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#1 Posted on 19.4.05 1114.03
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#2 Posted on 19.4.05 1144.25
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It's Ratzinger!
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#3 Posted on 19.4.05 1149.23
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    Originally posted by spf
    It's Ratzinger!


Or as he will now be known, Pope Benedict XVI

(edited by Blanket Jackson on 19.4.05 1249)
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#4 Posted on 19.4.05 1206.50
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A palpible pope, for the first time in a while. I was surprised he didn't take "John Paul III" as his name because of his connection with the previous papacy...
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#5 Posted on 19.4.05 1212.40
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    Originally posted by spf
    It's Ratzinger!


The guy from "Cheers"?
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#6 Posted on 19.4.05 1238.02
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Pardon me, 'cause I don't know the history of this stuff, but did this whole thing happen faster than usual? It just seemed, with all the talk about the seclusion, and the white smoke, and the black smoke, that this process would take longer than a couple of days.
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#7 Posted on 19.4.05 1323.25
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    Originally posted by Battlezone
    Pardon me, 'cause I don't know the history of this stuff, but did this whole thing happen faster than usual? It just seemed, with all the talk about the seclusion, and the white smoke, and the black smoke, that this process would take longer than a couple of days.

It depends. They didn't want the process to go too quickly, 'cause they wanted to be thoughtful about their choice. However, if the process takes too long, it would have appeared that the church was deeply divided. So this is probably about the right length of time.
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#8 Posted on 19.4.05 1345.44
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As a left-wing Catholic, I'm always worried about getting pulled in different directions, but how can you not like a Pope named Joe? He seems like an alright guy.
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#9 Posted on 19.4.05 1501.11
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MSNBC says he's pretty conservative (msnbc.msn.com)

It'll be interesting to see whether he's just going to try and stay the course, or try to push the Church into a more fundamentalist position.

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#10 Posted on 19.4.05 1507.44
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...best of luck to Pope Benedict, but I still kinda hoped the Canadian cardinal would have won it.
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#11 Posted on 19.4.05 1526.11
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I apologize for my lack of knowledge on the catholic church, but what's the story with the name changing? How does that come about? Just wondering, because I didn't know about it, and was confused when CNN said Joe Ratzinger was the new pope while MSNBC said that Pope Benedict XVI was the new pope.
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#12 Posted on 19.4.05 1530.45
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    Originally posted by OMEGA
    I apologize for my lack of knowledge on the catholic church, but what's the story with the name changing? How does that come about? Just wondering, because I didn't know about it, and was confused when CNN said Joe Ratzinger was the new pope while MSNBC said that Pope Benedict XVI was the new pope.


The College of Cardinals elects a Pope, and then the Pope chooses a name, typically biblical and usually attributed to a saint.
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#13 Posted on 19.4.05 1532.47
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I *knew* this thread was lacking something. Just took me a while to figure out what it was.





Ahhhhh, that's better.

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#14 Posted on 19.4.05 1533.07
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    Originally posted by Freeway420
    The College of Cardinals elects a Pope, and then the Pope chooses a name, typically biblical and usually attributed to a saint.
Well, not necessarily, as it usually is in honor of a previous pope. From Wikipedia:

    Originally posted by Wikipedia article on Popes
    The Dean of the College of Cardinals then asks the successfully elected Cardinal two solemn questions. First he asks, "Do you freely accept your election?" If he replies with the word "Accepto," his reign as Pope begins at that instant, not at the coronation ceremony several days afterward. The Dean then asks, "By what name shall you be called?" The new Pope then announces the name he has chosen for himself (starting in 535, the Pope has customarily chosen a new name for himself during his Pontificate; the names are not based on any system other than general honorifics, and have been based on immediate predecessors, mentors, and political similarity).
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#15 Posted on 19.4.05 1600.34
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Also, the name change came about because Pope Mercury didn't sound very Catholic in 535 AD, so he changed his name to John II.

If he's paying homage to a past pope, Benedict could be a moderate. Benedict XV (after Pius X) was a pretty moderate guy who tried to heal some of the damage done by hardliner Pius X.
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#16 Posted on 19.4.05 1625.31
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    Originally posted by Roy.
    Also, the name change came about because Pope Mercury didn't sound very Catholic in 535 AD, so he changed his name to John II.

    If he's paying homage to a past pope, Benedict could be a moderate. Benedict XV (after Pius X) was a pretty moderate guy who tried to heal some of the damage done by hardliner Pius X.


I'm not certain, but I believe that they said that the new Pope took the name "Benedict" in honor of Saint Benedict rather than one of the previous Popes known by the same name.
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#17 Posted on 19.4.05 1646.51
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    Originally posted by BigSteve
      Originally posted by Roy.
      Also, the name change came about because Pope Mercury didn't sound very Catholic in 535 AD, so he changed his name to John II.

      If he's paying homage to a past pope, Benedict could be a moderate. Benedict XV (after Pius X) was a pretty moderate guy who tried to heal some of the damage done by hardliner Pius X.


    I'm not certain, but I believe that they said that the new Pope took the name "Benedict" in honor of Saint Benedict rather than one of the previous Popes known by the same name.


Possibly because St. Benedict was the one who came up with the term Opus Dei, which was later taken as a name by the conservative Catholic organization that no doubt backed Ratzinger.

As for predecessors, there's also Benedict XIV (mid-18th century), who was a hardcore anti-modernist who fought unsuccessfully against the Enlightenment.
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#18 Posted on 19.4.05 2016.23
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    Originally posted by OMEGA
    I apologize for my lack of knowledge on the catholic church, but what's the story with the name changing? How does that come about? Just wondering, because I didn't know about it, and was confused when CNN said Joe Ratzinger was the new pope while MSNBC said that Pope Benedict XVI was the new pope.


It's not just the Catholic Church. Did you really think all those French Kings were actually named Louis? Many kings choose a name at their coronation.


Wow, the media sure has used this as an opportunity to bash the Church. More on the sex scandals and how the Church is SO archaic!

The anchors act like the progression of history will allow women to become priests and that the Church is just evil for not shifting their position. Why do they believe that women must someday be priests? Progressivism for the sake of progressivism makes me sick.

A reporter on ABC was talking about how hardcore conservative Benedict is. And that now that he is Pope, all his policies are infallible. I can't believe that such ignorance is so widespread.

And lastly, CNN played a small interview with a women who said she HEARD from a friend that this new Pope was as conservative as JPII. Then she said that she doesn't think he is as charismatic. EXCUSE ME?! Well if she had to be TOLD by a friend what the new Pope was like, how would she know how much charisma he does or doesn't have.

Bill O'reilly on the radio today said that the new Pope was not too fond of the US(he says he knows this through a priest who works for Benedict) because it is a secular country. He said that Benedict disliked the US because of abortion and sexual promiscuity. EXCUSE ME O'REILLY. Wouldn't he look to the US as much better than Europe in the area(through the eyes of a conservative)? Come on, they are much more secular and relativistic than we are.

If you can't tell, the media coverage of this event has really gotten under my skin.
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#19 Posted on 19.4.05 2030.16
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The church needs to be bashed. It's dangerous.
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#20 Posted on 19.4.05 2032.28
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    Originally posted by ShotGunShep
      Originally posted by OMEGA
      I apologize for my lack of knowledge on the catholic church, but what's the story with the name changing? How does that come about? Just wondering, because I didn't know about it, and was confused when CNN said Joe Ratzinger was the new pope while MSNBC said that Pope Benedict XVI was the new pope.


    It's not just the Catholic Church. Did you really think all those French Kings were actually named Louis? Many kings choose a name at their coronation.


    Wow, the media sure has used this as an opportunity to bash the Church. More on the sex scandals and how the Church is SO archaic!

    The anchors act like the progression of history will allow women to become priests and that the Church is just evil for not shifting their position. Why do they believe that women must someday be priests? Progressivism for the sake of progressivism makes me sick.

    A reporter on ABC was talking about how hardcore conservative Benedict is. And that now that he is Pope, all his policies are infallible. I can't believe that such ignorance is so widespread.

    And lastly, CNN played a small interview with a women who said she HEARD from a friend that this new Pope was as conservative as JPII. Then she said that she doesn't think he is as charismatic. EXCUSE ME?! Well if she had to be TOLD by a friend what the new Pope was like, how would she know how much charisma he does or doesn't have.

    Bill O'reilly on the radio today said that the new Pope was not too fond of the US(he says he knows this through a priest who works for Benedict) because it is a secular country. He said that Benedict disliked the US because of abortion and sexual promiscuity. EXCUSE ME O'REILLY. Wouldn't he look to the US as much better than Europe in the area(through the eyes of a conservative)? Come on, they are much more secular and relativistic than we are.

    If you can't tell, the media coverage of this event has really gotten under my skin.


Were you as bothered as I was by the same media's no-questions-asked ass-kissing of the last pope in the days preceeding and following his death? The all of a sudden, 180-degree turn from blind praise to what you call blind attacking of the church and its leader confuse me.
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