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#1 Posted on 6.6.05 2208.34
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The East Finals went to the last minute - as it should have. And an awesome series it was. Lineup time for (if you listen to some people) "the most boring NBA Finals ever".

Pistons - Spurs
PG: Billups - Parker
SG: Hamilton - Ginobili
SF: Prince - Bowen
PF: R.Wallace - Duncan
C: B.Wallace - Mohammed

This is way too hard to pick. Pistons a fluke? I don't think so. :)

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#2 Posted on 6.6.05 2216.59
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Well the Spurs obviously have a big advantage coming out of an easy western conf. finals. Of course the hope from Detroit is the old too rest-too rusty possibility.

The optimist in me sees Detroit outdo itself and go down 3-1 before winning the last 3 straight. Realistically I can see it all finally catching up to them and their weak bench as the Spurs take it in 6.
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#3 Posted on 6.6.05 2217.57
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I don't think the words most boring NBA Finals can ever be used unless someone has burned the tapes of the Seattle/Washington snooze-a-thons that were the nadir of the NBA in '78 and '79. On the end of the East Finals first: 6 point lead in your own building with under 7 to play, win the damn game.
Onto the Finals. Should be a highly competitive series between two teams that have the ability to score as well as the ability to shut the other team down. Before the playoffs I had Suns in 7 over the Pistons due to Larry Brown being distracted. Half right on teams, right on Larry Brown. If Duncan's ankles are healthy he's the difference maker. Spurs in a grueling 7 game series, with at least 5 of the 7 games being in doubt with under 30 seconds to go.
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#4 Posted on 6.6.05 2227.21
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    Originally posted by redsoxnation
    I don't think the words most boring NBA Finals can ever be used unless someone has burned the tapes of the Seattle/Washington snooze-a-thons that were the nadir of the NBA in '78 and '79. On the end of the East Finals first: 6 point lead in your own building with under 7 to play, win the damn game.
    Onto the Finals. Should be a highly competitive series between two teams that have the ability to score as well as the ability to shut the other team down. Before the playoffs I had Suns in 7 over the Pistons due to Larry Brown being distracted. Half right on teams, right on Larry Brown. If Duncan's ankles are healthy he's the difference maker. Spurs in a grueling 7 game series, with at least 5 of the 7 games being in doubt with under 30 seconds to go.


If someone didn't burn those tapes RSN, they should. Those years were the absolute lowest point in the NBA's history. Fortunately, Bird and Magic came into the league together the following year and pulled the league out of that mess.

As for this series, I'm going with the Spurs in 5. Besides their great defense, they showed they can adapt their offense to whatever it takes to win (as we saw in the WCF). As for Brown, what's the over/under on when he announces he's going to Cleveland after the last game of the finals is played? I say 2 days.
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#5 Posted on 7.6.05 0015.07
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Spurs in 5. That's my prediction
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#6 Posted on 7.6.05 0623.12
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    Originally posted by Packman V2
    Spurs in 5. That's my prediction


I'm just going to use this quote as a representative of my pick. While you older-timers may point to other NBA Finals of the past, I still have no desire to see this Pistons/Spurs series. ZZZZZZZZ.
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#7 Posted on 7.6.05 0652.53
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TV Executives are jumping for joy over the ratings bonanza this series will garner.....Larry Brown once cut Gregg Popovich when Popovich tried out for the Nuggets - Brown said it was a tough decision but he kept David Thompson instead.....I will be more than surprised if either team scores 100 points in a game during the finals - hell, I'll be surprised if either team scores 90 points in a game.....Spurs in 7
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#8 Posted on 7.6.05 0745.02
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Pistons in 4. Yes.
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#9 Posted on 7.6.05 0827.10
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Detroit will go to their patented Other Guys Defensive Scheme (as in: it's OK if the two stars get theirs as long as The Other Guys don't beat you) just like they did with the Lakers and with the Heat. It is imperative for the Spurs cast to do certain things. Parker needs to keep them honest by being able to score from the outside and not turn the ball over, Bowen needs to be able to win a track meet with Hamilton and Nazr needs to box out, clog the lane and keep the Detroit Bigs off the glass. And Duncan and Ginobili need to do a little bit of everything.

Meanwhile, Detroit may have just played 7 games, but they're nowhere near the walking MASH unit that Miami would have been in this series had they been able to score in the last 4 minutes. Plus they know how to beat teams with San Antonio's setup.

In the end, San Antonio having to pick their poison as to whether they want to be mismatched with Billups, Hamilton or Prince (since Bowen can't defend all three) and not being able to match Detroit's depth in the paint will ultimately be their downfall in this series. But that doesn't mean there won't be moments where Duncan beats them and/or Ginobili beats them plus gets enough help to make it interesting.

Pistons in 7.

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#10 Posted on 7.6.05 1440.23
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San Antonio has the X-Factor: Big Shot Bob Horry. I want to pick them in 4 due to the let down factor for the Piston in overcomign the Heat and the distraction with Larry Outta Town Brown, but I feel Detroit will take one game so Spurs in 5.

Since I was hoping for a Heat/Suns finals and the track meet that it would have been, I have to say I am none too interested in this series. I will check in from time to time, but my guess is I will watch the last 2 minutes of each game and that will be enough.

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#11 Posted on 8.6.05 1212.57
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I can't agree with the "this is boring" talk - if people didn't think the Pistons/Heat series was exciting, I can't help you. Some people may not like it if they aren't scoring 120 points a game, but doesn't bother me in the least.

People keep underestimating the Pistons, saying this one person will beat them or that one person will beat them. I think if it were that easy they would have been out against the Pacers, not to mention the Heat. They win because their main lineup are all great, solid players, instead of having one or two superstars and three ok-to-good starters.

Pistons were heavy underdogs last year and they killed the Lakers. This year they don't seem as overmatched in pregame hype, which likely means it'll be a lot closer...the Pistons seem to be lazy at times when they don't have their backs against the wall.

At least Larry Brown's brilliantly timed "Oh, by the way, I might be leaving next year" distraction seems to be overcome, which is nice.

Barring injury to any of their starters - a possibility since Detroit just had 6 and 7 game series - Detroit in 7.
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#12 Posted on 9.6.05 1842.06
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Spurs in 6. Unlike most people, I'm looking forward to this matchup. It'll be a far better Finals than Heat-Spurs.
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#13 Posted on 9.6.05 2038.26
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Game 1 is underway, before it goes any longer...anyone know the name of the song they played during the Spurs intro? I don't mean that techno song they play at every basketball game, I mean prior to that...the prog-metal sounding thing while they were showing the highlight video.

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#14 Posted on 9.6.05 2301.02
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Game 1: Spurs 84, Pistons 69

Balki... I mean, Manu Ginobili is friggin' awesome. Detroit's got to come up with an answer for him. Especially since the dominated the early parts of the game.

I love how Al Michaels and Hubie Brown were damn near begging people to appreciate the defensive struggle.

Michaels: "Teams like Phoenix and Dallas, they play basketball and it's a lot of fun. And then you have these guys..."

Real smooth, Al. Stick to football.
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#15 Posted on 9.6.05 2325.04
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I did appreciate the defensive struggle. I personally think lots of blocks and players working their butts off to get a basket is a whole lot more fun then consistently blown defensive assignments and players more concerned with the next time they're going to score then the player they're defending.

So, with that said, please God let Detroit lose.
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#16 Posted on 10.6.05 0942.36
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Did anybody else notice how few replays they showed last night? They had one replay (which they said wasn't even a good angle of it) of the blocking foul on Wallace, and didn't show a replay of Duncan's tip-in just off the rim in the first half. I'd think that they would have had plenty of cameras to catch all the action, but they kept showing players milling about while the clock was stopped.
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#17 Posted on 10.6.05 1413.17
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    Originally posted by Kawshen
    Michaels: "Teams like Phoenix and Dallas, they play basketball and it's a lot of fun. And then you have these guys..."

    Real smooth, Al. Stick to football.


Didn't take him long to get back to form. I would have thought with his crappy performance last year that they'd put someone else in the booth.
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#18 Posted on 10.6.05 1426.39
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Well, it was a total pendulum swing with Detroit controlling early before Manu Ginobili absolutely took over in the 4th. But I think this is just what Detroit needed, as now they'll know who to look out for.

With games 3, 4, and 5 in Detroit, I still call Pistons in six.
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#19 Posted on 10.6.05 1446.05
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    Originally posted by Kawshen
    Game 1: Spurs 84, Pistons 69

    Balki... I mean, Manu Ginobili is friggin' awesome. Detroit's got to come up with an answer for him. Especially since the dominated the early parts of the game.

    I love how Al Michaels and Hubie Brown were damn near begging people to appreciate the defensive struggle.

    Michaels: "Teams like Phoenix and Dallas, they play basketball and it's a lot of fun. And then you have these guys..."

    Real smooth, Al. Stick to football.


No doubt. If I hear Al say one more time, "And (insert Spur here) drives into the lane...no foul is called...and Detroit comes away with it" one more time, I'll fly to San Antonio and kill him myself.

I love Hubie, though. OK, so you love Hubie and you love his tremendous upside...

And I hate Ginobili. He's that guy you hate on the other team but would love to have on your team. He's got no outside shot whatsoever, but he's a friggin' beast in the lane. The guy just goes inside and says, "Either I'm gonna score or you're gonna get called for a foul - charging be damned." And he does.

Reminds me of when my buddy and I would play Nerf basketball when we were little. You know, you pretend to play fair at first, shooting jump shots over the other guy, but then eventually every time you just barge in and try to dunk it or lay it up while screaming "FOUL" and your friend is pulling you by the shirt and.... well that's what it reminded me of.
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#20 Posted on 10.6.05 1810.18
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    Originally posted by Reverend J Shaft
    Reminds me of when my buddy and I would play Nerf basketball when we were little. You know, you pretend to play fair at first, shooting jump shots over the other guy, but then eventually every time you just barge in and try to dunk it or lay it up while screaming "FOUL" and your friend is pulling you by the shirt and.... well that's what it reminded me of.

Don't forget the eventual unambiguous elbow to the face, followed by crappy little kid fighting, threats to never hang out together again... followed by resumption of the game the next day after sheepish non-apologies.

That said, thanks for mentioning nerf basketball. I think that might be the most apt description I've read for how Ginobili was playing. Just spot on. I was watching him last night and thinking, "This is friggin' nuts! How is he getting away with this?" And I'm rooting for San Antonio. But now I know what it was reminding me of. Kudos.
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