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#1 Posted on 17.4.05 1908.29
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Anti-war Activist killed by car bomb in Iraq (news.yahoo.com)

I disagreed with the war in Iraq, but agreed with going into Afghanistan, and the general idea that we need to go after terrorists with no mercy. And when arguing with people it always came back to the idea that "do you think your good intentions and well-wishes for the oppressed will save you?" No one gets special dispensation from terror for being a good person, hence the need to attack with force. And sadly, this fact was proven once more.
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#2 Posted on 18.4.05 0636.40
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And aren't we shooing ourselves in the foot if our actions (whereever they are directed) only serve to create MORE terrorists?
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#3 Posted on 18.4.05 0945.04
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    Originally posted by DrOp
    And aren't we shooing ourselves in the foot if our actions (whereever they are directed) only serve to create MORE terrorists?


Not if we pretend like it doesn't happen.
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#4 Posted on 18.4.05 1452.32
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Where's the irony?

She was in a warzone and got killed. Car bombs don't selectively target those in support of the war. There is nothing unexpected or ironic about a humanitarian being killed in a warzone.
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#5 Posted on 18.4.05 1544.56
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    Originally posted by ShotGunShep
    Where's the irony?

    She was in a warzone and got killed. Car bombs don't selectively target those in support of the war. There is nothing unexpected or ironic about a humanitarian being killed in a warzone.


Agreed. And remember, we consider her a humanitarian. To many insurgents she is as culpable as we are. Her success is not their success. They did a feature on her life on NPR this morning and I think she was someone I would have liked to have known.
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#6 Posted on 18.4.05 1547.04
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I see the irony. Ahem... but thats just me.
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#7 Posted on 18.4.05 1637.55
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    Originally posted by WhoTookMyHonor?
    I see the irony. Ahem... but thats just me.
Please...share your wisdom with the rest of us (or don't bother posting at all).
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#8 Posted on 18.4.05 2220.20
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She's anti-war. She got killed in a war. That's ironic.
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#9 Posted on 18.4.05 2226.25
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    Originally posted by FurryHippie
    She's anti-war. She got killed in a war. That's ironic.
Sounds to me like a GOOD reason to be anti-war*

*also, not very ironic
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#10 Posted on 19.4.05 0021.22
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For those who need a refresher (with help from good ole Dictionary.com):

ironic also ironical
adj.
1. Characterized by or constituting irony.
2. Given to the use of irony. See Synonyms at sarcastic.
3. Poignantly contrary to what was expected or intended: madness, an ironic fate for such a clear thinker.

One does not expect a clear thinker to go mad. Just like it would be ironic for an AOL chatroom monitor to prey on the flock he swore to protect.
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#11 Posted on 19.4.05 0140.37
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Nope.

I'm still not seeing it.

It would be ironic if she had said "War can't possibly hurt a person." -- and then was killed in a war.

She said war was bad, and she ended up dying in a war. Sounds like her opinion was validated.

Irony depends on a juxtaposition of one event with another event of the opposite nature, if you look at it with the common definition. That's not what happened here.
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#12 Posted on 19.4.05 1043.27
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Blame Alanis Morissette. Thanks to her, for all intents and purposes, the definition of the word has become "weird and kind of a bummer" to the vast majority of people.
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#13 Posted on 19.4.05 1615.09
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Slow down, she wasnt an "Anti War activist". She even said so.Here is an article on her from 2003. Click Here (sfgate.com)

    Originally posted by Marla Ruzicka
    I decided not to take a position on the war but to try to do the right humanitarian thing




(edited by rockdotcom_2.0 on 19.4.05 1715)
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#14 Posted on 19.4.05 2129.45
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Why is everybody going nuts over this? Why must we dissect every aspect of the word "ironic" just to start an argument? I don't seem to get it.
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#15 Posted on 20.4.05 1039.19
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    Originally posted by FurryHippie
    Why is everybody going nuts over this? Why must we dissect every aspect of the word "ironic" just to start an argument? I don't seem to get it.
Well, obviously, because you keep "arguing" and you're wrong.

I'm not going NUTS over this, but a lot of people tend to just post whatever they feel like without putting any thought into what they're actually SAYING. Since I am an opponent of this behaviour, I tend to try to discourage it.
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#16 Posted on 21.4.05 2201.54
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Well, after ACTUALLY reading the article- it seems that the only irony here is that a member of the humanitarian group said it was a "tragic irony" when... it wasnt.(Tragic, but as we have concluded- not ironic)
There.. how's that Guru Zim? CRZ? Still bad?
Hm..
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