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#1 Posted on 12.3.05 1838.57
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So in an interview with the Washington Times (washtimes.com) Condoleezza Rice was asked about her interest in running for President and her stance on abortion. Two quotes from the article:

    Originally posted by Condoleezza Rice's interview
    She was then pressed on whether she would rule out a White House bid by reprising Gen. William T. Sherman's 1884 declaration: "If nominated, I will not run; if elected, I will not serve." "Well, that's not fair," she protested with a chuckle. "The last thing I can I really can't imagine it."

    Miss Rice said abortion should be "as rare a circumstance as possible," although without excessive government intervention. "We should not have the federal government in a position where it is forcing its views on one side or the other.


While saying one has no interest is part of any high-level official's routine when asked about running for President, the second quote greatly intrigues me. I wonder if her steadfast loyalty to Bush and willingness to very quietly eat a lot of blame for the Iraq WMD debacle that she could easily have punted elsewhere would be enough to let the most important parts of Bush's base see past her stance on the critical issue of abortion. I personally can't imagine her getting through a primary season with that, no matter what else she might have to say. It seems impossible to me that she could get any support in the South and the Midwest in GOP primaries as a pro-choice candidate, no matter how mildly so.


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#2 Posted on 12.3.05 1921.14
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On the Sherman quote: It really is moot at this point, as with the current primary system it is a virtual impossibility to get nominated without vigorous campaigning, let alone getting the nomination without wanting it.
At this point, 2008 would be very doubtful for Rice just due to the logistics of being Secretary of State. Unless she were to leave the office by mid '07, she wouldn't have the ability to run a campaign while simultaneously functioning in her current position.
And, as a limited government conservative, Rice's wanting to limit the scope of the federal government is fine with me.
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#3 Posted on 12.3.05 2106.54
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    Originally posted by spf
    I wonder if her steadfast loyalty to Bush and willingness to very quietly eat a lot of blame for the Iraq WMD debacle that she could easily have punted elsewhere would be enough to let the most important parts of Bush's base see past her stance on the critical issue of abortion. I personally can't imagine her getting through a primary season with that, no matter what else she might have to say. It seems impossible to me that she could get any support in the South and the Midwest in GOP primaries as a pro-choice candidate, no matter how mildly so.


Baldly put, there's no way Dr. Rice survives the GOP primary season as a pro-choice candidate, no matter how mild her position may be. Abortion is just too much of a litmus test for both parties, witness the Tim Roemer NARAL debacle on the other side of the aisle, for either party to allow a Presidential candidate to be an heretic.

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#4 Posted on 13.3.05 1144.48
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    Originally posted by spf
    "We should not have the federal government in a position where it is forcing its views on one side or the other. "

    While saying one has no interest is part of any high-level official's routine when asked about running for President, the second quote greatly intrigues me. I wonder if her steadfast loyalty to Bush and willingness to very quietly eat a lot of blame for the Iraq WMD debacle that she could easily have punted elsewhere would be enough to let the most important parts of Bush's base see past her stance on the critical issue of abortion. I personally can't imagine her getting through a primary season with that, no matter what else she might have to say. It seems impossible to me that she could get any support in the South and the Midwest in GOP primaries as a pro-choice candidate, no matter how mildly so.



That'd be Bush's stance as well, guys, He's all about repealing Roe Vs Wade and letting the states dictate abortion rights. The Feds have no right to be involved in this decision. The States do the medical stuff and individual laws. I feel this is much like the anti-smoking rules - states can make that decision for themselves.

Now is it an important decision? Yes. Would it make Abortion more difficult for some? Probably. I think Rice is right on in her stance.

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#5 Posted on 14.3.05 0010.33
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Man, Hillary vs. Condi in 2008? Catfight! Catfight! [/Kramer]
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#6 Posted on 14.3.05 0946.29
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I'm surprsied nobody has pointed out the fact that she's a black female. I realize it is a typical stereotype but a great deal of Southern Christian Republicans would never even consider it.
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#7 Posted on 14.3.05 1104.23
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    Originally posted by LionJeetSingh
    I'm surprsied nobody has pointed out the fact that she's a black female. I realize it is a typical stereotype but a great deal of Southern Christian Republicans would never even consider it.


You may be right. I would add in she ha never been married and there are some "questions" regarding her sexuality.
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