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The 7 - Pro Wrestling - WWE's Finest Pure Athlete
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#1 Posted on 19.2.05 1300.08
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JR has decided to hang this title on Shelton Benjamin and, seeing his leaping ability, I don't blame him.

Who are the other contenders for this status?

Jim Ross used to talk about Billy Gunn in the same fashion, I believe. Has anyone else ever been tagged with this moniker?
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#2 Posted on 19.2.05 1331.27
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They probably tagged Kurt Angle with that once or twice before, although I'd be hard pressed to remember a specific instance.
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#3 Posted on 19.2.05 1344.15
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    Jim Ross used to talk about Billy Gunn in the same fashion, I believe. Has anyone else ever been tagged with this moniker?


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#4 Posted on 19.2.05 1346.41
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Some others I've heard: Batista, Charllie Hass, Randy Orton, John Cena, Kurt Angle, Mark Jindrak, Michael Cole. (kidding on that last one, HA!)

Yeah, J.R. used to try and get Mr. Ass over in every match he had by saying he was the best pure athlete in the WWF.
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#5 Posted on 19.2.05 2252.58
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For a long time, the British Bulldog was "pound for pound the greatest athlete in the WWF today." I don't think they've used pound for pound since, except maybe for Spike Dudley.
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#6 Posted on 20.2.05 0138.20
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Tazz uses 'Pound For Pound' all the time when talking about either Spike Dudley or Rey Jr.

I always took the "Best Pure Athlete" tag as a way of Jim Ross saying "We don't know what to do with this guy. We give up. He has no personality. We can't care about him, so maybe you shouldn't waste your time or energy caring about him either." It's certainly quicker to say, and for about 99% of the time when it's used, it's pretty accurate.


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#7 Posted on 23.2.05 0051.31
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Benjamin had some good interviews in tapes I've seen of his pre-WWE work, still wondering why they don't let him on the mic more. I only saw a couple as I've not an avid tape collector/viewer, but I liked what I heard (and naturally what I saw). I think they could have done better than making him the underdog right away against HHH when he hit Raw.
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#8 Posted on 23.2.05 0927.34
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I don't think the "pure athlete" moniker is always a code for jobber. Largely because I quite clearly remember J.R. using it for HBK in the pre-injury days, usually whenever he would do the skin the cat maneuver.

I think Shelton's probably got the most right to the title currently. Eddie Guerrero's the only other guy who springs to mind right off the bat. I'm surprised he doesn't use it for Orton. I mean, he has the same qualification for it that Billy Gunn did: he can jump really high.
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#9 Posted on 23.2.05 1633.26
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I can't help but think I heard this term used for HARDCORE HOLLY at one point.
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#10 Posted on 23.2.05 1640.47
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Seems to me I also heard it about MAVEN shortly after he won Tough Enough One.
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#11 Posted on 24.2.05 0057.01
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Well, Shelton is a valid arguemnt for the best pure athlete. He was in track, wrestling, and I believe football. Lance Storm was also a great pure athlete. Billy Gunn has been stated as one of the WWE's best pure athlete's before and he was actually. Jindrak has an incredible jumping ability as well as agility. Mr. Perfect also got tagged with that name too. But overall, the best pure athlete would probably go to Shelton Benjamin (IMO).
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#12 Posted on 24.2.05 0132.06
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    Originally posted by hartattack
    Well, Shelton is a valid arguemnt for the best pure athlete. He was in track, wrestling, and I believe football. Lance Storm was also a great pure athlete. Billy Gunn has been stated as one of the WWE's best pure athlete's before and he was actually. Jindrak has an incredible jumping ability as well as agility. Mr. Perfect also got tagged with that name too. But overall, the best pure athlete would probably go to Shelton Benjamin (IMO).


Q: HOW, per ce, do you define "pure athlete"? How do you define "athlete"?

There's widespread reports of steroid use or suspected steroid use throughout the realm of professional wrestling. Does that taint the term "pure"? Does something as generic as "jumping ability" conotate general athletic ability? And the Shelton Benjamin argument of being part of different collegiate athletic programs is also countered by guys like Goldberg, Bradshaw & The Rock all being on their collegiate football teams. Kurt Angle, Brock Lesnar, Charlie Haas & Shelton Benjamin all wrestled during college. Does that make them better athletes than the rest?
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#13 Posted on 24.2.05 0843.28
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I seem to recall in an interview that Billy Gunn said that he would always win in any pick-up game of any sport against any of the other wrestlers. Sometimes this backstage stuff creeps onto the broadcast.
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#14 Posted on 25.2.05 0118.24
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    Originally posted by Freeway420
    Q: HOW, per ce, do you define "pure athlete"? How do you define "athlete"?


Well, in baseball, you have prospects who show actually skill and you have "tools" prospects who have the raw athletic ability such as running, strength, etc. without necessarily being able to utilize it. Basically, think who would put up the best numbers like 40 time if they went to the NFL combine.
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#15 Posted on 28.2.05 1421.29
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    Originally posted by Central Park Jobber
    I seem to recall in an interview that Billy Gunn said that he would always win in any pick-up game of any sport against any of the other wrestlers. Sometimes this backstage stuff creeps onto the broadcast.


I actually read an article with another wrestler (and it's killing me I can't remember who it was) that stated the same thing. They were laughing about how The Rock was trying to find SOMETHING to beat Gunn at since he had lost to him in a foot race, pick up basketball and horse shoes. I'll have to look and see what I can find on it.
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