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#1 Posted on 27.5.05 0829.36
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And I was hoping that I was joking when talking about knife control
    Originally posted by the BBC, 5/26/2005

    Doctors' kitchen knives ban call
    A&E doctors are calling for a ban on long pointed kitchen knives to reduce deaths from stabbing.


    A team from West Middlesex University Hospital said violent crime is on the increase - and kitchen knives are used in as many as half of all stabbings.

    They argued many assaults are committed impulsively, prompted by alcohol and drugs, and a kitchen knife often makes an all too available weapon.

    The research is published in the British Medical Journal.

    The researchers said there was no reason for long pointed knives to be publicly available at all.

    They consulted 10 top chefs from around the UK, and found such knives have little practical value in the kitchen.

    None of the chefs felt such knives were essential, since the point of a short blade was just as useful when a sharp end was needed.

    The researchers said a short pointed knife may cause a substantial superficial wound if used in an assault - but is unlikely to penetrate to inner organs.
Because everybody knows that knife control will stop knife crime in Britain, much like gun control has stopped gun crime...

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#2 Posted on 27.5.05 0839.03
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They specifically linked this news item to domestic violence on the radio. While I would prefer that we educate our young males that carrying knives, guns and perpetrating acts of violence is not cool, I have no problems with this if it becomes law. It's hardly a huge infringement on our civil liberties, certainly no more than being required to wear the safety belt in the car (principles, I know). I don't see that it will do any harm, even though it will not eradicate the problem.
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#3 Posted on 27.5.05 0958.06
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    Originally posted by Jonny_English
    It's hardly a huge infringement on our civil liberties, certainly no more than being required to wear the safety belt in the car (principles, I know).


Now Jonny, it's bad enough that I have to read about proposed "knife control", but why'd you have to go get my blood boiling by bringing up seat-belt laws again as it relates to civil liberties...??? :-)
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#4 Posted on 27.5.05 1007.08
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If they take knives away, people will stab with pens and screwdrivers or swing hammers and golf clubs. Anything can be used as a weapon. If a person is crazy enough to pull a knife on someone they know well(as you mentioned domestic violence), that same crazy person would probably use a baseball bat.

Oh yeah, I forgot about fists. Hopefully they will be last to be taken away.
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#5 Posted on 27.5.05 1039.52
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This reminds me of the story a couple years ago about a man arrested trying to hold up a gun store at knifepoint.

Apparently he had stolen the knife earlier that morning from a department store - armed with a stick - and he was working his way up.

I wondered if at breakfast time he was at a stick store with a clod of dirt in his hand...
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#6 Posted on 27.5.05 1836.51
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Who the hell were these chefs they asked about using knives? There are tons of things you need a big knife that a small knife just won't do for.

Next thing you know you won't be able to buy a nice frozen leg of lamb...

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#7 Posted on 27.5.05 1845.43
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It's not Big knife, it's big Pointed end knife.

Butcher knives would be OK, but bayonettes would not.
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#8 Posted on 27.5.05 1848.14
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But... what if I have to debone a whole cow? It could happen!
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#9 Posted on 27.5.05 2127.46
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Was Sid flown over as an expert witness on British knife use?
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#10 Posted on 27.5.05 2343.02
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    Originally posted by redsoxnation
    Was Sid flown over as an expert witness on British knife use?


It wasn't a knife Sid used, it was scissors. Maybe if some city, state, or country wanted to enact scissor control laws then...
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#11 Posted on 28.5.05 0030.07
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    Originally posted by Jonny_English
    They specifically linked this news item to domestic violence on the radio. While I would prefer that we educate our young males that carrying knives, guns and perpetrating acts of violence is not cool, I have no problems with this if it becomes law. It's hardly a huge infringement on our civil liberties, certainly no more than being required to wear the safety belt in the car (principles, I know). I don't see that it will do any harm, even though it will not eradicate the problem.


Banning kitchen knives is not an infringement on your civil liberties? Keep going this way and we'll all be living in state-mandated rubber rooms. Besides, I think this is the money quote:

    Originally posted by Jonny_English
    I don't see that it will do any harm, even though it will not eradicate the problem.


Then why keep throwing useless legislation around? There's no subsistute for responsible behavior, and at some point, all this nannying becomes counter-productive. And there will always be blunt objects, right?
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#12 Posted on 28.5.05 0903.26
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Wasn't it Napolean who at first outlawed sharp, pointy knives for use at dining room tables?

(edited by SOK on 28.5.05 1315)
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#13 Posted on 28.5.05 1806.52
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DOnt you people understand, with no knives around, the world is a safer place. I mean, just look at how safe it is to be in prison! No knives, no guns, NO VIOLENCE!
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#14 Posted on 29.5.05 0020.08
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    Originally posted by StaggerLee
    DOnt you people understand, with no knives around, the world is a safer place. I mean, just look at how safe it is to be in prison! No knives, no guns, NO VIOLENCE!
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#15 Posted on 30.5.05 1023.12
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    Originally posted by PalpatineW
    Then why keep throwing useless legislation around?


Our MP's have to justify their salaries...

I'm largely in agreement with you, PalpatineW. I understand that if this does make it onto the statute books, it would represent an encroachment into our civil liberties, and that from small acorns mighty oak trees have the potential to grow. I suppose that the way I look at this is that it has the potential to give someone time to stop and contemplate their actions (when they're frantically searching for a screwdriver to stab me with instead of the kitchen knife), to perhaps choose a method that is less life threatening. Until we attain the Utopian sense of responsible behaviour, I suppose something is better than nothing.

Perhaps an agreement with manufacturers would be more productive than legislation?
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