatness that is Eddie, but he knows that now Eddie is in a place so much better than here.

Makes me feel better just thinking about that.

(edited by El Nastio on 15.11.05 1638)
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#56 Posted on 15.11.05 1549.21
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Did anyone else hear Joey Styles say that Eddie Guerrero was the only Spanish wrestler to win the World Title. Or were my ears playing tricks on me? What about Pedro Morales?

And it was too emotional to watch. I kept switching over to Monday Night Football when I started to get misty eyed.
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#57 Posted on 15.11.05 1557.31
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    Originally posted by britishiles
    Did anyone else hear Joey Styles say that Eddie Guerrero was the only Spanish wrestler to win the World Title. Or were my ears playing tricks on me? What about Pedro Morales?.

Your ears were playing tricks. I believe the quote was, "Eddie was only the second Hispanic wrestler to win the World title."

I couldn't get through the whole show. Even my wife, who constantly mocks my wrestling love, broke down a few times. I had to watch other things to avoid totally losing it. I plan to sit down with both Raw and Smackdown at some point this weekend and give myself a chance to let it all out. Right now I'm still numb.
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#58 Posted on 15.11.05 1612.16
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    Originally posted by Shem
    Batista's talk of how much pain Eddie was in and how he was "struggling" physically was disturbing. I certainly wouldn't have suspected, based on his in-ring performance. It's uncomfortable (but necessary) to be reminded how far these guys are willing to fuck up their bodies to keep performing for my entertainment.


It's important to note that, unlike the majority of the guys on the roster, Eddie couldn't take painkillers because he was a recovering drug addict. Imagine working a match as brutal as the SummerSlam ladder match and then continuing to travel perpetually and wrestle three days a week without taking a break and without anything to dull the pain.




I really don't think it's appropriate to question the intentions of people who appeared last night, let alone fantasy rebook segments of the show.
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#59 Posted on 15.11.05 1615.01
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    Originally posted by SchippeWreck
      Originally posted by britishiles
      Did anyone else hear Joey Styles say that Eddie Guerrero was the only Spanish wrestler to win the World Title. Or were my ears playing tricks on me? What about Pedro Morales?.

    Your ears were playing tricks. I believe the quote was, "Eddie was only the second Hispanic wrestler to win the World title."


Actually both of your ears were playing tricks. I believe the quote was something like "Eddie was the only Luchadore to win the World Title".

I don't think I've ever payed that close attention to an episode of Raw. The whole thing was just surreal, & it was an amazing & fitting tribute to an incredible performer.

RIP Eddie.
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#60 Posted on 15.11.05 1706.14
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    Originally posted by Von Maestro
      Originally posted by SchippeWreck
        Originally posted by britishiles
        Did anyone else hear Joey Styles say that Eddie Guerrero was the only Spanish wrestler to win the World Title. Or were my ears playing tricks on me? What about Pedro Morales?.

      Your ears were playing tricks. I believe the quote was, "Eddie was only the second Hispanic wrestler to win the World title."


    Actually both of your ears were playing tricks. I believe the quote was something like "Eddie was the only Luchadore to win the World Title".

    I don't think I've ever payed that close attention to an episode of Raw. The whole thing was just surreal, & it was an amazing & fitting tribute to an incredible performer.

    RIP Eddie.


Sure it wasn't "first Mexican wrestler to win the World Title"? If so, that would be accurate since Pedro Morales is Puerto Rican...
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