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#1 Posted on 19.5.05 1024.46
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Haven't seen this posted anywhere else....UPN came out with their fall schedule today, and according to Zap2It (http://tv.zap2it.com/tveditorial/tve_main/1,1002,271|95394|1|,00.html), Smackdown is moving to Friday nights. Thursday now has a block of comedies.

Should be interesting to see the ratings....Friday has always been a low-rated night, but now Smackdown won't be going against CSI, Survivor and all the big shows on Thursday nights.
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#2 Posted on 19.5.05 1031.40
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Hmmm ... interesting.

I know that I'd I'll probably be more likely to watch it now since it won't be going up against "The O.C.", er, I mean "CSI" ... yeah that's what I meant.

And plus it won't be competing with the Thursday night college football game either.

So does Vince have any say in this whole matter?

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#3 Posted on 19.5.05 1113.28
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    So does Vince have any say in this whole matter?


I think he can ask politely and there's probably some contract provision which prevents them from moving the show to Monday, but he's at the whims of the UPN scheduler.
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#4 Posted on 19.5.05 1119.26
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This contract only runs through 2006 anyway, right? So even if he doesn't like the move to Fridays (which limits the audience certainly, but it's not like they're going to have much in the way of competition), they only have to do it for a year.

That said, I'll be able to watch Smackdown AND Survivor now, which I think is nice anyway.
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#5 Posted on 19.5.05 1226.38
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The teen and young adult demo will be hurt by this. I dont really watch Smackdown anymore but I know i wont be staying at home on a Friday night for that.
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#6 Posted on 19.5.05 1320.10
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    Originally posted by JWstorm
    The teen and young adult demo will be hurt by this. I dont really watch Smackdown anymore but I know i wont be staying at home on a Friday night for that.


Yeah, I can definitely see this hurting them. I will probably tape it, but I doubt everyone will.
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#7 Posted on 19.5.05 1322.21
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Can't wait for the heel promo lambasting fans at home who can't get a date and are watching on a Friday night.
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#8 Posted on 19.5.05 1322.43
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For the curious, the shows now going HEAD-TO-HEAD with Smackdown!

ABC: Supernanny, Hope & Faith, Hot Properties
CBS: The Ghost Whisperer, Threshold
FOX: Bernie Mac Show, Malcolm in the Middle, The Gate
NBC: Three Wishes, Dateline NBC
The WB: What I Like About You, Twins, Reba, Living with Fran

And the shows NOW on Thursday...

ABC: Alias, The Night Stalker
CBS: Survivor 11, CSI
FOX: The OC, Reunion
NBC: Joey, Will & Grace, The Apprentice
The WB: Smallville, Everwood

Somehow, I think this is the better option. Smackdown has a better shot at better ratings when it's not up against three or four of the hottest shows on TV.
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#9 Posted on 19.5.05 1412.41
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    Originally posted by NewYorkTimes's Upfronts Blog

    For the ladies, there's UPN.

    As [UPN President] Dawn Ostroff says, "It's where the girls are, and where the boys want to be."



Does this sound like a network planning on keeping around SmackDown! for long?

Networks change their tunes from year to year depedning on what they believe will draw in advertisers, but this does not seem promising.

Also noteworthy is Meltzer declaing this "shocking"; he had no idea, and that means the rank and file of WWE didn't either. Wonder who did know.

(edited by thecubsfan on 19.5.05 1414)
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#10 Posted on 19.5.05 1427.50
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Wasn't UPN launched with the intent of snagging young male viewers, what with SD and Enterprise and all? So now they're reversing course and deciding to, from the sound of it, compete with Lifetime, We, Oxygen, et al?
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#11 Posted on 19.5.05 1437.42
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    Originally posted by thecubsfan
      Originally posted by NewYorkTimes's Upfronts Blog

      For the ladies, there's UPN.

      As [UPN President] Dawn Ostroff says, "It's where the girls are, and where the boys want to be."



    Does this sound like a network planning on keeping around SmackDown! for long?

    Networks change their tunes from year to year depedning on what they believe will draw in advertisers, but this does not seem promising.

    Also noteworthy is Meltzer declaing this "shocking"; he had no idea, and that means the rank and file of WWE didn't either. Wonder who did know.

    (edited by thecubsfan on 19.5.05 1414)


SO even though those rumours from a few months back about Smackdown being cancelled were false, it looks like it's gonna be off UPN anyway. I know we've had the discussion here about how ratings do not equal advertising dollars, at least as far as wrestling, but still, for a network like UPN to essentially give the shaft to its highest rated programming, the only one that's proven, is really surprising.

So now for the next year and a half, we can hear the continual rumours about how the brand split is gonna end. I hope it doesn't, for a number of reasons, unless they dramatically change the composition of the roster and change the way they present their TV shows. Of course, maybe if the brand split does end, we can look forward to a re-do of the Invasion storyline, ecept this time done well. Or maybe I'm just getting way too far ahead of the game at this point.
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#12 Posted on 19.5.05 1630.57
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    Originally posted by Shem the Penman
    Wasn't UPN launched with the intent of snagging young male viewers, what with SD and Enterprise and all? So now they're reversing course and deciding to, from the sound of it, compete with Lifetime, We, Oxygen, et al?






And UPN in its approximately decade of existance battles the WB for the 5th spot among the 4 networks. After 10 years of going nowhere, what do they have to lose by going from focusing on men to focusing on women. They tried being 'the minority network', and that still didn't provide them any movement.
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#13 Posted on 19.5.05 1750.26
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Word from the Observer is that the WWF was nt consulted on the move to Friday nights. Friday and Saturday prime time slots are death knells. Vince should start asking USA if they'll take Smackdown in '06.
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#14 Posted on 19.5.05 1756.11
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Do you think it will affect the Canadian broadcast of the show on The Score? I'm sure given the choice, they'd rather keep it on Thursday rather than Friday, as Friday has more sporting events and they already air it an hour early on Thursday to help avoid going head to head with the major competition.

I just think it would be amusing to have Canada get Smackdown a whole day early, rather than just an hour early.
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#15 Posted on 19.5.05 1844.38
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Well, after almost 10 years of Raw being aired in the UK on a Friday, I guess the Americans finally get a chance to feel our pain.

I wonder what this will do the scheduling on Sky TV, since I believe Smackdown moved to Fridays from Saturday after they started showing Raw live on Mondays. For some reason, I doubt WWE would be happy with having Smackdown air in the UK before it airs in the US, even if it is only by a few hours.
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#16 Posted on 19.5.05 1900.47
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I'd be interested to see how this could impact PPV buys. Having your hard sell for a Sunday show on a Friday night seems a lot less beneficial than being able to have it on a Thursday night... at least currently they are able to get a good push in before the weekend begins.
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#17 Posted on 19.5.05 2044.57
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I'm not certain that this is necessarily the end of the world. Wrestling has survived on Friday and Saturday nights in the past, hasn't it? I know we're in a different era now, but let's get some perspective here. These nights are "death knells" only compared to viewership earlier on in the week, but WWE programming even as recently as its attitude peak never approached Survivor, American Idol, or Apprentice numbers, so being on a night which would make getting ratings that high is pretty much irrelevant. That's not what they need to do.

Let's look at last Friday's ratings. *"Two hours of family talking about the Elvis they knew was enough to give CBS the edge on Friday night. The eye network won households with a 7.8/14, well ahead of ABC's 5.5/10. NBC came in third with a 4.9/9, followed by FOX's 2.4/4, UPN's 2.1/4 and The WB's 2.0/4."

WWE isn't expected to go anywehere near CBS, ABC, and NBC's numbers for the night, but if they retain a good eighty percent of their audience, which I think they will once everyone finds out when it's on, I think they can keep UPN in a solid fourth, ahead of either Fox or the WB or both on your average week. They have to hard-sell the move, and they have to book some serious friggin' angles that force their audience to tune in (or at least TiVo them). They need to make it a much, much stronger show for it to survive.


*source: tv.zap2it.com
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#18 Posted on 19.5.05 2050.42
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Wow, I'd take Bernie Mac and Malcom any time over Smackdown. I had no idea those shows were relegated to Fridays, hope that isn't a bad omen.
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#19 Posted on 20.5.05 0753.07
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    Originally posted by asteroidboy
    Wow, I'd take Bernie Mac and Malcom any time over Smackdown. I had no idea those shows were relegated to Fridays, hope that isn't a bad omen.


After sending Malcolm to the death knell (7:30 on Sundays opposite 60 minutes) last season, I'm just ecstatic that Malcolm has survived for another year.

Smackdown on Friday sounds like a good deal to me. Shows that even show a hint of ratings success on that night or sometimes Saturday night tend to last a while.
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#20 Posted on 20.5.05 0905.19
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    Originally posted by Chumpstain
    Do you think it will affect the Canadian broadcast of the show on The Score? I'm sure given the choice, they'd rather keep it on Thursday rather than Friday, as Friday has more sporting events and they already air it an hour early on Thursday to help avoid going head to head with the major competition.

    I just think it would be amusing to have Canada get Smackdown a whole day early, rather than just an hour early.
A little off topic, but I'm wondering...how about tapings? Will the WWE continue tapings on Tuesdays, or will they move them to Wednesday?
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