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#1 Posted on 21.3.05 0913.19
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Just noticed this item on the newswires:



STAMFORD, Conn.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--March 21, 2005
A momentous WWE event just got even bigger. World
Wrestling Entertainment(R) announced today that movie superstar Sylvester Stallone will be on hand to induct legendary WWE Superstar Hulk Hogan into the WWE Hall of Fame on Saturday night, April 2, 2005.

Stallone, best known for his portrayals of iconic roles in the series of Rocky and Rambo motion pictures, is currently the co-host of the NBC hit reality series, The Contender (Sunday, 8 p.m. ET) Stallone first met Hogan when he cast him in the memorable role of "Thunderlips" in Rocky III.

The Universal Amphitheatre in Los Angeles will be the site of the induction ceremony. The WWE Hall of Fame Induction is an official WrestleMania Week Event in Southern California; a capacity crowd from 14 countries and 48 states will be attending WrestleMania 21 on Sunday, April 3, at STAPLES Center in Los Angeles. Although tickets
for WrestleMania 21 are no longer available, seats for the WWE Hall of Fame induction are available at Ticketmaster.com or by calling Ticketmaster at 213-480-3232.

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#2 Posted on 21.3.05 0919.59
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You just beat me to the punch.

I didn't see that one coming at all. I guess it makes sense, but I'd have much rather seen Vince or Mean Gene do it.
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#3 Posted on 21.3.05 1539.58
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    Originally posted by Mayhem

    You just beat me to the punch.

    I didn't see that one coming at all. I guess it makes sense, but I'd have much rather seen Vince or Mean Gene do it.

I'd like to see Superstar Billy Graham do it, if only so he could say, "If not for me, this guy wouldn't have a gimmick!"
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#4 Posted on 21.3.05 1547.13
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I would humbly suggest Evad present Hogan for the HoF.
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#5 Posted on 21.3.05 2045.19
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Any official news on who is inducting Volkoff?
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#6 Posted on 21.3.05 2250.38
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Are Hogan and Stallone actually close and are friends, or is this just a "you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours" situation where WWE and Hogan get media publicity in getting Stallone there for the induction, and Stallone gets another forum to push his new boxing reality television program.

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#7 Posted on 22.3.05 0025.06
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I don't think they share a sleeping bag, but they did run together for a while in LA in the 80's, and probably just kept in contact. Stallone's show is on network television and is being pushed by millions of corporate advertising, I doubt he sees this a marketing coup and probably is doing it as a favour to Hogan.

Vince doing it would require Vince showing up on TV wheelchair bound, and I don't think anyone wants that. It's nice to get outside stars to do it, instead of just wrestling personalities because it gives it a more important feel. I mean, it's the Hall of Fame, not the RAW Tenth Anniversary Special. And since Hogan epitomized the "going mainstream" tilt of wrestling during that era he more than anyone fits best with an outside personality doing to the induction.
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#8 Posted on 22.3.05 0430.33
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    Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad
    I don't think they share a sleeping bag, but they did run together for a while in LA in the 80's, and probably just kept in contact. Stallone's show is on network television and is being pushed by millions of corporate advertising, I doubt he sees this a marketing coup and probably is doing it as a favour to Hogan.




From Wade Keller's "RAW Report" on PWTorch.com:

> An official announcement was made that Sylvester Stallone would be inducting Hulk Hogan into the WWE Hall of Fame. They gave a full-fledged plug to the boxing reality show Stallone cohosts, certainly part of the deal to get him to be at the induction ceremony. <
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#9 Posted on 22.3.05 0844.02
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This also probably came about from the newfound synergy of RAW moving to NBC's USA Network & The Contender being on NBC...
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#10 Posted on 22.3.05 1141.15
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    Originally posted by Guru Zim
    Any official news on who is inducting Volkoff?


WWE.com has all the names they're inductng and the inductors in the 'Hall of Fame' section. Here's the list.

HULK HOGAN - Sylvester Stallone
RODDY PIPER- Stone Cold Steve Austin
NIKOLAI VOLKOFF - Jim Ross
JIMMY HART - Jerry "The King" Lawler
BOB ORTON JR. - Randy Orton
PAUL ORNDORFF - Bobby Heenan
THE IRON SHEIK - Sgt. Slaughter
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#11 Posted on 22.3.05 1154.18
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    NIKOLAI VOLKOFF - Jim Ross


Slight step down from Gordon Solie.
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#12 Posted on 22.3.05 1335.52
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    Originally posted by mercer
    I'd like to see Superstar Billy Graham do it, if only so he could say, "If not for me, this guy wouldn't have a gimmick!"


Yeah, right.

More like: "If not for this guy, nobody would remember I had a gimmick, let alone existed."
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#13 Posted on 22.3.05 1337.49
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    Originally posted by NickBockwinkelFan
      Originally posted by mercer
      I'd like to see Superstar Billy Graham do it, if only so he could say, "If not for me, this guy wouldn't have a gimmick!"


    Yeah, right.

    More like: "If not for this guy, nobody would remember I had a gimmick, let alone existed."
You know, there are LOTS of people who watched wrestling before the 1980s. These people should be respected, not forgotten.

EDIT: Or, if you prefer a different sort of counterargument: Who the hell is "Nick Bockwinkel?"

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#14 Posted on 22.3.05 1429.34
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    Originally posted by CRZ
      Originally posted by NickBockwinkelFan
        Originally posted by mercer
        I'd like to see Superstar Billy Graham do it, if only so he could say, "If not for me, this guy wouldn't have a gimmick!"


      Yeah, right.

      More like: "If not for this guy, nobody would remember I had a gimmick, let alone existed."
    You know, there are LOTS of people who watched wrestling before the 1980s. These people should be respected, not forgotten.

    EDIT: Or, if you prefer a different sort of counterargument: Who the hell is "Nick Bockwinkel?"

    (edited by CRZ on 22.3.05 1338)


My comment was more directed at the mentality that Hogan's a joke and that he "stole" Graham's gimmick. I do respect Graham, and my post was more a defense of Hogan than an attack on Graham. Many of the older wrestlers have contempt for Hogan and the success he attained, Graham included. Nobody's going to confuse Hogan or Graham with Benoit or Misawa in the worker department, but that isn't why these guys were over. I grew up watching wrestling in the 1970's and have a great deal of respect for the guys then, some are my all-time favorites. The level of wrestling in the WWWF/WWF was very low compared to the AWA (Minneapolis, Chicago, Milwaukee, Indianapolis), St.Louis, the Carolinas, the Mid-South or San Francisco. I really loved this time with the great promos and long matches with great workers (re-vitalized in the current WWE with Benoit, Angle, Eddie, Brock and yes...HHH). I remember this time and the great wrestlers who made it memorable, especially the AWA guys like Ray Stevens, Nick Bockwinkel, Pat Patterson, Wilbur Snider, Dick the Bruiser, the Crusher and Mad Dog Vachon. Stevens, Bockwinkel, Patterson and Snider were great wrestlers. Bruiser, Crusher and Vachon were super over personalities. Graham definitely falls into this latter category. A strong personality who cut great promos with a phenomenal look. It's no accident that every clip they ever show of Graham is of him posing, not wrestling. This is no attack on him as he was a totaly over hot heel who was limited in the ring.

The body builder gimmick was not exclusively Graham's as it was a long time staple of wrestling going back to the 1930's. He cut great promos and had more charisma than anyone in the the WWF during his run with the exception of Bruno. Graham's influence upon Hogan was undeniable, but to say that "gimmick infringement" is the reason for Hogan's success it ignorant. Hogan had not only ten-fold the charisma of Graham, but also that intangible quality that appeals to non-fans that made him a huge star.

I know that slamming Hogan is the gold standard of "smart fans", and nothing will change that, but he's still going to get the biggest pop at Mania.

As far as Nick Bockwinkel is concerned, the parallels to HHH are pretty similar:

Biggest heel in the company
Sneering, condescending promos that everyone hates
Great worker
Heat machine
Always has the belt

The interest in wrestling is the chase for the belt. Once a "face" has the belt, the angle is over. It has nowhere to go. See: the classic Benoit build-up and payoff last year, perfectly done.

I don't like HHH, but he's a heel and I'm not supposed to.



(edited by NickBockwinkelFan on 22.3.05 1625)
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#15 Posted on 22.3.05 2021.15
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    Originally posted by thecubsfan

      NIKOLAI VOLKOFF - Jim Ross


    Slight step down from Gordon Solie.






Ross makes no sense. Since they can't use Blassie or Sheik, why not Tor Kamata, Chris Markoff or even Boris Zukhov? Hell, even Duggan or DiBiase would make far more sense than Ross.
And, I know they have Austin on Piper's Pit at Mania, but have they actually ever interacted in their wrestling careers? Even when both were in the WWF/E, one was on RAW and the other SD after the brand split had been established. Considering all of the possibilities who had some sort of connection to Piper: Flair/Arn/Steamboat etc., this doesn't make much sense.
Hopefully, with Slaughter introducing Sheik, it will focus on the 80's feud between the 2, and not on Sheik joining Slaughter in becoming Iraqis.
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#16 Posted on 22.3.05 2243.36
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    Originally posted by redsoxnation
      Originally posted by thecubsfan

        NIKOLAI VOLKOFF - Jim Ross


      Slight step down from Gordon Solie.






    Ross makes no sense. Since they can't use Blassie or Sheik...


I thought for sure you'd mention Steve Allen as one of the "unavailable". :)
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#17 Posted on 22.3.05 2318.52
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    Originally posted by AMG2K2
    RODDY PIPER- Stone Cold Steve Austin
That's kinda weird, I would have figured Flair for sure. Or Dirk Benedict, natch.
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#18 Posted on 22.3.05 2356.31
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If anybody is in Southern California and wants to go to the HOF ceremony, it's at the Universal Ampitheatre:

Universal Amphitheatre
100 Universal City Plaza
Universal City, CA 91608
818.622.4440

price : $35.00 - $85.00 *
date : Sat, April 02
door : 4:15pm
show : 5:15pm
genre : Special Event/Rental

age : all

notes :: WWE Superstars being inducted into the Hall of Fame:

Hulk Hogan inducted by Sylvester Stallone
Rowdy Roddy Piper inducted by Stone Cold Steve Austin
Cowboy Bob Orton inducted by his son Randy Orton
Jimmy "The Mouth of the South" Hart inducted by Jerry "The King" Lawler
"Mr. Wonderful" Paul Orndorff inducted by Bobby "The Brain" Heenan
The Iron Sheik inducted by Sgt. Slaughter
Nikolai Volkoff inducted by Jim Ross

Stay tuned to WWE programming for additional announcements of inductees into the WWE Hall of Fame.

Make your plans NOW to join us for this memorable, once-in-a-lifetime event, as we honor our WWE Hall of Fame Inductees and celebrate the WrestleMania 21 Week-end.

Click Here (hob.com) to get tickets...
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#19 Posted on 23.3.05 0104.02
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    Originally posted by Kevintripod
      Originally posted by Hogan's My Dad
      I don't think they share a sleeping bag, but they did run together for a while in LA in the 80's, and probably just kept in contact. Stallone's show is on network television and is being pushed by millions of corporate advertising, I doubt he sees this a marketing coup and probably is doing it as a favour to Hogan.




    From Wade Keller's "RAW Report" on PWTorch.com:

    > An official announcement was made that Sylvester Stallone would be inducting Hulk Hogan into the WWE Hall of Fame. They gave a full-fledged plug to the boxing reality show Stallone cohosts, certainly part of the deal to get him to be at the induction ceremony. <



He phrased that as an assumption, so you haven't proven anything. And yes, I'm sure that was part of the deal just not the only reason he's doing it.
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