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#1 Posted on 22.3.05 0816.15
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http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Movies/03/22/film.church.reut/index.html

Thomas Haden Church is the villian, but they aren't saying who he is playing. He resembles Willem Dafoe enough to be an Osbourn relative. I don't think he has the physical size to be Venom. Any thoughts on what other Spidy villians he could be?
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#2 Posted on 22.3.05 0817.21
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How about Hobgoblin?
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#3 Posted on 22.3.05 0830.34
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I thought I read somwhere that Sam Raimi wanted The Lizard as the next villian...
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#4 Posted on 22.3.05 0911.44
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    Originally posted by Jobberman
    I thought I read somwhere that Sam Raimi wanted The Lizard as the next villian...

That makes sense. He looks enough like, but is more of a "name" than Dylan Baker (IMDB), who played Curt Connors in Spider-Man 2.

(edited by SchippeWreck on 22.3.05 0712)
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#5 Posted on 22.3.05 0913.16
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There's also been internet talk of Black Widow as well. Maybe they're be going the 2 villan route a la Batman Returns.
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#6 Posted on 22.3.05 0921.33
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Maybe the villian in #3 will be a slow airplane mechanic...
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#7 Posted on 22.3.05 0928.11
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    Originally posted by jfkfc
    Maybe the villian in #3 will be a slow airplane mechanic...


By that rationale, the villians in the first two movies should have been...

#1- Jesus
#2- Coked-up, wearing a silk bathrobe, armed to the teeth and obsessed over the song "Sister Christian" by Night Ranger.

Either of those movies I would have paid to see. :)
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#8 Posted on 22.3.05 0958.39
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    Originally posted by Blanket Jackson
    #2- Coked-up, wearing a silk bathrobe, armed to the teeth and obsessed over the song "Sister Christian" by Night Ranger.


I was actually picturing the villian in #2 as a Jew from Anatefka who was wishing he was rich, having seen Fiddler on the Roof with my then girlfriend a week before Spiderman 2 came out... :-)
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#9 Posted on 22.3.05 1101.58
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    Originally posted by Mayhem

    There's also been internet talk of Black Widow as well. Maybe they're be going the 2 villan route a la Batman Returns.


I figured that would happen anyway...or are they gonna draw out Harry taking over as the Green Goblin again?

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#10 Posted on 22.3.05 1117.04
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Considering McGuire, Dunst, and Raimi have all stated that they don't want to do more than three Spider-Man movies, I don't see them dragging out Harry's story any further.
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#11 Posted on 22.3.05 1135.50
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I've only heard Dunst say she's done with Spider-Man. When did the other two say they wanted out?

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#12 Posted on 22.3.05 1143.48
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    Originally posted by Mayhem

    There's also been internet talk of Black Widow as well. Maybe they're be going the 2 villan route a la Batman Returns.

Small trivial point, but I believe it's actually the Black CAT. Both characters are hotsy totsy broads in black outfits, so the confusion is understandable. Black Cat is the Catwoman rip-off who used to fight Spidey, until she did a face turn and became his girlfriend for a bit. Black Widow is the former Iron Man communist/cold war villain who also did a face turn, messed with Hawkeye, shacked up with Daredevil and became an Avenger.

Some of the Black Cat rumors are based on speculation over the landlord's daughter in Spider-Man 2. There was also a rumor two years ago that Eliza Dushku was connected to the role.
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#13 Posted on 22.3.05 1232.43
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CONFIRMED (or all but) AS RETURNING: Tobey Maguire [Peter Parker/Spider-Man], James Franco [Harry Osborn], Kirsten Dunst [Mary Jane Watson], Bruce Campbell, J.K. Simmons [J. Jonah Jameson], Thomas Haden Church [villain (Sandman, Venom or Hobgoblin)],
PROBABLY RETURNING: Dylan Baker [Curt Connors], Rosemary Harris [May Parker], Daniel Gillies [John Jameson], Bill Nunn [Joe Robertson], Ted Raimi [Hoffman] & Elizabeth Banks [Betty Brant]

CREW: Sam Raimi [Director], Alvin Sargent [Writer], Scott Stokdyk & Anthony LaMolinara [Visual Effects]

NOTES:
-"I'd probably make as many Spider-Man movies as they would ask me." - Sam Raimi (Feb 1, 2005) on how many sequels he's going to make.
-"If I have the same passion after this (Spider-Man 3), I would love to direct (No. 4) and hope they would ask me." - Sam Raimi (Dec 1, 2004) on sequels.
-Tobey Maguire has said that he's not signed beyond #3, but if the script and money was right he'd stick around. Kirsten Dunst has said she's gone as soon as #3's done.
-Villainous speculation has settled between The Hobgoblin, The Sandman & Venom. Raimi says he likes the Sandman, everyone wants Venom, and Hobgoblin makes sense (in that he's not an Osborn).

(edited by Freeway420 on 22.3.05 1149)
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#14 Posted on 22.3.05 1241.18
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Sandman seems to be the road they're taking. Venom's just out-THC is far too old for the role, there's a shitload of backstory tht'd have to be covered, and Raimi doesn't like the character. Hobgoblin's possibility, but if they were gonna go the second-goblin route they'd have stuck with Harry, and besides, I don't think they're keen on going back to the problems they had with the costume design on part one. Sandman seems the next logical choice-it's the character Church most resembles, it's a potential CGI orgy, and Maguire's gone on record as lobbying for the concept to be used.

EDIT: Holy crap, you know who else THC kinda looks like? Cletus Kasady. Would Raimi possibly go for Carnage?

(edited by oldschoolhero on 22.3.05 1103)
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#15 Posted on 22.3.05 1347.03
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I guess I have to eat my words on Raimi, but I could have sworn I saw an interview where he said he was gone after three.
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#16 Posted on 22.3.05 1645.52
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Raimi doesn't like Venom. I don't see how anyone who doesn't like Venom could even *stand* Carnage. After the first two films, are we really ready to jump to the "Super powered mass murderer" stage just yet?

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#17 Posted on 22.3.05 1744.43
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If Larry David actually shows up for a cameo as the Vulture, this will automatically be the best movie of all time.
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#18 Posted on 22.3.05 1754.28
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SPIDER-MAN [Released May 3, 2002]
-Cost $139 million (plus $50 million for marketing)
-Made $403 million domestically (plus $418 million overseas)
-Green Goblin as villain, Bruce Campbell as ring announcer
-6th highest grossing film of all-time (domestically)
-Highest opening weekend of all-time

SPIDER-MAN 2 [Released June 30, 2004]
-Cost $200 million (plus $50 million for marketing)
-Made $373 million domestically (plus 410 million overseas)
-Doctor Octopus as villain, Bruce Campbell as snooty usher
-8th highest grossing film of all-time (domestically)
-7th highest opening weekend of all-time

SPIDER-MAN 3 [Release scheduled for May 4, 2007]
-Probably will end up costing around $210 million
-Will probably end up making around $350 million domestically
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#19 Posted on 22.3.05 1958.01
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David's alleged cameo as Vulture makes me think....what if the villains for Spidey 3 are actually the Sinister Six, except with Goblin Harry taking over Doc Ock's role as the organizer? Vulture (David), Sandman (Church), and then you can have loads of fun with Electro, Kraven and Mysterio.
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#20 Posted on 23.3.05 0125.34
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Nah, Sinister Six would be too complex to pull off. Raimi seems to like the more simplistic approch. Here's something that came to me earlier: With David rumored for a cameo as the Vulture....maybe THC's playing the younger Vulture? They'd need two actors to pull that off, right?
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