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Eddie Famous
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#1 Posted on 20.4.05 0120.05
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Wow. Talk about being off by a bit....


http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/3142605


Now go eat some Big Macs!
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#2 Posted on 20.4.05 0646.20
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Not that any of this is going to stop the food police...
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#3 Posted on 20.4.05 0806.47
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    Originally posted by the Houston Chronicle
    A related study, also in Wednesday's JAMA, found that overweight Americans are healthier than ever, thanks to better maintenance of blood pressure and cholesterol levels. Diabetes is on the rise among people in all weight categories, however.


I read this a get that overweight people are healthier thanks to the miracle of modern medicine. Is that really anything to celebrate unless we're trying to continually (a) make overweight people feel okay and/or (b) pad the pockets of the drug manufacturers?
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#4 Posted on 21.4.05 0817.58
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Well, I work in an orthopedics department at my hospital. ABout 90% of the people who have knee replacement surgery are overwieght by a significant amount. Each surgery nets the doctor about $30K. So, I am sure they dont mind a bunch of fat people walking around on knees that weren't designed to hold them up for a lifetime.
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#5 Posted on 21.4.05 1336.39
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    Originally posted by DrOp


      I read this a get that overweight people are healthier thanks to the miracle of modern medicine. Is that really anything to celebrate unless we're trying to continually (a) make overweight people feel okay and/or (b) pad the pockets of the drug manufacturers?


    Well, the drug manufacturers are always looking to make more money. But, as to the first point, obviously it's great news. The main problem with being overweight IS health related. It's bad for you, especially if you're truly large. But if someone's bigger and healthy, why does it matter, unless you think everyone needs to fit into a particular, media-sponsored idea of what's attractive? People should be fit because it's good for them, not just because they want to fit in a certain size of pants.

    (edited by GodEatGod on 21.4.05 1538)
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#6 Posted on 21.4.05 1523.19
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Not my point. There are lots of large people who are healthy. Being large and healthy is not the same as being large and on medication that makes you appear healthy by lowering your blood pressure or your cholesterol.

I feel that this report is not cautious enough given the amount of over-weight people in the States and the overwhelming body of research that shows what ailments lie ahead for thse individuals. It is not (to me) about athestics-- it is about chronic illnesses (such as diabetes, hypertension, obesity, high cholesterol) and their collective impact on the healhcare system.

(edited by DrOp on 21.4.05 1623)
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#7 Posted on 21.4.05 2040.33
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Mmm, Doc, that wasn't my point. Obviously I would advocate losing weight for health reasons, or I wouldn't have had the gastric bypass (results in my sig). THIS is what I was talking about...


"The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimated today that packing on too many pounds accounts for 25,814 deaths a year in the United States. As recently as January, the CDC came up with an estimate 14 times higher: 365,000 deaths."


Missing your numbers by a factor of x14 is pretty bad science....

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#8 Posted on 22.4.05 0452.01
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Thanks Eddie. I somehow missed those statistics on my read of the article. Your point is extremely valid.
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#9 Posted on 25.4.05 1131.09
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Honestly, seeing weight-challenged in quotes is far more offensive to me than seing fat. Fat's simple, short, and honest, and your smart ass attempt at PCism needlessly makes a mockery of my weight and/or health, especially if you endorse fat people to eat more afterward.

Grah. It's shit like this that makes writing my Mockumentary about size descrimination even harder to write.
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#10 Posted on 26.4.05 1613.58
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    Originally posted by Lexus
    Honestly, seeing weight-challenged in quotes is far more offensive to me than seing fat. Fat's simple, short, and honest, and your smart ass attempt at PCism needlessly makes a mockery of my weight and/or health, especially if you endorse fat people to eat more afterward.


What the sam hell are you talking about?

Having weighed in at just under 500 pounds five months ago, I can call my condition anything I damn well please.

I had GASTRIC BYPASS surgery. Does that sound like I'm endorsing people to be overweight and eat more?

For someone supposedly writing a "mockumentary" you have absolutely no idea about "tongue-in-cheek" comments.
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#11 Posted on 27.4.05 0625.32
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Hey Eddie--I didn't know that about you. Are you blogging your experiences anywhere by chance?
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#12 Posted on 27.4.05 0947.47
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    Originally posted by DrOp
    Hey Eddie--I didn't know that about you. Are you blogging your experiences anywhere by chance?


I had an idea from his sig, but I didn't know he had to go that bipass route.

I glad you're doing good Eddie. I had a friend do it two years ago and the doc basically said: "You do this, or have a heart attack at age 29." He went from 550 to 220 over the course of 18 months.

One piece of advice (if your doc didn't go over it): Watch your alchol intake. My friend probably could drink Andre the Giant under the table before. But now, two shots can do him in. I don't know if it's just him or what, but he can't drink like he used to.
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#13 Posted on 27.4.05 1346.32
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Thank you for the encouragement!

Doc: no, I'm not blogging. I probably should have done something for the first month or so anyway, I did have some complication with the incision (read: nasty infection), wore a Wound-vac thing for about a month. If folks want to drop me a line I'll definitely share more than they probably want to know

One thing for sure: make sure the surgery is a last resort.

Zeruel: Oh yeh. I didn't drink before, so that's not a problem. I can't have much sugar at all, and try to stay away form it. It hurts, then comes back up, even now. Chicken don't work either yet.

Luckily, Chef Boyardee makes those little pasta microwave thingies that are perfectly sized for me right now. If it weren't for red sauce....

Again, thank you.

Oh yeh: my HMO also covered the surgery finally (make DAMN sure yours does if you are interested in doing it out there)

(edited by Eddie Famous on 27.4.05 1148)
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#14 Posted on 27.4.05 1354.14
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    Originally posted by DrOp
    Hey Eddie--I didn't know that about you. Are you blogging your experiences anywhere by chance?


He's posting on the internet on a board (originally) focused on wrestling. According to that, we're all 500 lbs. and dwelling in basements

Seriously though Eddie, I know somewhat the feeling. I was on the border where I could have considered GB surgery (315 lbs.), but I had never truly given myself over to lifestyle changes. In the last 18 months I've dropped about 65 or so pounds, and keep just trying to get a little better each week. Good luck with everything continuing to work out for you.
And I like the term "weight-challenged" infinitely more than the usual "fat-ass"

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#15 Posted on 27.4.05 1542.07
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Good luck to both of my "Friendly Illinois Brethern" :-) If a visit to Miller Park is ever in your plans, please let me know.
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#16 Posted on 28.4.05 0941.43
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    Originally posted by Sec19Row53
    Good luck to both of my "Friendly Illinois Brethern" :-) If a visit to Miller Park is ever in your plans, please let me know.

Consider the offer returned if you ever end up at a White Sox home game, where I'm Sec101Row2 :)
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#17 Posted on 28.4.05 1213.10
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    Originally posted by spf
    I know somewhat the feeling. I was on the border where I could have considered GB surgery (315 lbs.), but I had never truly given myself over to lifestyle changes. In the last 18 months I've dropped about 65 or so pounds, and keep just trying to get a little better each week. Good luck with everything continuing to work out for you.


Thank you all again.

Good work on getting that weight off. The surgery basically forces me to change my habits, but it has also given me a lot more energy than I had before. For example, I plan to attend this weekend's Worlds Largest Softball Tailgate here in town, whereas at near a quarter ton, I would've just slept in.

Tonight, its the movies (Sin City) since I can fit in a theatre chair again...and the theatre has bottled water and easy-to-digest popcorn. And a meal at "The Owls" (Hooters for the single guys) where they have pretty good chili. Before, no way.
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#18 Posted on 29.4.05 0152.19
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Good to hear the surgery went well. Good luck losing weight.

I still hate the term weight-challenged. Sounds like you're trying to bench too much. I prefer to be called fat, 'cause fat's honest. Much of the ranting was about the terminology.

And I still blame my friend's steady diet of fast food for his heart attack (suffered at 22). Another friend recieves government aide because he's considered to be handicapped, and he's pushing 600. He's 26. My father's weight condition and eating habits led to diabetes, and coupled with heart problems, he looks and acts like a 70 year old man. He's 51. Sorry if I seemed touchy, again, I'm glad to hear you're doing well Eddie, I really went overboard and made an ass of myself, but I didn't know your history or stances prior, so I got defensive.
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#19 Posted on 29.4.05 0258.57
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    Originally posted by Lexus
    Good to hear the surgery went well. Good luck losing weight.


Thank you!

    Originally posted by Lexus
    And I still blame my friend's steady diet of fast food for his heart attack (suffered at 22). Another friend recieves government aide because he's considered to be handicapped, and he's pushing 600. He's 26. My father's weight condition and eating habits led to diabetes, and coupled with heart problems, he looks and acts like a 70 year old man. He's 51.


Rough times there. You just cannot eat that stuff every day every meal and be healthy. I'm very lucky in that I was never diabetic, my knees are still in good enough shape, and my blood pressure has never strayed from normal levels. VERY lucky. As I posted before, my main beef (mmm...beef) with the story was the level of how far they were off with the numbers. Being the seventh leading cause of death is still plenty bad, but certainly better than second.

    Originally posted by Lexus
    Sorry if I seemed touchy, again, I'm glad to hear you're doing well Eddie, I really went overboard and made an ass of myself, but I didn't know your history or stances prior, so I got defensive.


Bah. Don't worry about it. Fight the good fight and all that. I may be quite a bit lighter than I was, but I'm still too lazy to be too mad for very long :)
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