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#21 Posted on 15.7.05 1528.05
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    Originally posted by cranlsn
    Is there any content that I would need to be worried about in Fantastic 4 for either of them?


I don't remember any harsh language in it and the violence was rather comic book like, so there's nothing there to be worried about either. About the worst thing was Jessica Alba's skin tight outfit, but I'm guessing YOU'LL be the only one really thinking about that.

Yes, this was a good 'family film'.

Just remind the kids NOT to set themselves on fire cause the guy in the movie thought it was cool.
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#22 Posted on 15.7.05 1537.36
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    Originally posted by Cerebus
      Originally posted by cranlsn
      Is there any content that I would need to be worried about in Fantastic 4 for either of them?


    I don't remember any harsh language in it and the violence was rather comic book like, so there's nothing there to be worried about either. About the worst thing was Jessica Alba's skin tight outfit, but I'm guessing YOU'LL be the only one really thinking about that.

    Yes, this was a good 'family film'.

    Just remind the kids NOT to set themselves on fire cause the guy in the movie thought it was cool.


When I saw the commercial for the Thing hands, and the Human Torch mask & gloves, all I could think of was Dan Akroyd's old SNL skit with the "Human Torch Kit" consisting of a pack of matches and gasoline.

Thanks for the update on the content...looks like that might be our next outing. The last one was Herbie: Fully Loaded, which actually nowhere near as bad as I was expecting going in.
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#23 Posted on 16.7.05 0750.19
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it was just ok, not nearly as good as Batman Beyond or the Incredibles. The Invisible Girl isn't this scientist they made her out to be. She's too pretty to be smart. Mr. Fantastic was not at all likeable.

Dr. Doom should've carried the movie, instead he was sometimes good, sometimes very bad, mostly undecided. His Latverian accent comes and goes. (In the comics, he was a benevolent dictator, his people liked him.) He helps cure the Thing and then attacks him right after that. Then the Thing, also no scientist, manages to reverse the cosmic ray machine himself to give him back his powers.

It was a summer mindless action movie. The next one will be much better now that they got passed the orgin story.
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#24 Posted on 16.7.05 0959.55
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I haven't seen the movie yet, but isn't the Thing supposed to be a scientist? Him and Reed planned the space mission that gave them their powers, right?
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#25 Posted on 16.7.05 1328.01
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    Originally posted by Tenken347
    I haven't seen the movie yet, but isn't the Thing supposed to be a scientist? Him and Reed planned the space mission that gave them their powers, right?


The original concept was that Reed was the smart one who designed a space ship to go to Mars, Sue was his actress/girlfriend because ALL brainy scientists in comics have beautiful actress girlfriends, Ben was a hired pilot, and Johnny was just there because he was Sue's kid brother. Reed wanted to go to Mars, incase you were wondering, because he was afraid the Russians were gonna beat us there. This was the early 1960's kids, things were really goofy back then.

Of geeky note, they didn't actually get costumes till the third issue. Dr. Doom didn't come into play until issue #5, and one little known fact is that Lee and Kirby actually stole the idea for the team from DC's Justice League. (Look at the covers of Fantastic Four #1 and Brave And The Bold #28 and you'll see what I mean.)
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#26 Posted on 17.7.05 0155.11
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I thought it was pretty good. A little slapshod and short on the story elements, but other than that, pretty good.

On the "family film" note:

Some of the parents in the theater with me were a little squidgy when Doom blew a hole through the banker. That was the only scene really, however.
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#27 Posted on 18.7.05 0519.28
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I actually saw this opening night, I loved it as did my kid. I think they struck just the right "FF is a family" tone which is the biggest thing I got from the comics. It was cheesy at parts but then again so was Spiderman.

One thing I really wish is that they could somehow acknowledge in these new Marvel films that the other Marvel superheroes exist. I really think it would help the suspension of disbelief and make the events in the film more believable. I dont need a cameo from Tobey Mcguire or anything. But I think it would be cool if somewhere in the film they could mention Spiderman or the Mutants or even the Daily Bugle.

But I know this cant happen because Marvel has all their comic franchises farmed out to different studios.
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#28 Posted on 18.7.05 1127.01
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We normally don't take our 5 year old to PG-13 movies but we took him yesterday and he was fine. He was a little scared of some of the space and Dr. Doom scenes though.

I liked it. I read the comics in the 80's and remember thinking--they could never do a movie about them -the special effects would be too difficult. They did the best they could with The Thing, but it often looked more like a guy in a foam rubber suit than a body full of rocks.
Reed Richards wasn't very likeable, but never really was in the comics either. (Who names their child Ioan?)
I don't know if Jessica Alba was right for the part or not, but she sure looked cute trying to play brainy scientist. Evans was perfect for the role.

I just wish it didn't end when it did. It felt like things were finally getting good and picking up when the credits rolled. Like X-Men, it just took too long to explain the background and origin of everyone.

The critics were pretty harsh on this (www.rottentomatoes.com). I just think everyone is burned out on superhero movies now (Spiderman, X-Men, Hulk, Daredevil, Batman, Incredibles........) This movie might have been better received if it came out a few years before the onslaught of similar movies......
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#29 Posted on 18.7.05 1800.27
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The Doom overhaul and lack of a true showdown in the end is the only real flaws I can find.

After all the bad press this was actually pretty good. The characterizations were dead on, Stan as Lumpkin was genius, even Jessica Alba did alright.
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#30 Posted on 19.7.05 2302.32
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    Originally posted by SOK
    I saw this movie today...it wasn't BAD...


Oh yes it was. Am I the only one that thought this movie was God-Awful?

1. Effects - OK, but certainly not worthy of a 100 million summer blockbuster. The Brooklyn Bridge scene was cool.

2. Plot - did anyone really follow this? I could not for the life of me figure out the deal with Doom's company, or even what the hell he was after. And at the end, when it was (kind of) revealed he wanted the accident to happen and get mutated? Huh? And he used the machine on himself at the end? Huh? How? Why?

3. Characters. Doom sucked. Not just with the stupid organic electric metal thing, as an evil mastermind in general. Evil masterminds don't sweat bankers, for starters. Storm and Thing were OK (mostly Storm, the only good part of the movie). Invisible Girl, Reed, and their whole "romance" just took up screen time. I thought Jeff Goldblum was playing Reed for the first half-hour of the film.

In short, I'm glad I snuck into this movie after seeing "The Wedding Crashers"
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#31 Posted on 20.7.05 0049.44
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To each their own, Moe.

For everyone who loves a movie like this, there's someone who hates it. Same goes with shows like the Simpsons (which I think is terrible) and Doc (which I adore).

To me, F4 wasn't bad. It was worth the discount matinee price I paid to see it, but I would have felt ripped off if I paid $13 during the expensive showings.
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#32 Posted on 20.7.05 1718.08
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With over $100 million in the first two weeks, its sure to be back for at least two more installments. And since Dr. Doom is THE major villian--a short fight in this film gives us a sequel with nothing more than revenge plot on turbo. FF does not need the "new Villian every movie" formula to work, IMO.
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