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| #1 Posted on 8.11.05 2304.25 Reposted on: 8.11.12 2304.29 | http://www.wrestlingobserver.com/wo/news/headlines/default.asp?aID=14721
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Velocity
Sylvan pinned Funaki after a DDT. (Velocity Graphics, but no announce team until after this match.)
LOD pinned Nunzio/Vito after the Doomsday Device.
Bob Holly pinned Simon Dean after an Alabama Slam.
Kid Kash pinned Scotty 2 Hotty after a moonsault. Scotty might have been injured here as well. The moonsault was a double jump where Kash stands on the top facing center ring, jumps to face away and then jumps to actually do the moonsault. I could tell when he was in the air it wasn't going to land right. It looked as if Kash's knees went straight into Hotty's arm and/or head. Probably an arm injury based on post match reaction.
Spanky and London over Burchill and Regal when Spanky pinned Burchill. Finish was a double team enziguri from London into a Spanky Stroke for the pin.
Smackdown
Rey over Orton by DQ when Coboy Bob interferes. As the Ortons work over Rey, Matt Hardy comes in and cleans house on the heels.
In ring interview with MNM to do the stupid Top Model tie in. To make a stupid segment short, MNM brings out Michelle, insults her, Michelle slaps Melina, Melina retalliates and back Michelle into corner, which of course brings in the Mexicools to save the day because they love Top Model or something. Mexicools beat up heels, dance with model.
Lashely pinned Jordan with the dominator in a Survivor Series Qualifying match. (Lashley gets on to 5 man squad to represent Smackdown)
Eddie over Kennedy by DQ in another qualifying match. Ref bump allows Eddie to set up Kennedy for a DQ by tossing him a chair right as Charles Robinson gets up. Kennedy goes nuts and then really does hit Eddie with the chair. (Backstage interview segment later on tonight would show Eddie with a concussion).
Pierrothito pinned Buzz Stone (?) Couldn't quite make out the second guys name, no graphics on screen to verify either. This was horrible and they blew several spots. Nice elbow off the top for the finish though.
They did an interview with the "Dicks" backstage. They really went all out with this one. Some phrases said during this gem were, "Dicks take a pounding", "cocky", "rock hard", "Can LOD beat the Dicks?", etc. This may come across dumb on TV, but in the arena, everyone was laughing and I just don't see how they can be heels if they keep doing this. The crowd loved this.
JBL pinned Benoit with the clothesline from hell after Booker T interfered when Benoit seemingly had it won. This was another qualifying match.
Edge vs Batista. Edge did not end up doing anything physical. It was all a set up from Bischoff. After Batista and Edge were in the ring, Bischoff showed up on the big screen and Teddy Long told him to get out. Blah blah blah, Masters jumps Long's security guards and puts Teddy in the Masterlock. Then they jump in a car and leave. The major faces (including JBL) from Smackdown run out to help Teddy. Teddy tells them to go get the Raw guys. So the faces pile in JBL's limo and speed off. This sets up the master plan. So Batista is in the ring and Kane's pyro goes off, he comes down the aisle, then Big Show enters from the other side of the arena. Edge, Show, and Kane gang up on Batista and lay him out to end the show. The non major faces from Smackdown kept coming in one by one and were quickly dumped by either Big Show or Kane.
Before we get to the results which I will send in shortly after sending this, tonight's potentially major news is that Batista was injured. Odds are it was from the double chokeslam from Kane and Big Show to end Smackdown. After they stopped taping for TV, Orton came out for the local main event (Batista vs Orton vs Eddie) As Orton was on the mic, Batista was still down. There was no ref in the ring until Orton called for one right before he put the boots to Batista. Therefore, I don't think Randy had any communication from Batista that he couldn't continue. As soon as Jimmy Korderis figured it out, he threw up the X symbol and it was an obvious visual scramble to get out of there. Within a minute or so, they set up a quick spinebuster spot and Batista just rolled over and covered Orton for the 3. (no Eddie because he was selling the concussion angle from earlier in the show) Once the match was over, help came out from the back and Batista did get up eventually and walk out with the two assistants, however he didn't acknowledge the crowd at all or hold up his belt. He just got out of there and straight to the back.
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You know, I like the idea of a Raw vs. SmackDown feud, but the execution has been pretty poor. I mean, logically, why would people like the Big Show and Matt Hardy be so gung ho to represent shows they've only been on for a few months (or, in Hardy's case, weeks?). Isn't it a little out of character for Kane to be coming to the defense of Raw, when he's a psychotic monster? And, most importantly, what do the Bobby Lashleys/Ken Kennedys/Eddie Guerreros/Carlitos/Shelton Benjamins of the world have to GAIN by being in this match? Is there any tangible reward for them other than being on the "superior brand"?
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| #2 Posted on 9.11.05 0036.16 Reposted on: 9.11.12 0042.17 | In storyline terms, it's a big deal for these wrestlers to be in a high-profile match at a major PPV. Helping your brand win at Survivor Series will also put them in better favour with their GM.
So it's Kane/Big Show/Michaels/Carlito and either Edge (if healthy) or Masters vs. Lashley/Eddie/Bradshaw and probably Rey and Batista (presuming now that Batista isn't hurt). If Batista is hurt, Matt Hardy will likely get into the match, especially if Edge is there too. So oddly enough, it's an all-face Smackdown side except for JBL against an all-heel Raw side except for Michaels (Show and Kane are faces, true, but their size makes them easy heels). I honestly don't know who's going to win at Survivor Series...if I had to guess, I'd saw Raw wins thanks to Michaels gutting out another superman performance. | Freeway
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| #3 Posted on 9.11.05 0118.49 Reposted on: 9.11.12 0123.33 | According to the dirtsheets, Batista tore out his lattimus dorsi. | Dexley's Midnight Jogger
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| #4 Posted on 9.11.05 0454.28 Reposted on: 9.11.12 0455.14 | Originally posted by Freeway420 According to the dirtsheets, Batista tore out his lattimus dorsi.
I'll be the Bobby Heenen to your Gorilla Monsoon, and say "Yeah, he hurt his back!" | AWArulz
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| #5 Posted on 9.11.05 0550.34 Reposted on: 9.11.12 0551.01 | Originally posted by Freeway420 According to the dirtsheets, Batista tore out his lattimus dorsi.
Must have hit to one side or the other unevenly. Here's a medical link. http://www.exrx.net/Muscles/LatissimusDorsi.html | Duo_Shinigami_1083
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| #6 Posted on 9.11.05 0833.57 Reposted on: 9.11.12 0835.06 | They did an interview with the "Dicks" backstage. They really went all out with this one. Some phrases said during this gem were, "Dicks take a pounding", "cocky", "rock hard", "Can LOD beat the Dicks?", etc. This may come across dumb on TV, but in the arena, everyone was laughing and I just don't see how they can be heels if they keep doing this. The crowd loved this.
I guess that the WWE weren't aware that The Shane Twins once played The Johnsons on the early days of TNA. At least (I hope) they don't come out wearing flesh-colored trunks. | britishiles
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| #7 Posted on 9.11.05 0902.35 Reposted on: 9.11.12 0907.21 | Originally posted by Duo_Shinigami_1083 They did an interview with the "Dicks" backstage. They really went all out with this one. Some phrases said during this gem were, "Dicks take a pounding", "cocky", "rock hard", "Can LOD beat the Dicks?", etc. This may come across dumb on TV, but in the arena, everyone was laughing and I just don't see how they can be heels if they keep doing this. The crowd loved this.
I guess that the WWE weren't aware that The Shane Twins once played The Johnsons on the early days of TNA. At least (I hope) they don't come out wearing flesh-colored trunks.
Trust me. Vince/Steph/Creative knows what wrestler has done what gimmick in TNA and probably a few of the bigger indys like ROH as well.
Unless you are being sarcastic | Mike Zeidler
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| #8 Posted on 9.11.05 1010.04 Reposted on: 9.11.12 1010.17 | Originally posted by Duo_Shinigami_1083 At least (I hope) they don't come out wearing flesh-colored trunks.
They were actually dressed more like The Fabulous Ones with the little collars/bowties, wristcuffs, and sparkly suspenders. | TL_Hopper
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| #9 Posted on 9.11.05 1122.10 Reposted on: 9.11.12 1123.03 | Originally posted by Big Bad In storyline terms, it's a big deal for these wrestlers to be in a high-profile match at a major PPV. Helping your brand win at Survivor Series will also put them in better favour with their GM
While I see your point, it still doesn't make much sense. Why would Michaels or Kane or Big Show WANT to be in favor with Eric Bischoff? | krakken2000
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| #10 Posted on 9.11.05 1206.07 Reposted on: 9.11.12 1207.37 | Originally posted by TL_Hopper
Originally posted by Big Bad In storyline terms, it's a big deal for these wrestlers to be in a high-profile match at a major PPV. Helping your brand win at Survivor Series will also put them in better favour with their GM
While I see your point, it still doesn't make much sense. Why would Michaels or Kane or Big Show WANT to be in favor with Eric Bischoff?
To keep from getting traded to Smackdown? | Deputy Marshall
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| #11 Posted on 9.11.05 1348.45 Reposted on: 9.11.12 1349.14 | Wow. Between this and the Angle/Cena angle in the second hour of RAW, the booking has been even more non-sensical this week than it usually is. What gives? Is there someone new in creative?
It's one thing when they had Edge and Masters as the main guys Bischoff was sending to Smackdown. But...Big Show and Kane?
Originally posted by Big Bad So it's Kane/Big Show/Michaels/Carlito and either Edge (if healthy) or Masters vs. Lashley/Eddie/Bradshaw and probably Rey and Batista (presuming now that Batista isn't hurt). If Batista is hurt, Matt Hardy will likely get into the match, especially if Edge is there too.
I'm fairly certain the plan was at one point to have another Eddy/Batista title match at Survivor Series, but the booking at the tapings last night (before Batista got injured) seemed to indicate those plans were scrapped...which is odd, because that meant Smackdown was going to go into Survivor Series with the RAW vs. Smackdown 5-on-5 match as their marquee match, while RAW will most likely have that plus the Cena/Angle rematch.
Has WWE just thrown their hands in the air and conceded that Smackdown's the B-show brand? | Mike Zeidler
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| #12 Posted on 9.11.05 1536.53 Reposted on: 9.11.12 1537.22 | Well to be fair, Smackdown will probably have UT/Orton as their big match, so as to not overload the card too much having the Champions be on the Raw & Smackdown teams would seem like the most logical avenue to go down, but Cena has the issue with Bischoff/Angle, so I can't see him being on the Raw team.
On a somewhat funny note, Pierrothito showed up a little late to the Conseco field house, and came in the wrong door. I noticed he was a wrestler (who else would bring rolling luggage to the field house) and could see he was having some trouble getting across that he was there for the show that night. I went over and translated for him, then went with him to the security shack to translate again so he could get into the backstage area.
Before that, I ran into Ashley at Starbucks in the field house lobby, she was dressed like a punkier version of a 60's housewife in a grey and white polka dotted dress with a black sweater (with embroidered skull!) buttoned once at the neck over it, and black fishnets. Not quite sure why she was there, perhaps to train a bit more? I also got to talk to some of the crew guys about the broadcast equipment they use, and how the new parts of the Raw set are a complete pain. | geemoney
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| #13 Posted on 9.11.05 1550.56 Reposted on: 9.11.12 1550.56 | Originally posted by Zundian Before that, I ran into Ashley at Starbucks in the field house lobby, she was dressed like a punkier version of a 60's housewife in a grey and white polka dotted dress with a black sweater (with embroidered skull!) buttoned once at the neck over it, and black fishnets. Not quite sure why she was there, perhaps to train a bit more?
Probably to spend some time with her new boyfriend, Matt Hardy. | Freeway
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| #14 Posted on 10.11.05 0130.29 Reposted on: 10.11.12 0130.34 | WWE.com has an update basically saying that Batista's checked in with Dr. Andrews in Birmingham and will make a decision regarding surgery by the weekend. If he opts for surgery, he's out for "up to three months" (according to WWE.com), which probably would be 8-14 for a normal person.
Also, regarding GMs and favors: The logic within the promotion is that champions get paid more than others in their divisions. Cena, Batista, Carlito, MNM, Kane, Big Show, Juventud & Trish are supposed to get more coin, better treatment and just have cushier times because they're recognized as the best. Everybody wants to be a champion (or stay a champion), so the logic dicates that HBK would do things to stay in favor with his GM so he can get the title.
And national ads in movie theatres and TV shows promote a Batista/Guerrero World Title bout, so I'm not sure if plans changed or if they were going to get to that match via circular booking...but that may be out the window now. | Tribal Prophet
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| #15 Posted on 11.11.05 0103.39 Reposted on: 11.11.12 0107.31 | Originally posted by AWArulz
Originally posted by Freeway420 According to the dirtsheets, Batista tore out his lattimus dorsi.
Must have hit to one side or the other unevenly. Here's a medical link. http://www.exrx.net/Muscles/LatissimusDorsi.html
Just watched the match on tv now, and it looks like it happened from taking a big boot from Kane 2 seconds into the beat down. Didn't notice anything weird about how he landed, but he definitely grabbed his side right away. Looked like just a freak injury.
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| #16 Posted on 11.11.05 2105.17 Reposted on: 11.11.12 2105.45 | Post-SmackDown, they announced that next week Batista will defend the World Title against Eddie Guerrero and Randy Orton in a triple-threat match. I see them taking the title off of Batista at that point (please, God, give it to Guerrero), and have something happen to Batista that'll logically write him out of storylines for the next few months.
Damn. | ICEMAN
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| #17 Posted on 12.11.05 0906.15 Reposted on: 12.11.12 0906.36 | Originally posted by Tribal Prophet
Just watched the match on tv now, and it looks like it happened from taking a big boot from Kane 2 seconds into the beat down. Didn't notice anything weird about how he landed, but he definitely grabbed his side right away. Looked like just a freak injury.
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I noticed that too and also he says something to Show when he picks him up. Probably just told him he was hurt. | oldschoolhero
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| #18 Posted on 12.11.05 1419.39 Reposted on: 12.11.12 1421.15 | If they're smart, IF, they put the title on Orton then push Eddie as a full-blown face against him for the next coupla months. Have Guerrero take the belt off of him, then you've got a nice match-up set for WrestleMania when Batista returns.
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