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#1 Posted on 10.9.05 1706.05
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Is it too early to say that the Irish are back? Two big road wins to start off the year, the first time the Irish have done this since Knute Rockne was coach.

They have a godawful schedule, if they can get a bit of luck down the way, ND might be back in the short list for national champions.
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#2 Posted on 10.9.05 1748.50
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If they had next season's schedule, they would be in much better shape. The optimist viewpoint: Beat Michigan State at home, go to Washington and win, and somehow survive on Saturday night against Purdue. That means 5-0 with a week off before playing USC. Build the Trojan Horse from '77, hope for the worst weather imaginable and hope to get lucky. If somehow they get past USC, they get a revenge game against BYU at home. They then get a week off before playing a Top 5 team in Tennessee at home. Things break right, they win that game, they then get Navy at home, Syracuse at home, and Stanford on the road. Now, they have beaten Navy every year since '63, but Navy has played them extremely tough in South Bend for the last 8 years. Under the scenario where they would get to Navy unbeaten, they would be ripe for a letdown game.
Now, have I deluded myself into thinking the Irish are back and payback is on the way for USC? Sure. I mean, I thought the only chance they had against Michigan was to get the game into the high 30's and hope for a break, so, if they can keep Michigan out of the end zone in Ann Arbor for 55 minutes, anything is possible.
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#3 Posted on 10.9.05 2244.55
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I really haven't seen anything to make me believe Notre Dame is a legitimate threat.

They beat Pittsburgh, but as we've now seen, Pittsburgh isn't as good as everyone thought they were.

Today, ND beat a Michigan team that, as far as I'm concerned, proved that Michigan and Chad Henne are vastly overrated more than it proved that Notre Dame is anything special.
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#4 Posted on 10.9.05 2247.19
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Aren't they automatically given a BCS berth at a certain number of wins? If it's eight, I can see it. Ten might be problematic, but they'll be in the mix unless two teams rudely eject them.
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#5 Posted on 10.9.05 2255.34
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It might still be a little early, but they sure look damn good so far. I dread seeing my Vols have to make the trip to South Bend this year.
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#6 Posted on 11.9.05 0053.32
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The Notre Dame BCS rule is
- ND can get an automatic birth into the BCS with 9 wins
- but only if another non-BCS team has already qualified for one of the at large spots.


For ND to get this bonus, they'd have to get 9 wins without being ranked high enough in the BCS (which seems unlikely how quickly people are to pat them on the back for 2 wins) and someone like Utah, Fresno State, or Army would have to clinch a birth. It's a highly unlikely set of events (though those kind of things seems to be happening with the BCS.)

I don't know if this was confirmed as still in for the new format that starts Next Year.
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#7 Posted on 11.9.05 0057.29
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    Originally posted by drjayphd
    Aren't they automatically given a BCS berth at a certain number of wins? If it's eight, I can see it. Ten might be problematic, but they'll be in the mix unless two teams rudely eject them.

I don't think that there's any connection to wins. If they're in the Final BCS top 8, they get a berth. If they're in the Final BCS top 12, they're "considered," and it would shock me if they didn't get one of the two at-larges.
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#8 Posted on 11.9.05 0152.51
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Well all the sites say,

1) If a non-BCS school finishes in the Top 6,
then Notre Dame is guaranteed of being selected as long as they
A) have 9 wins (which is what you need to be BCS eligible) or B) are in the Top 10 of the BCS rankings.

So if Notre Dame would have had either of those happen last year, they would have been in (because Utah was), and Texas would have been on the outside looking in.

That rule is switching to the Top 12 for the bowl games after the 2006 regular season. I haven't heard any word on if Notre Dame still gets that special treatment.
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#9 Posted on 13.9.05 1204.04
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As a life-long Irish fan, I'd love to say I think they're back. But frankly even I find it ludicrous that they're number 10 in the polls after two early wins, even if those wins were against Pitt and Michigan.

I think Notre Dame is certainly on the right track and the Charlie Weis hiring was brilliant, but I expect we'll see the team struggle a little more past the midpoint of the season when they're playing teams that are as confident and well-prepared as they are.

I am definitely looking forward to the next few years of Notre Dame fandom, though...
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