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#21 Posted on 31.3.05 0650.40
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Of course, you realize none of y'all were right last year. (The W)

Brewers improve by 15 games, Red Sox repeat. Howzat?

(edited by The Thrill on 31.3.05 0656)
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#22 Posted on 31.3.05 1039.13
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    Originally posted by The Thrill
    Of course, you realize none of y'all were right last year. (The W)

    Brewers improve by 15 games, Red Sox repeat. Howzat?

    (edited by The Thrill on 31.3.05 0656)


(psssst - nobody's gonna be right this year either)

I say the Cubs do about the same - but differently. Third straight season about 500, first time since the Stone Age, I think.

I see The Cards and the Angels in the Series, with the Cards winning it this year. Boston's going to retreat a little, and the Yanks never do. Yanks and Minnesota and Angels in the AL with the Sox as the Wild Card. Atlanta, Cards and San Diego in the NL with the Cubs as the WC.

(see about for my idea of my chances of being right)

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#23 Posted on 31.3.05 1223.56
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    Originally posted by It's False
      Originally posted by redsoxnation
      Anaheim/L.A./Guatalajara/whatever they call themselves this week: Surest bet in baseball is the Angels winning this division. Replacing Guillen's bat will be important, but should win this in a walk, as long as the starting pitching is better than mediocre. Around 100 wins, possibly 105.

      Los Angeles: Derek Lowe with that hideous infield defense could be hilarious. Lost a lot of offense from last season, and Gagne might have a setback season. .500 area.


    Anaheim will definitely not disappoint this season. Having rid themselves of albatrosses like Guillen, Glaus, and the oft-injured Percival, bolstering their defense with Orlando Cabrera, and improving their lineup with Steve Finley all with the combination of Oakland's offseason collapse makes them, as mentioned, the sure thing. A rotation that includes Bartolo Colon and Kelvim Escobar (who's much better than last year's record indicated. He lost a lost of close 1-0 duels last season) is something to be feared and if something goes wrong, don't think they won't bring in the new Weaver kid.

    The only concern is the departure of David Eckstein, which is largely symbolic. Eckstein was a major fan-favorite and a tremendous feel-good story. He was among the many represented the blue-collar Angel team that won it all in 2002. Eckstein wasn't the best, but he overcame his size and other shortcomings with more heart than anyone. His departure represents Anaheim shifting their focus to winning a championship the George Steinbrenner Way, by spending lots and lots of cash. And that's something I'm concerned about, as an Angel fan.



Well said about eckstein. He wasn't just a "fan favorite", he was one of my favorites. The "Whirly Bird" was great, and although you like a team doing what it takes to put themselves in a winning situation, i am really gonna miss eck and percy. glaus i can do without. this season will be interesting. expectations are VERY high. if the team doesn't perform im not sure what moreno will do next. im just gonna keep my fingers crossed and enjoy watching this awesome team.
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#24 Posted on 31.3.05 1423.36
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I said it last year, and I'll say it again this year. The Cards don't have the pitching. (Even with the addition of Mulder.) Morris is hurt, Carpenter couldn't make it to the end of the season last year, and I'm still waiting for the other shoe to drop on Marquis and Suppan. I'm fully aware that this is going to make me look like an ass if they win the division and CRZ pulls quotes from this thread.

That being said:


AL East
Yankees
Boston (wild card)
Baltimore
Toronto
Tampa Bay


AL Central
Minnesota
White Sox
Cleveland
Detroit
Kansas City

AL West I think it'll play out close to this, but this is going to be one of the better divisions in baseball to watch.
Anaheim
Texas
Seattle
Oakland


NL East
Atlanta
Florida
Philly
Mets
Washington

NL Central
Cubs
St. Louis (Wild Card)
Houston
Milwaukee
Cincinnati
Pittsburgh

NL West
San Diego
Dodgers
Giants
Arizona
Colorado
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#25 Posted on 31.3.05 1614.44
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AL EAST
New York Yankees**
Boston Red Sox*
Baltimore Orioles
Toronto Blue Jays
Tampa Bay Devil Rays
NL EAST
Atlanta Braves
Florida Marlins
New York Mets
Washington Nationals
Philadelphia Phillies
AL CENTRAL
Minnesota Twins
Cleveland Indians
Detroit Tigers
Chicago White Sox
Kansas City Royals
NL CENTRAL
St. Louis Cardinals**
Houston Astros*
Chicago Cubs
Cincinnati Reds
Milwaukee Brewers
Pittsburgh Pirates
AL WEST
Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim
Oakland Athletics
Texas Rangers
Seattle Mariners
NL WEST
Los Angeles Dodgers
San Diego Padres
San Francisco Giants
Arizona Diamondbacks
Colorado Rockies

*Wild Card
**League-Best Record

WILD-CARD ROUND
Yankees over Twins in 4
Red Sox over Angels in 5
Cardinals over Dodgers in 4
Astros over Braves in 5
LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP SERIES
Yankees over Red Sox in 6
Astros over Cardinals in 7
WORLD SERIES
Yankees over Astros in 6
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#26 Posted on 31.3.05 1800.03
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The Mets should be fine. Piazza, Reyes, and Floyd are healthy. Pedro will have a big year. They can always trade for some middle relief. They still fall below Atlanta and Florida in that division, but the Phillies have nothing. The thing I like most about Atlanta is their top 4 of Furcal, Giles, and the Joneses.

For a darkhorse team I'll go with the White Sox over the Twins. I wouldn't count on Mauer and Morneau staying healthy and I'm not a fan of Radke.

I like the makeup of Chicago with veteran pitching and young hitters. I'd rank Garcia as their #1 ahead of Buerhle. Their lineup is stacked. I like the additions of Podsednik, Iguchi, and Pierzinski. Rowand is on the upside and Thomas can hit if he's not hurt.

St. Louis won't win a world series with LaRussa - he can't win in the postseason.

I'll take the Yankees over the Braves.

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#27 Posted on 31.3.05 2113.07
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    Originally posted by skorpio17
    St. Louis won't win a world series with LaRussa - he can't win in the postseason.


You are aware the LaRussa-led Cardinals won a pennant last year, right?
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#28 Posted on 31.3.05 2150.22
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    Originally posted by TheBucsFan
      Originally posted by skorpio17
      St. Louis won't win a world series with LaRussa - he can't win in the postseason.


    You are aware the LaRussa-led Cardinals won a pennant last year, right?


The 1989 Series never happened, either. If it did, the Giants won in four.
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#29 Posted on 31.3.05 2155.58
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    Originally posted by PeterStork
      Originally posted by TheBucsFan
        Originally posted by skorpio17
        St. Louis won't win a world series with LaRussa - he can't win in the postseason.


      You are aware the LaRussa-led Cardinals won a pennant last year, right?


    The 1989 Series never happened, either. If it did, the Giants won in four.






Outside of the earthquake Series, LaRussa is 1-12 in his career in World Series Games, 5-12 throwing that in the mix. 1 title in over a quarter of a century with predominantly above average teams does take some of the luster off of the George Will "genius" label for Tony.

(edited by redsoxnation on 31.3.05 2257)
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#30 Posted on 31.3.05 2201.54
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"Not a genius" and "can't win in the postseason" aren't the same thing. To say he can't win in the postseason goes against fact. He's won, I believe, five postseason series in five trips to the playoffs with the Cardinals (four NLDS and the NLCS last year). He's been to the World Series four times, winning once.

I mean, if LaRussa "can't win in the postseason," what is "winning in the postseason?"
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#31 Posted on 1.4.05 1239.10
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    Originally posted by skorpio17
    The Mets should be fine. Piazza, Reyes, and Floyd are healthy. Pedro will have a big year. They can always trade for some middle relief.
Innings per start last year:
Martinez - 33 starts, 217 IP - about 6.2 I/S
Glavine - 33/212.1 - about 6.1
Benson - 31/200.1 - about 6.1
Zambrano - 25/141 - about 5.2
Ishii - 31/172 - about 5.2

Mets projected bullpen: Looper (C), Mike DeJean, Bartolome Fortunato, Heath Bell, Dae Sung Koo, Matt Ginter, and Felix Heredia. There is probably not a worse bullpen in baseball, and these are the guys who are going to pitch the last 2.2 to 3 innings of every game? Their offense kicks insane ass, but that bullpen...
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#32 Posted on 2.4.05 1504.23
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A.L. East:

1. Red Sox
2. Yankees
3. Blue Jays
4. Orioles
5. Devil Rays

A.L. Central:

1. Twins
2. White Sox (Wildcard)
3. Tigers
4. Indians
5. Royals

A.L. West:

1. Angels
2. Rangers
3. A's
4. M's


N.L. East:

1. Braves
2. Marlins
3. Phillies
4. Mets
5. Nationals

N.L. Central

1. Cardinals
2. Astros (Wildcard)
3. Reds
4. Brewers
5. Cubs
6. Pirates

N.L. West

1. Padres
2. Dodgers
3. Giants
4. Diamondbacks
5. Rockies

A.L. Playoffs:
-Red Sox over White Sox in 5
-Twins over Angels in 5
-ALCS: Red Sox over Twins in 6

N.L. Playoffs:
-Braves over Astros in 6
-Cardinals over Padres in 5
-NLCS: Cardinals over Braves in 6

World Series:
-Cardinals over Red Sox in 7

Yes, I think the Blue Jays will do much better without Delgado than with him, but third place is as good as they can hope for.

EDIT: Whoops, forgot to delete geemoney's stuff when I quoted him.

(edited by Freeway420 on 3.4.05 2330)
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#33 Posted on 2.4.05 2250.35
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    Originally posted by Freeway420
    The Mets will somehow screw things up (they always do),


Did the Mets make some bad moves the past couple of years? Sure, but they don't screw things up EVERY year, they were just in the World Series in 2000. That's more recent than most of the teams in baseball including the "win every year" Braves.
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#34 Posted on 6.4.05 1832.38
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AL East
New York, Toronto, Boston, Baltimore, Tampa Bay

AL Central
Cleveland, Minnesota, Detroit, Chicago, Kansas City

AL West
LAoA, Seattle, Oakland, Texas

NL East
Atlanta, Florida, New York, Philly, Washington

NL Central
St. Louis, Chicago, Houston, Cincy, Milwaukee, Pittsburgh

NL West
San Diego, LAD, San Fran, Arizona, Colorado


My serious World Series pick: Marlins over Yankees
My crazy World Series pick: Dodgers over Indians
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#35 Posted on 7.4.05 1440.03
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... A little late, but here goes nothing:

SENIOR CIRCUIT

East -- Braves, Phillies, Mets, Marlins, Nats

Central -- Astros, Cardinals(W), Cubs, Brewers, Pirates, Reds

West -- Dodgers, Giants, Padres, Snakes, Rocks

Incidentally, these picks in this thread of "Padres finish over Dodgers" are some of the most laughable I've seen in quite some time.

JUNIOR CIRCUIT

East -- Yankees, Bosox, Orioles, Jays, Rays

Central -- Twins, Indians, Chisox, Royals, Tigers

West -- L.A. Angels of Garden Grove, Mariners(W), Rangers, Beans

A.L. Playoffs:
-Yankees over Mariners in 4
-Angels over Twins in 3
-ALCS: Angels over Yankees in 6

N.L. Playoffs:
-Cardinals over Braves in 5
-Dodgers over Astros in 4
-NLCS: Cardinals over Dodgers in 6

World Series:
-Angels over Cardinals in 6


(edited by J.T. Dutch on 8.4.05 1056)
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#36 Posted on 7.4.05 1716.27
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    Originally posted by J.T. Dutch
    Incidentally, these picks in this thread of "Padres finish over Dodgers" are some of the most laughable I've seen in quite some time.


Well i's pretty obvious you are a Dodgers fans, but I'll back you up on that one. If I remember correctly the Dodgers only really lacked offense last year. They added J.D. Drew and Jeff Kent, maybe they aren't superstars and maybe they got too much money, but the Dodgers did improve. They also added Derek Lowe. You can correct me If i'm missing somebody but I don't recall the Padres adding anyone significant. So I don't know how it makes sense that the Dodgers won the divison last year and got better and the Padres finished third and stayed the same but are now somehow better. I do like the changes the Giants made, I thought the Giants were going to win by a few games until I found out Bonds would miss some, now I think the Dodgers win the division.

Well, might as well give my other picks while I'm here I guess
NL East
1. Marlins
2. Mets (WC)
3. Braves
4. Nationals
5. Phillies

NL Central
1. Cardinals
2. A five way tie between Cubs, Pirates, Brewers, Astros and Reds

NL West
1. Dodgers
2. Giants
3. Padres
4. Rockies
5. Diamondbacks

AL East
1. Yankees
2. Red Sox
3. Orioles
4. Devil Rays
5. Blue Jays

Al Central
1. Indians
2. Tigers
3. Indians
4. White Sox
5. Royals

AL West
1. Angels
2. A's
3. Rangers
4. Mariners

(edited by Quezzy on 7.4.05 1517)
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#37 Posted on 7.4.05 1840.11
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    Originally posted by Quezzy
    Well i's pretty obvious you are a Dodgers fans, but I'll back you up on that one. If I remember correctly the Dodgers only really lacked offense last year. They added J.D. Drew and Jeff Kent, maybe they aren't superstars and maybe they got too much money, but the Dodgers did improve. They also added Derek Lowe.


I don't think the Dodgers improved. (I also didn't like the moves the Giants made in the offseason.)

The Dodgers have weakened their infield defense (replacing Cora with Kent and Beltre with Valentin), and while they added Kent (old) and Drew (right up there with Griffey and Kearns in terms of staying healthy), they subtracted a Gold Glove caliber third baseman who had an MVP type year at the plate last year, and Shawn Green, who will probably have a better season than Big Choi. And the catcher position is just a huge black hole offensively. They went from having Bradley/Finley/Green/Werth in their outfield to having Drew/Bradley/Werth(injured)/Grabowski/Ricky Ledee. To me, that's a downgrade. Their pitching has a bunch of questions, even with Derek Lowe (he had a great post season, but has performed nowhere near his 2002 Cy Young Season, and benefitted from an incredible Boston offense. Brad Penny still isn't healthy, Eric Gagne is recovering from a knee injury (and now also an elbow injury - no timetable has been set for his return yet,) Odalis Perez, who was victimized by terrible run support last year, Wilson Alvarez, who I guess is going to be their #5 guy is currently on the DL.
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#38 Posted on 8.4.05 1215.50
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Dodgers by position, when healthy, from 04 to 05:

Phillips replacing Ross, C ... plus with bat, even with glove
Choi replacing Green, 1B ... minus with bat, plus with glove
Kent replacing Cora, 2B ... BIG plus with bat, minus with glove
Izturis, SS ... no change
Valentin replacing Beltre, 3B ... BIG minus with bat and glove
Werth, LF ... no change
Bradley, CF ... no change
Drew replacing Finley, RF ... plus with bat, minus with glove

Overall, 2 big minuses and 3 minuses -- 1 big plus and 3 pluses

I consider the bench to be slightly better, because it has guys who are hungry (like Perez, Grabowski, and Repko) instead of guys who are not (like Hernandez, Ventura, and Mayne).

Position players, overall, are not quite as good as a group as they were last year.

SP, Perez/Penny/Weaver/Alvarez ... no change
SP, Lowe replacing Ishii/Nomo ... plus
SP, Erickson replacing Lima ... tough to say, Lima was an unknown quantity at the beginning of 04, as Erickson is now. I tend to see a guy like Erickson being able to perform adequately enough, being a sinkerballer on grass in Dodger Stadium.

RP, Gagne/Brazoban/Carrara/Sanchez/Dessens ... no change
RP, Carlyle/Schmoll replacing Martin/Falkenborg ... plus

Pitchers, overall, are a little better than they were last year.

I don't think the Dodgers will suffer too greatly (if at all) from last season to this. The minor league system is good, has been for the last several years; for instance, the catcher position looks to be improved once Navarro reaches the majors.

The Padres had to improve markedly from 04 to 05 to match the Dodgers, and they didn't. If the Giants had Bonds all season, I might be worried, but they don't; they may not see Bonds for three months if they even see him at all in 05. The D-Backs and Rockies are not ready to challenge for the division at this point. So, yeah, the Dodgers still win it, imo.

EDIT: BucsFan, Guru -- Sorry, guys; changed the backgrounds. Still working on it.

(edited by J.T. Dutch on 8.4.05 1059)
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#39 Posted on 8.4.05 1231.51
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    Originally posted by J.T. Dutch
    ...


Can I just tell you that Dodger background makes your posts really hard to read, especially at the spot when the yellow text meets the white Dodger letters?
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#40 Posted on 8.4.05 1233.09
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    Originally posted by TheBucsFan
      Originally posted by J.T. Dutch
      ...


    Can I just tell you that Dodger background makes your posts really hard to read, especially at the spot when the yellow text meets the white Dodger letters?


I realize I'm setting a bad example by replying to the offtopic post, but I agree that the contrast ratio is not high enough between the background and your text color.
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