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#1 Posted on 5.2.05 0140.32
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Anybody who's watched RAW on TSN or Smackdown on The Score over the past two months or so have undoubtedly noticed the Public Service Announcements done by Intercontinental Champion Shelton Benjamin and Diva Search winner Christy Hemme, reminding everyone to NOT SMOKE. On top of that, the national feeds for TSN & The Score come from Toronto, so us Westerners have to sit through the god-awfully annoying Ontario Government anti-smoking propaganda AND the federal government's own anti-smoking commercials.

I get it. They don't want us smoking. LEAVE US ALONE. Anyone else want to vent?
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#2 Posted on 5.2.05 0454.27
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I'll rant

Do you get TRUTH.com commercials in Canada? If that's a no, consider yourselves lucky to have Shelton. If you haven't seen them, it's a bunch of dread locked and haggard looking college kids running around pulling Micheal Mooreesque shenanigans on Big Tobacco and the general public, reminding us all, that smoking is linked to everything from heart disease to nuclear holocaust. I'm sure it funded by the government, but hey, they need the youth healthy to go die in the middle east no?

On the smoking front, my favorite is the PSA where they say smoking is the leading cause of house fires in the U.S., all the while having a camera slowly traverse through a remnants of a once happy household.

http://www.usfa.fema.gov/statistics/national/residential/loss_fire.shtm



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#3 Posted on 5.2.05 0742.17
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I have no problem with them. In addition to the spots from Shelton and Christy, there are commercials for stupid.ca featuring a girl rubbing herself in dogshit in a park and talking about what's stupider-that or smoking. It's certainly attention-grabbing.

My guess is that stupid.ca is the Canadian equivalent of thetruth.com (whose commercials we also get), and if you dig a little deeper, the money for these ads are actually from big tobacco.

Freeway420, from your age, I'm going to guess you don't recall the Canadian "Break Free" campaign from the late 80s/early 90s, which featured a poster of Luba coming to life and singing and dancing the "break free" song with startled teens who choose to dance with Luba rather than smoke. (Please don't ask "Who's Luba?")

I'm behind any efforts to curb smoking, so I ain't complaining.
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#4 Posted on 5.2.05 1112.36
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Well that's just great. I'd forgotten about those 'break free' ads for about 15 years, and now I have the song stuck in my head. Stupid Goon.

My problem with these ads is not that they are annoying, but rather that they cost a hell of a lot of taxpayer money. If you want to stop people from smoking tax them out of the market, and if that isn't going to stop them from lighting up then, well, neither are these commercials. There are any number of ways this money could be better spent.

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#5 Posted on 5.2.05 1124.55
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Sorry, man. Not only was the song annoying, but what about that weird interpretive dance she did?

From Health Canada's "Social Marketing in Health Promotion" website:

"Break Free" (1985)

In 1985 Health Canada launched the successor to Generation. Objectives were to persuade young people 12 to 17 to maintain non-smoking attitude/ behaviour as they pass from childhood to adolescence; to position non-smoking as the normal and smoking as the abnormal activity and to establish that non-smoking is the socially acceptable behaviour and to influence group pressure. The Break Free campaign used TV, radio, bus and transit shelter posters, magazine ads, targeted publications, special promotions and activities, such as poster and lyric-writing contests. The campaign featured popular entertainers (singer Luba and Candi) and sports heroes as role models for young people, and equated not smoking with such qualities as charisma, stardom, leadership, and having a positive self-concept.
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#6 Posted on 5.2.05 1140.51
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I'm not a smoker, and I don't like cigarette smoke...but I totally agree with the sentiment expressed here.

If someone doesn't know that smoking's bad for them by now, they need to get out from under the rock they've been hiding. It's bad enough that 75 freaking percent of a pack of cigarettes is dedicated to showing a cancerous lung, or what have you.

So, guess what? Smoking kills. Smoking is bad. I don't need that to be nailed down my throat every time I watch pro wrestling.

Those who smoke often don't have much a choice in the manner. No, they're not forced to smoke, but it would probably feel like it, as I would imagine some addictions do. Now, some people struggling with that may be disgusted with what they see, but myself, I'm disgusted that the GOVERNMENT, who makes a great sum off of tobacco taxes and tariffs, would resort to this kind of advertisement.

It's bad enough that it's illegal to smoke in public establishments in Ontario...like restaurants, bars, bowling alleys, and such...but to be confronted with this AT HOME? That's just wrong.

Whew. Pretty good for a non-smoker, huh? :-D
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#7 Posted on 5.2.05 1226.08
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    Originally posted by SOK
    It's bad enough that it's illegal to smoke in public establishments in Ontario...like restaurants, bars, bowling alleys, and such...but to be confronted with this AT HOME? That's just wrong.


I'm also a non-smoker, and I agree that it sucks that it's illegal to smoke in restaurants and bars. I hate the smell of cigarette smoke as much as the next guy, but it used to be that I knew I'd have to put up with it if I wanted to go bowling. That was just part of the deal. I say if you own a restaurant and want to let people smoke, they should be allowed to smoke as much as they want.

Having said that, smoking outside in public needs to be outlawed immediately. I can make the decision of whether I want to go to the smoky bar that is someone else's private property, but I should be allowed to walk down the sidewalk without getting smoke blown in my face. Some people are so hysterical about smoking that logic just takes a holiday, and it's frustrating.
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#8 Posted on 5.2.05 1426.22
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I was surprised to see those huge labels on canadian tobacco products. You guys don't mess around!
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#9 Posted on 5.2.05 1500.41
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No, we don't.

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#10 Posted on 5.2.05 1517.03
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Holy shit! Is THAT an actual pack of cancer sticks up there?

Why do we only have the little, tine, small print ad warnings on the side of the packs here where no one ever looks?
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#11 Posted on 5.2.05 1646.00
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    Originally posted by Cerebus
    Why do we only have the little, tine, small print ad warnings on the side of the packs here where no one ever looks?


Because anything more might actually have an impact.
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#12 Posted on 5.2.05 1842.00
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    Originally posted by TheBucsFan
      Originally posted by Cerebus
      Why do we only have the little, tine, small print ad warnings on the side of the packs here where no one ever looks?


    Because anything more might actually have an impact.


Yep.That was a TAME pack of Canuck cancer sticks, Most of them haver screwed up lungs, detroyed lips and other ugliness. Cagarette pack holders are big in your Canadian lands.
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#13 Posted on 5.2.05 1940.49
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Here's one mroe I could find:

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I think they're a pretty effective scare tactic for a lot of kids that are on the fence about smoking. A lot more so then Christy Hemme telling you that you're stupid if you smoke.
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#14 Posted on 5.2.05 2155.42
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"You could have cigarettes that came in a black pack... with a skull and crossbones on the front... called TUMORS... and people would still be lined up around the block, going, 'I can't wait to get my hands on these fucking things. I bet you get a tumor as soon as you light up. *puffpuffpuff*'" -- Denis Leary
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#15 Posted on 5.2.05 2221.41
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For the curious, I did a running recap on one of the Image Comics board of the January 24th RAW.

My findings (in the field of anti-smoking propaganda):
-5 Anti-Smoking ads, all funded (in whole or in part) by our friends in the federal government.

I LOVE how they're trying to get people to stop smoking. It's a great idea...but the fact that they're continually getting huge sums of money from tobacco sales (all the while continually jacking up the price of cigarettes via tax hikes) while telling smokers they're stupid seems fairly absurd.

EDIT FOR BELOW: And I'm Canadian, so thankfully any and all diseases caused in whole or in part by cigarettes get treatment paid for by our taxes.

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#16 Posted on 6.2.05 2200.17
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Tell you what, when smokers want to start footing the entire bill taxpayers must pay for smoking related diseases, then come to me and say its none of our business what smokers do.

Advocate a bill that all smoking related diseases are paid for by a tax on cigerrates and I'll feel sorry for smokers. Until then, I'm going to fully enjoy going to see concerts without feeling like my lungs are being killed very quickly by the oppressive cloud of cigerrate smoke.
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#17 Posted on 7.2.05 0932.41
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Tell you what, when smokers want to start footing the entire bill taxpayers must pay for smoking related diseases, then come to me and say its none of our business what smokers do.

Maybe it's just the contrarian in me, so take it with a grain of salt, but I think you could make the argument that a smoker actually costs the government less money over their lifetime than a nonsmoker.

On the whole, the smoker will die sooner and will usually die from some severe disease (oftentimes the first serious disease that hits them--whether it's cancer, emphysema, whatever). So, for the vast majority of their adult life, they are paying taxes and their marginal cost to the government would be the medical costs associated with that one big disease. On the other hand, the nonsmoker will live longer, which will have a couple of effects. First, they collect more social security (or whatever the equivalent in other countries), which costs the government more. Second, they have higher medical costs over their lifetime because they have normal age related sicknesses and hospital stays (not to mention the other health problems that occur as the body ages rapidly).

It's kind of macabre to think about, but if the government truly wanted to minimize their costs, they might actually encourage smoking. Maybe they should make nonsmokers foot the bill for all those costs associated with longer life. Just playing devil's advocate...
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#18 Posted on 7.2.05 1051.13
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Corajudo -- The dead smokers family will collect survivor's benefits, so it is all a wash in the end.
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