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#1 Posted on 16.8.05 2020.10
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Okay, here's the deal- I'm writing a book called "101 Most Shocking Pro Wrestling Moments," a take-off of E!'s "101 Most Shocking Celeb Moments" or whatever. I've contacted ECW Press (the publisher of "Wrestlecrap" and "Death of WCW" books) and they are interested.

So I've contacted a few wrestlers, hoping to get their comments on some moments (not necessarily the ones involved), to add something different to the book that people on the internet wouldn't already know about. If anyone has any "inside" contacts or knows anyone in the business that would help me out, shoot me a PM.

As for the 101 moments themselves- I've got them pared down and ranked. What I'm looking for from the W's here is suggestions on moments I may have overlooked and aren't in the countdown, or ones you think I terribly overrated/underrated. I'm not looking for someone to say "oh, number 41 should move up a spot or two" or things like that. Just ones that I may have missed or didn't do enough/did too much justice too. Without further ado, here is my (tentative) list:

1.) Owen Hart dies on live PPV
2.) WWF buys WCW
3.) Vince Screws Bret
4.) Hogan Turns Heel, Creates NWO
5.) Jesse Ventura, Minnesota Governor
6.) WCW Positions Nitro Opposite RAW
7.) Vince Steroid Trial
8.) Scott Hall Debuts In WCW As "Outsider"
9.) WCW Announcers Give Away RAW Results on Nitro
10.) Pillman Pulls Gun on Austin on RAW
11.) Eric Bischoff, RAW GM
12.) RAW/Nitro Simulcast
13.) Lawler Appears on ECW Card
14.) Rick Rude Appears on RAW and Nitro on Same Night
15.) ECW Invades WWF
16.) Mick Foley Falls Off, Thru Cell
17.) Madusa Tosses WWF Women's Title in Trash Can on Nitro
18.) Brian Pillman Dies Hours Before WWF PPV
19.) "The Radicals" Debut on RAW
20.) DX Invades Nitro
21.) McMahon Creates XFL
22.) Schultz Punches Stossel on 20/20
23.) New Jack Slices 17-Year Old on ECW Card- Lawsuit Ensues
24.) Kaufman Goes on Tirade Against Lawler on Letterman
25.) Brock Lesnar Quits WWE
26.) Lawrence Taylor Fights Bigelow at WrestleMania
27.) Luger Shows Up on First Nitro
28.) Hogan Challenges Yoko, Minutes After Beating Hart; Hogan Wins Title
29.) Droz Paralyzed in Match With D-Lo
30.) New Diesel and Ramon Debut
31.) Pillman- "I Quit, Bookerman"
32.) Shawn Michaels "Collapses" on RAW
33.) Bagwell Injures Neck on Live TV vs. Rick Steiner
34.) Hogan on Arsenio: "I Do Not Use Steroids"
35.) Kaufman "Breaks Neck" at Hands of Lawler
36.) Liger Announces he has Brain Tumor
37.) Michaels Attacked by Marines in Syracuse
38.) Rob Feinstein- Pedophile
39.) Douglas Breaks Pit Bull I's Neck on ECW Card
40.) Miss Kitty Bares Breasts on PPV
41.) Michaels Loses Smile, Forfeits Title
42.) Sid/Arn Stabbing Incident
43.) Wrestlemania III Draws 93,000 Announced at Silverdome
44.) Crush Arrested on Drug Charges
45.) Triple H-Kane Necrophilia Angle
46.) Funk Tosses Flaming Towel into ECW Arena Crowd; Panic Ensues
47.) Patterson, Garvin Resign Amid Sexual Misconduct Charges
48.) Bret, Shawn Locker-Room Scuffle
49.) Crash Holly Dies
50.) Foley Autobiography Hits #1 on Best-Seller List
51.) Flair Suffers Broken Neck in '75 Plane Crash
52.) The Clique Say Goodbye at MSG
53.) Beefcake Parasailing Accident
54.) Sid Squeege Incident
55.) Flair Has "Heart Attack" On Nitro
56.) 1-2-3 Kid Upsets Ramon
57.) 43 Year-Old Backlund Wins World Title
58.) Brody Stabbed to Death in Locker Room
59.) Horowitz Upsets Skip
60.) Tank to Big Al: "I Could Fuckin' Kill You" On PPV
61.) Jake Shows Up Drunk to Heroes Of Wrestling PPV
62.) ECW Added to WCW Invasion Angle
63.) Tyson Scuffles With Austin on RAW
64.) 190,000 Show Up for New Japan in North Korea
65.) Goldberg Win Streak
66.) Funk Tells Fans to Throw Chairs into Ring in ECW
67.) Skaaland Throws in Towel, Costs Backlund Title
68.) Shockmaster Trips, Falls in Debut
69.) Bigelow, Taz Fall Thru Ring During Match
70.) Vince is Greater Power
71.) Death of Curt Hennig
72.) Nash Fingerpoke of Doom
73.) Vader, Orndorff Locker Room Brawl
74.) Sable Sues WWF
75.) "Billionaire Ted" Skits
76.) Duggan, Sheik Arrested For Drugs
77.) Crowd Turns on Brock/Goldberg Match at WrestleManiaXX
78.) Bart Knocks Out Dr. Death in Brawl-For-All
79.) Beaver Cleavage Denounces Gimmick On-Air
80.) Luger Slams Yoko on U.S.S. Intrepid
81.) Deaths of Adonis, Kelly, McKigney in Car Accident
82.) Piper Breaks Coconut Over Snuka's Head
83.) Funk, Foley Pushed off Stage in Dumpster by N.A.O.
84.) Vader Pins Inoki, Causes Riot in Japan
85.) Mark Henry- Meet Chyna's Friend
86.) Pete Rose Inducted into WWE H.O.F.
87.) Death of British Bulldog
88.) Chuck Austin Sues WWF For Injuries in Match with Rockers
89.) Austin Walks out on WWE
90.) Sid Breaks Leg on PPV
91.) Diesel Beats Backlund in Seven Seconds For Title
92.) Piper Returns to WWE in 2003
93.) WWE Wrestler (Taz) Beats WCW Wrestler (Awesome) in ECW ring
94.) Austin Beats Debra....Literally
95.) ECW/XPW Brawl Outside Bingo Hall
96.) Jericho Debuts on RAW
97.) Mankind Wins Title on Halftime Heat
98.) Death of Elizabeth at Luger's House
99.) Arrest of Patera/Saito
100.) Nash Uses Rey As Lawn Dart
101.) Austin To Roberts at K.O.R.: "Austin 3:16 Says I just Whooped Your Ass"

Others that just missed the cut:
-Sandman's Son Turns, Aligns with Raven
-Jake Roberts Appears on RAW in '05
-Russo Shoots on Hogan at Bash
-Watts Bans Top Rope Moves in WCW
-Matt/Edge/Lita Saga.

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#2 Posted on 16.8.05 2037.02
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I went through it a couple of times, and I couldn't see the name change from WWF to WWE, which was a huge deal at the time.
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#3 Posted on 16.8.05 2050.10
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Looks cool. I may be missing it on the list, but I think that Vince Mcmahon (and/or Vince Russo and/or David Arquette) as World Heavyweight Champion might be a good addition. Also, you don't have anything on the Invasion though I guess you might be putting that under #2. And not to pick nits, but wasn't the Pillman quote "I respect you, Bookerman"? Hope this works out for you.
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#4 Posted on 16.8.05 2111.25
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Here's what I'd add:

* Hogan leaves the WWF (1993) and/or Hogan signs with WCW (1994)
* Warrior walks out on the WWF following SummerSlam '91
* Ric Flair leaves WCW in 1991 (NWA belt appears on WWF TV)

I know there's more somewhere, but it's always easy to miss a few.

I'd definitely rank these above "Vince is the Greater Power". Especially since Bischoff exposed that earlier on Nitro. :)

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#5 Posted on 16.8.05 2120.59
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Didnt #42 (Sid/Arn Stabbing Incident) and #54 (Sid Squeege Incident) both arise from the same fight?
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#6 Posted on 16.8.05 2128.22
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    Originally posted by DJ FrostyFreeze
    Didnt #42 (Sid/Arn Stabbing Incident) and #54 (Sid Squeege Incident) both arise from the same fight?


Don't think so; I believe the squeegee was in a fight with Pillman.
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#7 Posted on 16.8.05 2138.04
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Magnum T.A. car crash causing Nikita Koloff face turn and a complete reshuffling of Crockett's booking.
Southwest Championship Wrestling fucking up the USA time slot, allowing Vince to grab the spot and go national.
Briscos sell out to Vince, Vince gets TBS time slot.
Ted Turner buys Jim Crockett Promotions, causing Vince to face a challenge from someone with deeper pockets than his.
David Von Erich dies leading to Kerry Von Erich winning NWA Title.
Death of Gino Hernandez days after the Chris Adams Blinding Angle.
Kerry Von Erich motorcycle crash.
Jake Roberts showing up drunk anyplace can't qualify as shocking. Jake Roberts showing up sober would be shocking.
The top is heavy on Brian Pillman moments.
Ricky Steamboat arrives as Eddie Gilbert's partner, leading to Flair/Steamboat classic series.
And, Vince's "Shades of Gray" speech, which was the signal that things were changing.

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#8 Posted on 16.8.05 2139.41
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The moments SLOKAZOID mentioned should be put in the list, replacing perhaps 21, 70 (and some other that maybe isnt too shocking)

Good luck with the book, if it goes well Ill definitely buy a copy.
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#9 Posted on 16.8.05 2147.06
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I dont think I saw Bischoff joins WWE or Bret and Vince reconcile to work on DVD. Those seem pretty significant to me. Also the fans turning on Rock at Wm18 and siding with Hogan was pretty shocking (even the announcers werent sure how to react). Ric Flair showing up on WWF tv with the World title was pretty shocking. Jerry Lawler quitting WWE was shocking too after all those years, just to show Kitty his support. Even though Owen was pretty tragic, IMO, Id say Hogan going heel was the most shcoking thing ever in wrestling, measured by its long term impact.
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#10 Posted on 16.8.05 2154.52
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Some of the things on the list I wouldn't really describe as "shocking" at all, and some are just really bizarre choices either in their placing or just being there altogether.


    38.) Rob Feinstein- Pedophile

That shouldn't be anywhere near the list. In the grand scheme of things and when you consider the numerous scandals in wrestling over the years, the promoter of a small time Indy promotion getting caught chatting up a fake kid on the 'net is in no way the 38th most shocking moment in history.


    47.) Patterson, Garvin Resign Amid Sexual Misconduct Charges

I've no idea why you'd list Feinstein above this since this was national news at the time. I'd definitely have this in the top 20.

I'd say all of these need to be either much lower or off the list altogether:
28.) Hogan Challenges Yoko, Minutes After Beating Hart; Hogan Wins Title
30.) New Diesel and Ramon Debut
38.) Rob Feinstein- Pedophile
44.) Crush Arrested on Drug Charges
49.) Crash Holly Dies
54.) Sid Squeege Incident
60.) Tank to Big Al: "I Could Fuckin' Kill You" On PPV

And all of these need to be higher:
52.) The Clique Say Goodbye at MSG
63.) Tyson Scuffles With Austin on RAW
82.) Piper Breaks Coconut Over Snuka's Head
89.) Austin Walks out on WWE
90.) Sid Breaks Leg on PPV
91.) Diesel Beats Backlund in Seven Seconds For Title
93.) WWE Wrestler (Taz) Beats WCW Wrestler (Awesome) in ECW ring
98.) Death of Elizabeth at Luger's House
101.) Austin To Roberts at K.O.R.: "Austin 3:16 Says I just Whooped Your Ass"

Turner buying out Crocket, Flair leaving WCW and Hogan joining WCW all definitely need to be on that list before a lot of those choices. If you're going for angles I'd have The Rock's heel turn at Survivor Series 98 and Austin's at WM 17 too.
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#11 Posted on 16.8.05 2159.29
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The Ox Baker/Ernie Ladd riot in Cleveland
The Horsemen breaking Dusty's arm in the parking lot
Eddie Gilbert hitting Lawler with a car
Dirty White Boy hangs Tom Pritchard in angle in Continental
Terry Funk attacks Ric Flair after Steamboat title match
Scott McGhee pins World Champion Ric Flair on TV
Mulkeys win a match
Funk vs. Lawler in empty arena match
Snuka misses top-of-cage splash in Backlund match
Freebirds piledrive Ted DiBiase into hospital

and how can you not have
BRUISER BRODY STABBED TO DEATH BY WRESTLER IN LOCKER ROOM IN THE TOP FIVE?

Shouldn't be on list at all, numbers:
9, 17, 21, 26, 34, 44, 56, 60, 61, 63, 64, 74, 77, 79, 83, 85, 86, 96 and 99.
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#12 Posted on 16.8.05 2236.07
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    Originally posted by meaty_buys
    I dont think I saw Bischoff joins WWE


11.) Eric Bischoff, RAW GM


I think maybe 2.) WWF buys WCW and 12.) RAW/Nitro Simulcast should be grouped together ?


Some moments I thought of:

-Goldberg nearly severs his arm when he punches it through the window of a limo on live television.

-The Billy & Chuck wedding

-The introduction of the "mentally challenged wrestler" Eugene

-Mae Young gives birth to a hand

-What about the whole Hassan fiasco ?

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#13 Posted on 16.8.05 2240.38
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#2 & 12 appear to be the same story to me as well (How do you tell 12 without telling 2?)

I think "Russo calls Hogan for using his creative control during a PPV" should definitely make the cut, and I would have it at least in the upper half, probably around #20.

"Brock quits" is too high, I imagine especially in light of his apparent return

#49 "Crash Holly"? I don't think he was with the E when he died - how is he different from any number of OD's - and above both #71 Curt Hennig and #87 British Bulldog (who were bigger stars)? And if you want a shocking wrestling death, how about Dino Bravo being a victim of a gangland hit? (Cigarette trafficking, I think?)

Instead of "Vince is Greater Power" (that was more let-down than shocking), how about "Vince breaks father's gentleman's agreement, goes national, destroys territory system"?

And no Andre? How about "Andre turns on Hogan, demands title shot"? Also from that era: "Hogan loses title because of evil twin referee"?

I would also suggest Flair's "Abuse of Power" Nitro promo from Greensboro, NC - and the Bret/Austin "Double Turn" match

Also seconds for "David Arquette, WCW Champion", "Ric Flair, REAL World's Champion", and "Magnum TA career-ending accident", also for "Billy and Chuck wedding", although I would play up the Bischoff disguise angle no one saw coming.
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#14 Posted on 16.8.05 2246.57
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Mae Young gives birth to a hand.
Brock Lesnar Shooting star press at WMXIX.
Matt Hardy returns to Raw.
Ring collapses during Brock/Big Show match on Smackdown.
NWO comes to WWE.
Plane ride from hell.
Eric Bishoff reveals himself at Billy/Chuck wedding.
Batista/Cena throw themselves out of the Rumble accidentally.
John Cena gets drafted to Raw as WWE Champion.
Muhammad Hassan terrosist angle.
Shawn Michaels says ''Theres the most expensive piece of luggage right there'' to Sid on live PPV.
Austin costs Bret the title one night after winning it.
HBK turns on Hulk Hogan.
Chris Jericho becomes Undisputed Champion.
Lights go out at In Your House.

If I think of more ill add on.

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#15 Posted on 16.8.05 2306.37
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How about these?

- Sting/Hogan/Bret/Nick Patrick Starrcade debacle
- Kurt Angle's twin brother interferes in Undertaker/Angle-match
- Kurt Angle unsuccessfully sends Shane-o-Mac through glass with two suplexes
- there's got to be a fireball in there somewhere, a la Skandar Akbar/Iceman Parsons
- Tommy Rich/Buzz Sawyer at the Omni
- Rock hits Mick Foley with 11 straight chairshots
- Kevin Sullivan/Prince of Darkness era
- Tommy Dreamer's fingers broken by Raven
- Sandman's son is possessed by Raven
- Raven crucified on TV, or Stone Cold "symbolified"
- Nash powerbombs Bischoff off stage
- Michaels KO'd by Owen Hart enziguri
- Owen paralyzes Stone Cold, Stone Cold finishes match

(and a couple of my childhood memories)
- MegaPowers unite for first time on SNME
- Mr. Fuji tosses salt in Rick Martel's eyes
- Greg Valentine suplexes Pedro Morales on concrete

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#16 Posted on 16.8.05 2321.18
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    Originally posted by Eddie Famous

    and how can you not have
    BRUISER BRODY STABBED TO DEATH BY WRESTLER IN LOCKER ROOM IN THE TOP FIVE?


Of all the things people replying to this thread have mentioned, that's the one item that I'm absolutely one hundred percent in agreement on. That incident is the stuff of legend, especially since officially the case remains unsolved and nobody was ever punished for it, and considering that Brody was a fairly big star at one point.

Don't forget either that just because a moment is supposed to be shocking in terms of storyline doesn't make it an actual "shocking" moment. For example, Cena jumping to RAW wasn't all that shocking since it was widely reported that they were going to switch Cena and Batista. Also, there are some moments that are so incredibly stupid (such as Mae Young giving birth to a hand on live TV) that you can't even really include them. Sure, we were all dumbfounded, but mostly because it was so idiotic. That's something RD Reynolds covered in his Wrestlecrap book, which is where it belongs. In the case of this book you're writing, it should be about incidents that truly rocked the industry (and its fanbase).

I'm surprised nobody's brought up Akira Maeda shooting on Andre. I'm not quite sure if it belongs on the list, but it was kind of a big deal at the time.

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#17 Posted on 16.8.05 2343.56
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Ron Simmons becomes first black WCW World Champion.
Vince mortgages the future of the WWF with Wrestlemania.
Vince testifies that Pro Wrestling is entertainment and not sport.
The Zahorian/McMahon steroid trial.
Muhammed Ali vs Antonio Inoki in Boxer vs Wrestler match.
WWE goes to war torn Iraq to entertain the troops.
Antonio Inoki gets elected to Japanese Senate.
Rock has highest ratings of SNL in years.
WWE at the national conventions in connection with Smackdown Your Vote.
Vince sells stock in company.


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#18 Posted on 17.8.05 0004.12
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This is becoming an awful lot like a list thread.
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#19 Posted on 17.8.05 0010.49
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These should be divided into works and shoots as MArshall pointed out in his Cena example.

Not that I support a list thread or anything...
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#20 Posted on 17.8.05 0011.42
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I've cleared it with CRZ.
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