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#1 Posted on 15.4.02 2004.12
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Ha! Flair apologized for taking time away from the wrestlers! That's great! Okay, I'll shut up now.





-Jag

/edit Yes, Booker T does indeed rock.

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#2 Posted on 15.4.02 2033.03
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With all the dancing and fake-guitar playing and general love of the plundah, I think it can be said: Buh-Buh Ray Dudley thinks he's New Jack. I just hope he doesn't try any of New Jack's crazy, career-ending splashes off 25 foot tall stuff!
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#3 Posted on 15.4.02 2040.26
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Here's a rhyme that was missed....

Stasiak is on crack.

EDIT: Booker T OWNS. The facial expressions were priceless when Golddust walked in. And they "getting too old for this" line.

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#4 Posted on 15.4.02 2103.11
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I gotta agree with ya, Booker T is the MAN. Did anybody notice them screw up Eddie G's entrance? Back to Booker, he needs a fued, they need him on TV more. And wheres D'Lo Brown? Isnt he on RAW?
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#5 Posted on 15.4.02 2115.37
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I didn't mind Lawler all that much before....but now he's offical on my nerves with the whole "PUPPIES" thing.
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#6 Posted on 15.4.02 2117.12
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Ya know, while I do think Trish is getting quite good in the ring, her interviews are so lame. She has the interview charisma of a b-horror movie actress
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#7 Posted on 15.4.02 2117.16
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Mmmmmm, Trish and Molly together.

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#8 Posted on 15.4.02 2133.21
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Lawler is really doing a diservice to the whole womens division. Molly and Trish were putting on a half decent wrestling match and Lawler can't do anything but talk about puppies. It's one thing when the women are prancing around at ringside or in a cat fight, but for goodness sakes Lawler, how are we supposed to take this match seriously with your incessant yapping?

Thumbs down to Jackie and Crash.

Thumbs way up to the team of Regal and Eddy.

Thumbs downs for "Latino Heat" music. WHen they had that delay there at the beginning of Eddy's entrance, I was really hoping his old WCW tune would hit. That song rocked. It fit his character perfectly. Thumbs down for oogling Terri too. It just looked so hokey.

Thumbs up to RVD and his continued offensive innovation. Nobody breaks out new moves and variations of moves like he does.

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#9 Posted on 15.4.02 2136.38
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* Didn't it seem like Bradshaw was going for a Austin-esque "what?" chant when he started listing types of nuts and pausing after each type?

* Doesn't Lita appear a little - larger?

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#10 Posted on 15.4.02 2142.47
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damnit Brock, why couldn't you do that to cheese-grater face Lita
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#11 Posted on 15.4.02 2247.25
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That new WWF Undisputed Championship belt is only about 3 weeks old it already has a button missing. Whats the deal with that? I think it was like that on SmackDown too. I guess they don't build 'em like they used to.

BTW, Bradshaw's spiel about Planters was pretty damn funny.
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#12 Posted on 15.4.02 2332.36
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Did anyone else hear JR call Raven "Scotty" during their match?

"And Bubba Ray catches Scotty with a neckbreaker..."

Excellent!
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#13 Posted on 15.4.02 2345.37
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r0fl Eddie called Rob Van Dam A Klepto
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#14 Posted on 16.4.02 0005.11
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Ok...so the "promiscuous" Diva is the face and the "virginal" one is the heel? Interesting...and Lawler, just shut the hell up. He doesn't have just a one-track mind, it's a one-way street.

Paul Heyman = creepy manager..wonder how Lita felt about agreeing to that bit.

Regal and Eddie were great, wonderful facial reactions!

Stasiak: I'm sorry, he blew someone to even get on TV with that bit.

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#15 Posted on 16.4.02 0009.39
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Couple of things from tonight's raw:

-God help me. For the second week in a row one of my highlights involved the Undertaker, giving a hella cool interview which emphasized the importance of the WWF title.

-Booker T, as others have stated, is a God. I could watch 2 hours of Booker being annoyed by everything around him.

-Steve Regal is my hero. That interview was just golden, and made me laugh my ass off.

-I FUCKING HATE JERRY LAWLER! I hope he diddles some police chief's 13 year old daughter and finally goes to jail for statutory since sadly they can't jail him for sucking on the mic. He's doing his damndest to kill any credibility the women's division is trying to gain. And after a while the virginity thing moved from annoying to somehow offensive and creepy. I blame JR for playing along, but in the end Lawler is the catalyst of this shit.

-Brock Lesnar is not of human born. And Matt Hardy will die on Sunday. Which is going to be quite fun to watch actually. Way to go on the creepy stalker vibe Paul

-Steve Austin has begun to bore the piss out of me these days. The interviews are boring, the matches are formulaic, his character really does nothing of interest. I really am starting to wish he'd get pissed off and walk out again.

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#16 Posted on 16.4.02 0028.36
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A few things...

1)Every wrestler seems to pause in his/her delivery, which is fine...considering how pervasive the "What" chant still is.

2)I had to laugh at JR and Triple H put over Hulkamania with the Aggie crowd giving mentions of Hogan a noticeably tepid reaction, along with some very audible booing. Also, in the main event when JR and Lawler were discussing how Triple H would react with Hogan being the clear fan favorite---not if the Kemper Arena crowd is anything like the Raw crowd he won't be. I'd say that it was just a Raw crowd not reacting so loudly to a Smackdown guy, but the crowd popped huge coming out of the Rock's SNL/Scorpion King clips--so I won't. Could the ride be over ALREADY??? If so, putting Hogan in the title match now was a brilliant move.

3)Lita needs to start exercising--not pretty when the gut hangs over the thong underwear. And what's with letting Lita completely fall apart both physically and mentally? Everytime I see her, she reminds me of Shannon Hoon from Blind Melon's No Rain video...just lazy, spaced, and stoned out of her gourd.

4)Would it have killed JR to do more than just mention that Raven does color on Heat and actually put over that he's doing a hell of a job? I heard people giving him positive reviews, so I caught the last half hour of the show, and just by virtue of the way commentates like a HEEL, while putting over the MATCH already makes him the best the WWF has to offer....from where I sit.

5)Eddy Guerrero has been gone for a year, and the best they could come up with for a character was...the old character?

6)I think that development gives hope to D'Lo Brown who will have the opportunity to be either a pimp or a turban wearing loser.

There was more, but I'm tired...show overall was pretty good. Build up the heels, I say. Build 'em all up!

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#17 Posted on 16.4.02 0055.43
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My thoughts:

--People who root for Steve Austin are idiots. His interviews (once a highlight of every card) have turned into list after list after list so that the idiots in the crowd can chant “What?” His matches are boring the hell out of me. And he's been alienating the one person who's been nice to him for the last few months in Ric Flair. If it hadn't been for Flair, remember, Vince McMahon would have stripped Austin of the WWF Title and awarded it to Kurt Angle the night after Survivor Series.

--On the other hand, Undertaker (whom I once hated) is simply kicking so much ass right now, it's unreal. The way he emphasized how important the WWF Title is to him, it's making me root for him to beat Austin and then win the title. Keep in mind, I used to be a card-carrying member of the “Mark Calloway's Old Ass Should Retire” club. But now, I'm simply waiting for Steve Austin to get the fuck off of my television forever.

Hardcore Title Match

With the brief Hardcore Title reign, Raven has now become a 15-time Hardcore Champion, and has overtaken Crash Holly for most Hardcore Title wins ever. Tommy Dreamer and Steven Richards won their very first Hardcore Titles, and when Bubba Ray Dudley won it back, he became a 7-time Hardcore Champion. That's what house show title change after house show title change will do to you.

So, who again thought they were gonna start taking the Hardcore Title seriously? Can I see a show of hands? The Hardcore division will never be taken seriously as long as the 24/7 rule is in effect.

Stasiak v. The Big Show

“Planet Stasiak”? I think Shawn Stasiak has rammed head-first into one too many hard metal objects. Nice to see something of a new gimmick for him. His strategy of trying to wear down The Big Show's legs was actually a great idea, but he went for the figure-four far too quickly and it cost him.

Next time, go after his left hand. There might still be a lingering injury there from when the nWo pulverized it about five years ago.

I know, I'm pathetic, remembering that.

Eddie Guerrero's Interview

Great job on the mic by Eddie Guerrero. And it was interesting that he subtly mentioned the drug problem he had not too long ago. That'll get all the smarks talking, I guarantee.

Booker T and Goldust

I'll say it as well-- Booker T cracked me the hell up. His facial expressions were simply gold.

Crash vs. Jackie

OK, so now Crash is Disco Inferno? Next time somebody comes out before a match against Crash, they should say, “Bring out the dude that lost to the chick,” like Scott Hall did before a match with Disco--

--five years ago. What's up with all this WCW trivia floating around in my brain?

Horrible match, by the way. Jackie would be better served as a referee, while I'd like to see Crash get more involved in the Hardcore division.

William Regal interview

Damn, all of the backstage segments kinda ruled ass tonight. Regal's was no exception. That dude can cut a promo something fierce, to be sure. Although if Coach had reminded me of the ass-kissing thing, I wouldn't have threatened to whoop him-- I'd have just done it. Coach deserved it on this exchange.

RVD/Spike vs. Regal/Guerrero

An outstanding match in my view. Nice to see that Eddie's still got it in the ring. His finishing Spike Dudley with the Frog Splash was a nice way of telling RVD that he's next. But somehow I think that RVD will retain at Backlash, but the feud will hopefully be far from over.

Women's Interview and Match

Why in the blue hell are they allowing Lawler behind the mic, anyway? I was at least as offended by his commentary as everybody else was. I could visualize Lawler's eyes lighting up throughout the match as he conjectured as to Molly's virginity like he'd want to pop her himself. Y'know something Jerry, I can think of enough sick comments myself without listening to a 50-year-old man try and make them for me. The WWF shouldn't have had Lawler and the women's division on the same show, because with Lawler's commentary, the division will never be taken seriously. Never mind that Molly and Trish busted their asses to put together a great match, all Lawler could think about was “WOOHOO! PUPPIES!” Well, I for one am sick of listening to him.

About the match itself. Figures that they'd give Trish the win, right? I think this will make the fourth consecutive PPV that Trish and Jazz will battle each other. As you're probably guessing, I would have loved to see Molly win the match, but I knew it wouldn't happen because they don't like to have heel vs. heel matches on PPVs. And I can understand that to an extent. Still, it pisses me off that Trish (and Lita, and everyone else) always seems to get the important victory over Molly.

Bradshaw Segment

OK, I know Bradshaw's a proud Texan. I can respect that. What bothers me is that whenever he's in Texas, he always uses all the Texas references to get cheap pops. Cheap pops in general piss me off-- interviews should consist of much more than that.

Lita/Heyman segment

Great segment. Heyman plays the cold, calculating and slightly looney character to perfection. The way he threatened Lita was a great way of foreshadowing what Lesnar will do to Matt Hardy on Sunday-- namely, kill him.

Hardyz/Booker T-Goldust

Booker T and Goldust seem to be a pretty good team. I'm all for keeping them together, because they're definitely an Odd Couple and I loved Booker's expressions when Goldust did his weirded-out shit. It's also nice to see someone finally defeat the Hardyz-- and even nicer to see Booker T do it. If you'll remember, Booker T (with Test) lost both the WWF and WCW World Tag Team Titles to The Hardyz-- and both times due to outside interference by either The Undertaker or Lita. Nice to see that there was no Cheatacanrana during the match.

When Lesnar hit The Move on Matt Hardy, I thought Matt was dead. Holy shit, what a move-- and even moreso when hit on the stage. Matt could bring Jeff, Lita, Trish, Essa Rios, Goldberg, Godzilla and King Kong with him to ringside at Backlash, and I don't think it'd make a damn bit of difference.

Triple H interview

Triple H was gold on the mic tonight, as were most people. You get the feeling that Triple H will do absolutely anything to defeat Hogan at Backlash, and the tension will continue to mount up until Sunday night.

Austin/Bradshaw vs. Undertaker/nWo

OK, I knew the heels couldn't be paid enough money to beat Austin and Bradshaw in Texas. But it was nice to see a post-match ass-kicking. The only thing that would've made it better would have been for Hall and Syxx to break out the spraypaint cans.

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#18 Posted on 16.4.02 0147.54
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I just have one thing to say. When the two most boring points of the show are the Promo by the Champ and the Promo by the face fighting for the #1 Contendership:

That's not a good thing, that's... A Bad Thing.
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#19 Posted on 16.4.02 0210.08
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    Originally posted by Punkinhed


    Paul Heyman = creepy manager..wonder how Lita felt about agreeing to that bit.





Considering her turn as "Miss Congeniality" in ECW, I imagine she didn't mind....
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#20 Posted on 16.4.02 0309.27
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Taker has become a promo GOD. His pops are getting louder, his promos outshine Austin's, and his ring work is the best it's been in years.

The backstage skits on RAW have improved greatly. At least things seem to tie together better.

Lawler should be shot for his horrid commentary during the woman's match.

I REALLY want to see RVD/Eddy at the PPV, but not enough to shell out 35 bucks for it. It's the only match I care about.


I don't think that Spike has any bones in his body.

I'm really not digging Austin right now, but other than that the *New* RAW is fun to watch.
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