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#1 Posted on 27.9.05 2200.53
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These are courtesy of PWInsider.com

Xplosion
NWA Tag Team champions The Naturals & Lance Hoyt defeated Elix Skipper & Cassidy Riley & David Young.

iMPACT! (airing 10/01)
TNA X-Division champion AJ Styles pinned Roderick Strong with a rollup. Christopher Daniels came out to ringside, trying to distract Styles but it didn't work. The finish was screwed up.

Shane Douglas interviewed Monty Brown.

Monty Brown pinned Lex Lovett with the Pounce.

Backstage, Raven was attacking everyone in sight.

They aired a video package on the X-Division.

Chris Sabin defeated Petey Williams and Alex Shelley in a Three-Way match. Sabin pinned Shelley with a Cradleshock. Williams hit the Canadian Destroyer on Sabin after the bell.

Backstage, Shane Douglas tried to get a work with Larry Zbyszko, who entered an office with former UFC star Tito Ortiz.

Jeff Hardy fought Rhino to a no contest when Abyss attacked Hardy. The lights went out and Sabu hit the ring to make the save.

They aired footage of Jeff Jarrett's NWA title win over Raven in Canada. They showed Team Canada's Scott D'Amore coming into Jarrett's locker room after the title change telling him that their plan came together, revealing D'Amore helped set up the scenario for the title change.

NWA champion Jeff Jarrett and America's Most Wanted came to the ring. Jarrett brought out Scott D'Amore saying he was the man responsible for bringing Jarrett back to the NWA title. D'Amore said that he kept his part of the bargain and it was time for Jeff to do the same. 3 Live Kru's music hit and they came to the ring. Konnan grabbed the ring mic and said that Jarrett was putting the crowd to sleep. All six brawled. Team 3-D hit the ring from backstage, debuting. They hit the Deadly Death Drop on both members of AMW as Jarrett escaped. Jarrett went up the ramp but Kevin Nash appeared from behind and stopped him. They brawled into the ring and Nash hit the Jacknife powerbomb on Jarrett. Nash grabbed the mic and challenged Jarrett for a title match at Bound for Glory. Devon Deadly then grabbed the mic and challenged AMW to face them next week on Impact. BRD took the mic and said to everyone in Stamford, "Trademark this." That phrase was also on the back of their T-shirts.

Between the tapings, Roderick Strong came to the ring and said he could defeat AJ Styles and challenged him for a rematch. AJ Styles won with a Styles Clash, so they retaped the original bout.

iMPACT! (airing 10/08)
They showed footage of Raven being taken away by security.

3 Live Kru defeated Team Canada when Ron Killings hit an Ax Kick on Eric Young for the pin. Kip James watched the match from the top of the ramp. After the match, Team Canada attacked BG James. Kip James made the save, but Konnan got in Kip's face.

They aired a promo pushing the Ultimate X match at Bound for Glory.

Christopher Daniels defeated Matt Bentley and Austin Aries in a Three-Way match with Angel's Wings on Aries. During the match, Traci Brooks was with Bentley. Petey Williams came to ringside to grab Brooks, but was attacked by Sabin.

They aired a video pushing Bound for Glory.

They ran a video pushing Rhino.

Abyss pinned Sonny Siaki with a Black Hole Slam.

They showed a Samoa Joe video.

Larry Zbyszko announced that Tito Ortiz would be the special referee for Jeff Jarrett vs. Kevin Nash at Bound for Glory. Jeff Jarrett came to the ring. Kevin Nash came out. They brawled inside the ring. Ortiz grabbed Nash and choked him down, then went after Jarrett when Jarrett went after the downed Nash.

Backstage, Shane Douglas interviewed Christopher Daniels, who said he was going to right the wrong at Bound for Glory in his Iron Man match. Daniels said he would face three opponents of AJ's choice on next week's Impact (episode three) within 15 minutes. AJ came out and accepted.

Team 3-D defeated America's Most Wanted, DQ when Gail Kim debuted, hitting the ring and lowblowing BRD. Jeff Jarrett hit the ring. AMW gave the Death Sentence to both members of Team 3-D. Jarrett broke a guitar over BRD's head and AMW hit Devon with a chair. 3D was left bleeding in the ring.

ark Match
Samoa Joe & Alex Shelley defeated Apollo and Chris Sabin when Joe choked out Apollo.

On paper, sounds like two solid weeks of TNA & for having only an hour per episode, they've crammed alot in there. It appears that they're doing exactly what they should be & that's mixing in the old with new. I, for one, am looking forward to checking it out.

Daddy likey Gail Kim.

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#2 Posted on 27.9.05 2211.02
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So they are doing a Nash/Jarrett program. That isn't very encouraging. The tapings look fairly good, but it doesn't seem like they're the type of blowaway shows that they need to have every week.
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#3 Posted on 27.9.05 2308.43
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I'm supremely underwhelmed and disappointed by this Nash/Jarrett business. I don't understand why that TNA needs to keep acting like the poor man's WCW.

Everything else sounds decent. Though, it looks like the progressive times of the internet era have ended.
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#4 Posted on 28.9.05 0015.34
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Why? We already know why, and the reason makes sense. As little as ANY of us like it, Nash and Jarrett are names that people know. That's what the network wants. Give it a few months or a year, and maybe things will be different.

Better to put both guys in one match and have five or six stellar matches with other guys. Championship belts mean as much as the fictitious wins and losses each week. Get over it.

Enjoy the fact that Styles, Daniels, Joe, Sabin, Williams, Abyss, Raven, AMW, etc are around to put on great matches.

If Jarrett being champ or facing Nash is enough for you to say no to TNA and all the guys I just named above, then don't watch. Is this really that big a deal?
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#5 Posted on 28.9.05 0040.20
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Its not enough to make me stop watching TNA, as I said, it just feels like they are going backwards.

I don't see how a Nash/Jarrett world title program helps the company in the long-run since it obviously didn't earlier this year. Nor did Jarrett's one year title reign, which ended in a somewhat anti-climactic fashion.
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#6 Posted on 28.9.05 0127.40
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I completely understand what you're saying. And I agree as far as saying that there are other programs I'd like to see instead.

But how can you say Nash/Jarrett from earlier this year didn't help TNA? For all we know, it was one of the programs that helped sway Spike TV excecutives to pursue TNA. It definitely did not hurt TNA, and I think you'd be hard-pressed to prove it didn't help.
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#7 Posted on 28.9.05 0139.43
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    Originally posted by chill
    I completely understand what you're saying. And I agree as far as saying that there are other programs I'd like to see instead.

    But how can you say Nash/Jarrett from earlier this year didn't help TNA? For all we know, it was one of the programs that helped sway Spike TV excecutives to pursue TNA. It definitely did not hurt TNA, and I think you'd be hard-pressed to prove it didn't help.


And I'd like to add that the Nash/Jarrett meetings (even in WWF vs. Diesel) have always been surprisingly great. The last match they had was actually very well done for what it was.
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#8 Posted on 28.9.05 0201.26
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I agree with Chill, i mean ok, so Jarrett has the title and Jarrett/Nash might not be the best program in the world, but nobody quits watching WWE when Triple H does the same thing, and frankly I'd rather put up Jarrett and watch the rest of TNA's roster than put up with Triple H, UT, Hogan and whoever else and WWE's roster.

They might be rushing the Dudleys vs. AMW, but hey add another great match to the ppv.

The shows might not look absolutely incredible, but they have to introduce everyone to new viewers as well as put people that people recognize, all in a one hour show, so I'm happy with it. Besides the two X Division three ways should be great and it looks like they are really behind Daniels which is great. Also good to see Traci back with Bentley.

I like that they are showing videos of Monty, Joe and Rhino to hype them, hopefully Joe and Rhino will get to get strong wins on the next two shows.



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#9 Posted on 28.9.05 0317.34
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    Originally posted by chill
    I completely understand what you're saying. And I agree as far as saying that there are other programs I'd like to see instead.

    But how can you say Nash/Jarrett from earlier this year didn't help TNA? For all we know, it was one of the programs that helped sway Spike TV excecutives to pursue TNA. It definitely did not hurt TNA, and I think you'd be hard-pressed to prove it didn't help.


They made the deal with Spike TV while Raven was world champion and Nash was long gone for months on end. This was also after their WGN deal fell through the cracks.

I don't want to get into it too much.

For now I'm willing to see this through and hopefully they will end it properly this time hopefully give the title to Monty Brown or somebody equally deserving of the world title. And it ain't Kevin Nash.
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#10 Posted on 28.9.05 0327.13
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This at least quiets my fear that the "first face you'll see on IMPACT who will be the face of TNA" would end up being Nash.

I'll definitely check it out on the repeat. The Saturday show conflicts with OVW television right now.
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#11 Posted on 28.9.05 0331.49
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Good thing they have replays of the Saturday episodes Monday @ midnight Snookum .

No excuses.

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#12 Posted on 28.9.05 0559.43
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Quite underwhelmed by how throwaway a lot of the stuff sounds, but I guess that was to be expected if they were treating them as introduction shows.

The Jarrett/Nash/Ortiz stuff definitely sounds like the highlight of the tapings and I don't see why people have such a problem with it. New Spike viewers definitely aren't going to buy the next PPV on the back of AJ Styles or Chris Daniels when they've only just been introduced to them and have had a bare minimum number of TV matches to judge them by. Not only was Nash/Jarrett much more entertaining than anyone predicted earlier this year, but they need a match like that so people will be tempted to buy the PPV and see all the other guys working to their full potential.

I'm very surprised at the lack of Samoa Joe on the shows. One hype video for the entire two weeks. They could have surely fitted a squash in there somewhere.
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#13 Posted on 28.9.05 0632.50
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    Originally posted by CTX
    I'm very surprised at the lack of Samoa Joe on the shows. One hype video for the entire two weeks. They could have surely fitted a squash in there somewhere.


From what I've been reading, they really want to hype Joe's iMPACT debut by building him up with vignettes. Sounds like they wanna strap the rocket to this guy.

As far as the Nash/Jarrett thing goes, we all know what match is really the main event of BFG & that's Styles vs. Daniels ... that one has to close the show.
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#14 Posted on 28.9.05 1244.00
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    Originally posted by Quezzy
    I agree with Chill, i mean ok, so Jarrett has the title and Jarrett/Nash might not be the best program in the world, but nobody quits watching WWE when Triple H does the same thing, and frankly I'd rather put up Jarrett and watch the rest of TNA's roster than put up with Triple H, UT, Hogan and whoever else and WWE's roster.


The problem with that is that WWE is a 40 year old company with the biggest wrestling stars in the world and a name that, for better or for worse, has become synonymous with pro wrestling worldwide. TNA is a small company that has seemingly been on the brink of extinction for the three years that it has been existence and is probably not even well known to a substantial portion of the American wrestling (read:WWE) audience. It may well be true that WWE makes the same mistakes, but TNA simply cannot afford to do the same things wrong that WWE does. If they do, then a year from now, WWE still will be publicly traded company raking in many millions of dollars in revenue while TNA is (at best) a part of WWE's ever expanding video library.

And you may not want to watch Triple H, UT, and Hogan (I can't blame you), but I can guarantee that the "casual" wrestling fan wants to watch those guys as well as Cena, Batista, Angle, Flair, etc. rather than Jarrett and Nash. And as much as I like to make the Jarrett-Triple H parallels and as much as I don't care for either one of them, you have to remember that Triple H was (and to some extent still is) a draw for WWF/E while I daresay Jeff Jarrett has never drawn a dime as a headliner in WCW or TNA.

    Originally posted by CTX
    New Spike viewers definitely aren't going to buy the next PPV on the back of AJ Styles or Chris Daniels when they've only just been introduced to them and have had a bare minimum number of TV matches to judge them by.


If they showcase Styles, Daniels, et al. then new viewers may not know them, but if they seem what those guys can do, they may be inclined to buy a PPV to see them in action. If they showcase Nash and Jarrett, then new viewers may know them, but I highly doubt people will be inclined to fork over $30 to see the guy they didn't pay to see as WWF champion 11 years ago and the guy that rode to the ring on a horse and lost to a woman during his last stint in WWF.
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#15 Posted on 28.9.05 1444.28
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Also, and I haven't seen it reported anywhere, 2005 WWE Diva Search contestant Alexis was with TNA, standing ringside during both shows' tapings. She was tossing TNA shirts to the fans, serving as eye candy (T 'n A for TNA!) etc...
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#16 Posted on 28.9.05 1622.29
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I personally dont mind Nash and Jarrett (Well, at least Nash) from the name recognition standpoint. But I cannot wait to see these other guys that I have seen very little of. From what I hear, AJ Styles is the bomb. And, of course, if Shane Douglas is on the program, ill be watching, even if he is just an announcer.
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#17 Posted on 28.9.05 1630.19
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I definately want a "TRADEMARK THIS!" shirt.

Sounds OK, but I would have preferred to see heavyweight title change on the first show, though.
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#18 Posted on 28.9.05 1721.33
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I don't disagree with what you say BigSteve, I see where you're coming from. But I'll just add that the same average fan that likes to see Triple H, Cena, Batista, etc despite some internet fans not liking them are the same fans that like Kevin Nash, despite whether we like him or not, which is why he is in the title match.

I see your point about Jarrett though, but I'm not sure who else you put Nash against, Raven would be interesting, atleast in promos, but I'm not sure about that matchup in the ring.

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#19 Posted on 28.9.05 2122.13
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i think that this situation is and can be be looked like an "understandable bad vs. enlightening positive" thing...

the company is going i guess with the idea that the big program should be with 2 big names... it may pull in the viewers whom look for a reminding factor, which is ok on the surface if TNA uses those viewers to get their more unknown people over, like styles, joe, daniels and so on and so on.

while i would argue that if you are going to use "names" it should be people like raven, rhino, jeff hardy, etc. they decided to use nash and JJ.

what will hopefully make this work is the fact that if they can pull in people to see their favorite older stars (which works in the WWE with hogan, austin, etc.), they can make those nash/JJ viwers buy a PPV or watch a show that has a lot of really really great guys like joe, styles, daniels, etc.

so, for the lesser evil of it, they tease the viewer with the names (it has to be possible that someone sees nash and gets excited), and when those people watch that show they watch the cooler people and get really excited about these people that they never have seen before.

plus, if you are hip to the fact of the joes and daniels and styles, then why not watch to just see them? after all, that is why i'll watch; to see a company who has enough of a perspective to look at people to sign whom i'd wanna see, and to have some people i wanna see already on the roster.
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#20 Posted on 28.9.05 2143.02
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If somehow TNA survives the timeslot and pulls numbers similar to ECW on TNN, reduced slightly due to the boom period ending, prior to Heyman mentally throwing in the towel(the night Credible got the belt), they could be considered viable. If that were to occur, could the double tapings be a real danger for TNA? Depending upon contract status, Vince could poach guys just for the hell of it, and cause a Luger/Rude situation to occur for TNA.
And, they need to hit the ground running. If they misjudge Jarrett/Nash, they could put themselves behind the 8-ball out of the gate, and TNA on Spike could last about as long as RollerJam and Rock 'n Bowl on TNN. There is no 5 year contract like Vince had to protect him even when the ratings dropped. And, there is no audience following from USA like Vince had. As for other shows on Spike bringing viewers to TNA: Except for the ultimate fighting show, what shows would that be? Godfather movies? Star Trek? CSI reruns?

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