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#1 Posted on 9.2.05 2352.57
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David Cross just said it on Jimmy Kimmel's show.

If it is true, I'm just going to snap.

*EDIT - Take this with a grain of salt. I guess details will emerge in the following days if this is correct.


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#2 Posted on 10.2.05 0027.57
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Yeah, we were talking about this in the American Dad thread. Not "cancelled," per gay, but the Cock-Suckers cut the production order by 4 episodes. But if David just read about it on the internet, as he said, then he wouldn't know anything official yet. I'm guessing, and flailing despairingly, at this point, but I guess the season will just end abruptly with episode 18 at the end of April. As far as what that means for next season, I dare not speculate. I'm having a hard enough time dealing with them fucking up this season, which is devastating considering how all the episodes tie into each other and last year they all built towards the big finale. Now I guess they can't; awesome. I just want to puke all over their heads, sir. What a fun week Jason Bateman will have promoting the show on Conan and SNL.

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#3 Posted on 10.2.05 0726.50
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Meanwhile, even after 5 months, the DVD set of Season 1 is still in the top 100 of Amazon's Bestsellers.

Fuckers. There are dozens of us, DOZENS!
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#4 Posted on 10.2.05 0738.33
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I wonder if this show could survive on Comedy Central? And by "survive" I mean can Comedy Central afford it?
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#5 Posted on 10.2.05 0837.29
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It's always interesting to see how fast a network kills a show when they find out I like it.
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#6 Posted on 10.2.05 1136.53
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Why? That's all I can ask, why?
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#7 Posted on 10.2.05 1405.55
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Fox seems to be brilliant at cancelling good shows in order to start up shitty ones. I don't get the mentality, but I guess that's why I'm not running a television network.
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#8 Posted on 10.2.05 1406.34
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For the love of Christ. It's one of the most critically-acclaimed comedies in history. It's had unprecedented success with a cult audience. It's only one nd a half seasons in. And they're pulling the plug?! Afte rno real visible marketing push? What the fuck is wrong with this network? It just....beggars belief. It really does.
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#9 Posted on 10.2.05 1422.04
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Just to be clear, I should reiterate that Fox hasn't *cancelled* the show, but episode reductions are not the most positive messages you can receive. (And from an aesthetic standpoint, I hate to imagine how bad cutting from 22 to 18 will affect their plans.) Anyway, we still won't know officially until May.
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#10 Posted on 10.2.05 1422.51
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OK...here's your options.

E-MAIL GAIL BERMAN:

Gail Berman is the President of FOX Broadcasting. E-mail her at gail.berman@fox.com. Be polite, but direct.

WRITE GAIL BERMAN A LETTER:

Gail Berman
Fox Broadcasting Entertainment President
Fox Headquarters
10201 West Pico Blvd
Los Angeles CA
90035.

or:

Gail Berman, President
Fox Broadcasting Company
P.O. Box 900
Beverly Hills, California
90213

Again, polite but direct.

CALL FOX:

Fox's Viewer Comment Hotline: 1-800-369-6848
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#11 Posted on 10.2.05 1636.13
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Thank you for your e-mail and your passionate support of Arrested Development. While the show has finished production for its second season, contrary to the rumors you may have heard or read on the internet, it is NOT cancelled.

We at FOX love Arrested Development and we look forward to having the Bluth family back on FOX in the future - hopefully for many years. You can help make the show a bigger success by getting as many people as possible to start watching the show this Sunday and every Sunday at 8:30 p.m. ET/PT.

Sincerely,
Fox Broadcasting Company



Bleh, we'll see. Nothing to do now but feel anxious for the next three months. And still no consolation for robbing me of 4 episodes.
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#12 Posted on 10.2.05 1922.17
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My biggest problem with Gail, the liar and coward, isn't her lack of support for the program as much as her inability to admit the network's lack of support.

The word at Fox's upfront last year was "we love Arrested and its continued existence was never in doubt!" Bullshit. This came after every show - literally - on Fox (save those already canceled months before, of course) was renewed in April with the exception of Tru Calling and Arrested Development. Gail waited until the upfront in mid-May to renew those two shows, as the network wanted to see if development was good enough to go a different direction. When the answer was "no," the shows were brought in off the bench. Nice support. If the plan was to renew Arrested all along, why not announce in April when you picked up all your other programs?

If you're going to dick around with your shows, have the balls to admit it. Peter Roth, now head of WB TV (the studio, not the network) and late of Fox Entertainment Group, was like that when he was in Gail's seat. He'd talk smack about the other networks (in 97, I believe, he did a joint presser with NBC to rag on CBS's poor 18-49 showing) and be very frank about Fox's programming. Now we have this shrew that gets promoted, gives an outright lie (referring to the network's HORRIBLE handling of Keen Eddie, she blamed it on predecessor Sandy Grushow and promised that new, critically acclaimed shows would get a chance to find an audience --- Wonderfalls proved that to be a lie) and drags Fox down to its worst. programming. ever. Meanwhile, ratings are down.

The question isn't if American Dad will score higher Nielsens than Arrested Development, but whether Nanny Reality Show #12 will score higher ratings than Arrested Development. If you want double Seth MacFarlane after The Simpsons, then fine, but what about 9:30/8:30 ct? What about weak spots on Thursday and Friday? Hell, put Arrested on Thursday opposite CSI and Apprentice if you want, but just keep it on SOMEWHERE. Unless it's the lowest rated show on the net, why does it go? Reality shows are, by and large, cheaper to produce, so lower ratings don't necessarily mean lower profitability, but add in DVD sales for your home video division and the positive press that comes from critics (not to mention keeping Tim Goodman from taking out a hit on Gail Berman) and shows like Arrested net you far more than simple ad dollars.

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#13 Posted on 10.2.05 1940.47
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I've watched four or five episodes and have laughed. Though I admire the cleverness and weirdness, I still don't quite have a grasp on who is who and who is related to who (whom?) Is Jeffrey Tambor playing two characters or one character pretending to be someone else? If I can't get it, I'm not sure if the average casual viewer can. I hope it sticks around though. I think I'll try and get the Season 1 DVD and catch up.
I think a cameo appearance by the hip-hop group Arrested Development would be funny, if they weren't too mad about the name and were actually still a group.
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#14 Posted on 10.2.05 2015.47
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Jeffrey Tambor is playing two different characters. He is Michael, Gob, and Buster's dad and also plays his twin brother. I guess it would be hard to figure that out if you just jumped in now, but usually the narrator does a good job of explaining past storylines so that new people can understand what is going on.
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#15 Posted on 10.2.05 2201.47
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Funny you should mention Tim G. Knowing him to be a genuine ADvocate, I e-mailed him yesterday asking if there was still reason for hope, and he said

    Originally posted by Tim Goodman
    There's hope. But my trust level is low. No matter what Fox says, and they are spinning this as a positive, cutting a season order is a bad thing. They are apparently creating better fitting shows around it for next season. But come on, who can trust that.
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#16 Posted on 12.2.05 0142.52
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Not to help the wounds or anything, but in syndie world, if a show stops production before the season's over (and it's not that the full year is done)... that's a bad sign.

I'm in agreement with Peter, though; I wish the good shows would at least garner a bit more trust with the execs. Seinfeld's stride wasn't overnight. Look at House -- it's getting the AI rub, and it gets a great sampling... shouldn't AD get the same?

It is sad, though, that this is the network that canned Mickey Rooney's can on TV, but drek like "Who's Your Daddy?" gets promoed to high hell.
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#17 Posted on 12.2.05 0232.47
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From USAToday.com and Zap2It:

FOX's February 6th ratings:
SuperBowl XXXIX: 41.1
SuperBowl Post-Game: 25.5
The Simpsons: 13.0
American Dad: 8.8

And, for comparison's sake...previous Sundays in the 8pm-9pm timeslot [Neilsen ratings points included and rank among the networks and who they trailed behind]
1/30: Simpsons (5.7), Arrested Development (4.1) [3rd]
1/23: Simpsons (4.8), Arrested Development (3.4) [4th]
1/16: Simpsons (4.9), Arrested Development (3.4) [4th]
1/9: 24 premiere (9.0)
1/2: Movie (N/A)

More or less, Cold Case (on CBS) & Extreme Makeover Home Edition are KILLING Fox at the 8pm/9pm timeslot. Cold Case is doing 10s and EM is doing 9s, and NBC's American Dreams is doing better than FOX's offerings, too, although I can't find numbers to substantiate that.

The Simpsons got a HUGE ratings spike from the SuperBowl, but odds are it'll return to the 5.0 area this week and American Dad might end up doing Arrested-esque numbers anyways. Arrested is shedding about 30% of the Simpsons' audience. The preview of American Dad shed 33%, albeit with HUGE buzz and promotion beforehand...and a much later starting time than usual due to the SuperBowl.
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#18 Posted on 12.2.05 0324.46
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There is a new ep tomorrow, yay, but then it's taking a, um, two week vacation. The 2/20 episode is bumped to 3/6 as part of an HOUR LONG ARRESTED featuring the return of one of our old friends. 2/27 was already planned to be a giveup night with no original programming against the Oscars.
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#19 Posted on 12.2.05 2244.43
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    Originally posted by Freeway420
    From USAToday.com and Zap2It:

    FOX's February 6th ratings:
    SuperBowl XXXIX: 41.1
    SuperBowl Post-Game: 25.5
    The Simpsons: 13.0
    American Dad: 8.8

    And, for comparison's sake...previous Sundays in the 8pm-9pm timeslot [Neilsen ratings points included and rank among the networks and who they trailed behind]
    1/30: Simpsons (5.7), Arrested Development (4.1) [3rd]
    1/23: Simpsons (4.8), Arrested Development (3.4) [4th]
    1/16: Simpsons (4.9), Arrested Development (3.4) [4th]
    1/9: 24 premiere (9.0)
    1/2: Movie (N/A)

    More or less, Cold Case (on CBS) & Extreme Makeover Home Edition are KILLING Fox at the 8pm/9pm timeslot. Cold Case is doing 10s and EM is doing 9s, and NBC's American Dreams is doing better than FOX's offerings, too, although I can't find numbers to substantiate that.

    The Simpsons got a HUGE ratings spike from the SuperBowl, but odds are it'll return to the 5.0 area this week and American Dad might end up doing Arrested-esque numbers anyways. Arrested is shedding about 30% of the Simpsons' audience. The preview of American Dad shed 33%, albeit with HUGE buzz and promotion beforehand...and a much later starting time than usual due to the SuperBowl.






I'd give them a mulligan on the 1/23 episode, as that was head to head with the AFC Championship Game on CBS, so anything would get murdered up against it. Personally, I like Arrested, but I think the sign that it was going to get put out to pasture was when FOX didn't use it as a post-Super Bowl show in order to potentially draw in new viewers, instead going with American Dad, which won't be on the air for 3 months, thus getting no sustainable momentum from its post-Super Bowl time slot.
If the budget is right, maybe it goes to FX and they begin an HBO'esque rotation of Nip/Tuck, Arrested, Rescue Me and The Shield.

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