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#1 Posted on 28.6.05 1450.39
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....and the first shot across the bow gets fired by the Blazers and Jazz, as expected...and man oh man, even Blazers GM John Nash is capable of committing a felony:

Jazz get: #3 pick,
Blazers get: #6, #27 and a 2006 1st rounder (formerly Detroit's 1st rounder from the Carlos Arroyo trade).

Plus most likely the player Portland was going to take at #3 (Greene) will still be there at #6.

(edited by Blanket Jackson on 28.6.05 1556)
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#2 Posted on 28.6.05 1512.51
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I don't get thsi trade by Utah. Why throw in the #1 NEXT year in additon to the #6 and the #27 this year? Three #1 picks to move up three spots. Strange. But since it is with Portland, I am sure they will fuck thos epicks up anyway.

Sloane must have his eye on someone. I am guessing Deron Williams.
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#3 Posted on 28.6.05 1518.47
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Why throw in the #1 NEXT year in additon to the #6 and the #27 this year? Three #1 picks to move up three spots.

Well, it was Detroit's #1 pick originally, so it's essentially a #3 for a #6 and two #27s. One less first-round pick is one less guaranteed contract to give out, and if next year's draft class (minus high schoolers) is not deep the #27 pick could be as iffy as a mid-sceond-rounder.
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#4 Posted on 28.6.05 1549.13
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    Originally posted by Wpob
    Sloane must have his eye on someone. I am guessing Deron Williams.

Chris Paul.

(edited by whatever on 28.6.05 1649)
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#5 Posted on 28.6.05 1614.40
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    Originally posted by whatever
      Originally posted by Wpob
      Sloane must have his eye on someone. I am guessing Deron Williams.

    Chris Paul.

    (edited by whatever on 28.6.05 1649)


Yup. Green could be gone by the 6th pick, so I could see Portland taking Frye at #6 if that happened. They can still get a decent 2/3 player at #27 (Gomes, Garcia).

(edited by BOSsportsfan34 on 28.6.05 1719)
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#6 Posted on 28.6.05 1859.05
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    Originally posted by myself in the Ferry in as GM thread
    The current rumoring is that Jiri Welsch is available for trade to get a second-round pick tonight.

And so it *almost* happens.
Click Here (sports.yahoo.com)

Jiri Welsch to the Bucks for a 2006 second-round pick. Well poop, I was hoping for a pick this year. Eh, no big loss either way.

(edited by whatever on 28.6.05 2000)
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#7 Posted on 28.6.05 1958.59
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They've got ESPN's news guys on the public address system, which is one of the worst ideas I've ever seen. Particularly when you're talking about Stephen A. Smith and he's criticizing team's draft decisions, and "why didn't team x select player y, who won a national championship with North Carolina last year?" While all the while, player y is sitting in a chair with his hands covering his face praying to God that someone will draft him in the first round.

Boneheaded, boneheaded move by ESPN. Smacks far too much of a reality show for me. On the other hand, if player y fell through a trap door when he didn't get drafted, kind of a Russian Roulette sort of thing, it'd be more interesting. (So you can blame me when that actually happens. See, I aim to please.)
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#8 Posted on 28.6.05 2141.42
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Charlie Villanueva?

Rob Babcock, you are a moron.
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#9 Posted on 28.6.05 2154.01
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    Originally posted by Big Bad
    Charlie Villanueva?

    Rob Babcock, you are a moron.








If Villanueva doesn't have his head up his ass, he has the ability to be the best player taken in the draft.
Lakers take a high school center? No wonder they sent Jackson out to Montana for the draft. And, since it is late June, is it really safe for Jim Gray to let Kobe out of his sight? Last time Kobe didn't have Jimmy around, he went astray.
Green drops to the Celtics at 18? If everything turns out perfectly, they have 2 young players in Jefferson and Green to build around. Now, time to dump salary cap burdens, bottom out, and when these guys are ready, have cap room to add quality players around them.
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#10 Posted on 29.6.05 0340.30
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After having arguably their best season in years, in which they nearly made the playoffs and actually managed to come out with a better record than the Lakers, the Clippers manage to screw up yet again by taking a no-name Russian over Granger and Green.

It's tough being a Clippers fan. Oh well. At least they're not as bad as the Raptors.
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#11 Posted on 29.6.05 0711.23
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OK, here are the selections:

    ROUND 1
    1 Milwaukee Bucks Andrew Bogut, Utah
    2 Atlanta Hawks Marvin Williams, North Carolina
    3 Utah Jazz Deron Williams, Illinois
    4 New Orleans Hornets Chris Paul, Wake Forest
    5 Charlotte Bobcats Raymond Felton, North Carolina
    6 Portland Trail Blazers Martell Webster, Seattle Prep HS
    7 Toronto Raptors Charlie Villanueva, Connecticut
    8 New York Knicks Channing Frye, Arizona
    9 Golden State Warriors Ike Diogu, Arizona State
    10 LA Lakers Andrew Bynum, St. Joseph (NJ) HS
    11 Orlando Magic Fran Vazquez, Spain
    12 LA Clippers Yaroslav Korolev, CSKA Moscow
    13 Charlotte Bobcats Sean May, North Carolina
    14 Minnesota Timberwolves Rashad McCants, North Carolina
    15 New Jersey Nets Antoine Wright, Texas A&M
    16 Toronto Raptors Joey Graham, Oklahoma State
    17 Indiana Pacers Danny Granger, New Mexico
    18 Boston Celtics Gerald Green, Gulf Shores Acad (TX)
    19 Memphis Grizzlies Hakim Warrick, Syracuse
    20 Denver Nuggets Julius Hodge, North Carolina State
    21 Phoenix Suns (to New York) Nate Robinson, Washington
    22 Denver Nuggets (to Portland) Jarrett Jack, Georgia Tech
    23 Sacramento Kings Francisco Garcia, Louisville
    24 Houston Rockets Luther Head, Illinois
    25 Seattle SuperSonics Johan Petro, France
    26 Detroit Pistons Jason Maxiell, Cincinnati
    27 Portland Trail Blazers (to Denver) Linas Kleiza, Missouri
    28 San Antonio Spurs Ian Mahinmi, STB Le Havre (France)
    29 Miami Heat Wayne Simien, Kansas
    30 New York Knicks David Lee, Florida


    ROUND 2
    31 Atlanta Hawks Salim Stoudamire, Arizona
    32 LA Clippers Daniel Ewing, Duke
    33 New Orleans Hornets Brandon Bass, LSU
    34 Utah Jazz C.J. Miles, Skyline H.S. (Tex)
    35 Portland Trail Blazers (to Denver) Ricky Sanchez, IMG Academy
    36 Milwaukee Bucks Ersan Ilyasova, Ulker Istanbul
    37 LA Lakers Ronny Turiaf, Gonzaga
    38 Orlando Magic Travis Diener, Marquette
    39 LA Lakers Von Wafer, Florida State
    40 Golden State Warriors Monta Ellis, Lanier H.S. (Miss.)
    41 Toronto Raptors Roko Ujic, KK Split (Croatia)
    42 Golden State Warriors Chris Taft, Pittsburgh
    43 New Jersey Nets Mile Ilic, BC Reflex (Serbia & Montenegro)
    44 Orlando Magic (to Cleveland) Martynas Andriuskevicius, Zalgiris (Lithuania)
    45 Philadelphia 76ers Louis Williams, South Gwinnett HS (Ga.)
    46 Indiana Pacers Erazem Lorbek, Climamio Bologna (Italy)
    47 Minnesota Timberwolves Bracey Wright, Indiana
    48 Seattle SuperSonics Mickael Gelabale, Real Madrid (Spain)
    49 Washington Wizards Andray Blatche, South Kent Prep (Conn.)
    50 Boston Celtics Ryan Gomes, Providence
    51 Utah Jazz Robert Whaley, Walsh University
    52 Denver Nuggets Axel Hervelle, Real Madrid (Spain)
    53 Boston Celtics Orien Green, La.-Lafayette
    54 New York Knicks (to Phoenix) Dijon Thompson, UCLA
    55 Seattle SuperSonics (to Memphis) Lawrence Roberts, Mississippi State
    56 Detroit Pistons Amir Johnson, Westchester H.S. (Calif.)
    57 Phoenix Suns (to Orlando) Marcin Gortat, RheinEnergie Koln (Germany)
    58 Toronto Raptors Uros Slokar, Snaidero Udine (Italy)
    59 Atlanta Hawks Cenk Akyol, Efes Pilsen (Turkey)
    60 Detroit Pistons Alex Acker, Eisenhower HS (Calif.)


1. The Bobcats are f'n lucky. They managed to get 2 guys from North Carolina. Since they're moving to a new arena I guess they want to put some asses in the seats.

2. Toronto's Rob Babcock is a total dumbass. Charlie Villanueva plays the same position Chris Bosh does and he picked this guy #7. Oy.

3. Boston cleaned up here. I'm amazed Gerald Green tumbled this far down the draft.

4. Hilarious moment of the draft: usually when the draft pick is selected, they walked on stage and wait for David Stern to greet them and shake his hand. When the Wolves drafted McCants, Stern was listening to Stephen A bash Rob Babcock or was asleep or something b/c McCants had to tap him on the shoulder to get his attention.
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#12 Posted on 29.6.05 1009.37
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Undoubtedly, the highlight was watching Chad Ford's head explode as he had to break down the picks. Anytime the draft analysis begins by slamming the #1 pick as a bad idea, it's only got to get better.

I thought Memphis did good to get Warrick; he has the potential to just take over games, plus it fills what will most likely be a hole for the team (Swift's leaving).
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#13 Posted on 29.6.05 1032.30
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Wayne Simien, for the role Miami needs him to play, is a nice draft pick for them. Laettner most likely will not be back and Simien is a guy who can hit the open 15-footer and crash the boards/box out. That's just fine by me.

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#14 Posted on 29.6.05 1223.07
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Wow, as an SEC fan I have to say that draft sucked for the SEC. Randolph Morris, Kelenna Azubuike, Matt Walsh, Anthony Roberson, Olu Famutimi, Kennedy Winston and Brandon Bass all left early and only Bass got drafted. And as a Gators fan I have to say this REALLY sucks. Obviously Lee was going to be gone cause he was a senior, and good riddance to Walsh, but Roberson carried us last year, we NEEDED him back with all the young players we have and now he's leaving, and it's all for nothing because he didn't get drafted. I know he's small, and not as good as someone like say Allen Iverson, but Earl Boykins plays a role on a team, why couldn't Anthony Roberson?
Hopefully this is just like another Gator, Udonis Haslem, who went undrafted but then proved himself overseas and got signed the next year.

Maybe while Roberson is overseas maybe he can say hi to Christian Drejer.
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#15 Posted on 29.6.05 1306.15
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    Originally posted by TheCow
    I thought Memphis did good to get Warrick; he has the potential to just take over games, plus it fills what will most likely be a hole for the team (Swift's leaving).

I thought they did as well- when the time came, I figured they'd do one of two things- take Warrick (the second Orange player they've drafted, Moten being the other back in the day); or take a center from overseas (because they had success with Gasol coming over from Europe; and they need a center with Wright probably not coming back- actually, even if he did, they'd probably need an upgrade).
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#16 Posted on 29.6.05 1346.05
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    Originally posted by Quezzy
    Wow, as an SEC fan I have to say that draft sucked for the SEC. Randolph Morris, Kelenna Azubuike, Matt Walsh, Anthony Roberson, Olu Famutimi, Kennedy Winston and Brandon Bass all left early and only Bass got drafted. And as a Gators fan I have to say this REALLY sucks. Obviously Lee was going to be gone cause he was a senior.


All I got to say is *F* those Knick fans that were booing the David Lee pick. Spike looked none too happy. I guarantee you they'll be pleasantly surprised when they see him play. They see him as just another white stiff, but he's a great athlete...He won the McDonalds dunk contest as a senior in high school.

I'm shocked nobody got Winston. I've heard his knee troubles have scared people away, but the kid is way too smooth to be playing in Europe or the NBDL. He'll get picked up and make some lucky team very happy.

I read a story about Matt Walsh and his family throwing some big party last night...inviting friends from all over the country. He was told that Miami would almost surely pick him with their late first round pick...I could hear the crickets chirping from here when the last pick was announced. How humiliating is that...




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#17 Posted on 29.6.05 1458.47
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    Originally posted by Quezzy
    Wow, as an SEC fan I have to say that draft sucked for the SEC. Randolph Morris, Kelenna Azubuike, Matt Walsh, Anthony Roberson, Olu Famutimi, Kennedy Winston and Brandon Bass all left early and only Bass got drafted. And as a Gators fan I have to say this REALLY sucks. Obviously Lee was going to be gone cause he was a senior, and good riddance to Walsh, but Roberson carried us last year, we NEEDED him back with all the young players we have and now he's leaving, and it's all for nothing because he didn't get drafted. I know he's small, and not as good as someone like say Allen Iverson, but Earl Boykins plays a role on a team, why couldn't Anthony Roberson?
    Hopefully this is just like another Gator, Udonis Haslem, who went undrafted but then proved himself overseas and got signed the next year.

    Maybe while Roberson is overseas maybe he can say hi to Christian Drejer.


As a UK fan I'm about devastated about losing 'Buike and Morris (though according to posts on a UK message board there is an NCAA loophole for guys without agents who are undrafted that leaves the door cracked for Morris).

But, Quezzy, as a UK fan I'm "happier" to be rid of Walsh than Roberson. Walsh always seemed to give us the greater match-up problems, and his play definitely helped propel you guys to the big win in the SEC tourney.

I completely agree with Lee - I think he'll be a fine NBA player.
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#18 Posted on 29.6.05 1510.20
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Great pickups for the Bobcats. Though with Paul, Felton, May, McCants, and Hodges there it shouldn't have been too hard to grab some ACC favorites. I'm not too sure about May in the NBA, but out of those last three, he's probably the best pick.

-Jag
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#19 Posted on 29.6.05 1518.07
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    Originally posted by Rudoublesedoublel
    As a UK fan I'm about devastated about losing 'Buike and Morris (though according to posts on a UK message board there is an NCAA loophole for guys without agents who are undrafted that leaves the door cracked for Morris


The question is...does Tubby let him come back considering the way Morris has handled this whole process?
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#20 Posted on 29.6.05 1627.08
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    Originally posted by chuckc14
      Originally posted by Rudoublesedoublel
      As a UK fan I'm about devastated about losing 'Buike and Morris (though according to posts on a UK message board there is an NCAA loophole for guys without agents who are undrafted that leaves the door cracked for Morris


    The question is...does Tubby let him come back considering the way Morris has handled this whole process?


There are supposedly reports that Tubby has already contacted Morris and that Morris has 3 days to enroll in summer classes. There are also reports that the staff is fed up with him and he isn't welcome back in Lexington. I get all of my UK info from a message board that has some fairly reliable (and connected) posters - but I simply have no clue with Morris. If I were in Tubby's shoes I would put it to a team vote, if the team didn't vote at least 80% to let him back, I wouldn't let him come back. Ultimately, I'd hate to make that decision.

I'm guessing that he'll probably try to latch on with an NBA summer league team, hit the NBDL and try to make a roster next year. But, I'm simply guessing here.
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